Esau Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 As word filtered back through the line, many passengers dumped their stash in the terminals trash cans and toilets. One passenger even abandoned drug-laced brownies. They all presumably made it aboard. "Jam Cruise 3" Lands Twelve in jail before ship ever leaves the dock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secondtube Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 35-year-old Steven M. Beatty,(Misdemeanor) of Portland Oregon, listed as the manager of STS 9 & KDTU Music Bands (booked to play aboard "Jam Cruise 3") was arrested for hiding a little more than ten grams of pot and a glass pipe in his crotch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secondtube Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 She was busted with TWO GRAMS of pot. fu©k THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 Well.. fu©k their drug policies and government, but fu©k the USA? Come on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secondtube Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 its a blanket statement... but yes, especially their drug policies and government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PalacePrincess Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 while i do think it is ridiculous that possession of 2 grams of pot is in any way, shape or form illegal, i have NO sympathy for these people. i mean, come on... it's not like the states having a huge war on drugs is exactly new & breaking information. and trying to pull something over on u.s. customs officials, ESPECIALLY in the state of florida (you can get the freakin' death penalty for acid there), is absolutely moronic.it's one thing to 'accidentally' have a little something in your car or on your person when driving/bussing/walking over the canada/us border (which is still a stupid risk -- hell, at 17 i was detained at the border and almost arrested for having a freakin' STEM in my backback i didn't even realize was there), but it's another thing entirely to be going onto a commercial cruise ship -- ESPECIALLY from florida. gad, if the idea of not bringing drugs to a show is THAT unfathomable, then bring some extra money & save the smuggling for people smart enough not to shove sh!t in their pants. stoooooopid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secondtube Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 i've been reading....Jam Cruise 1 and 2 had no searching... guess there isn't anything else these days that those border guards have to worry about. sorry, i have empathy for those who get arrested for having two grams of pot on them. guess everyones different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boogieknight Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 stupid or not getting arrested sucks and is always sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple foot Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 its pretty simple hippies. trying to bring illegal narcotics through customs = illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodRev Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 She was busted with TWO GRAMS of pot. That's pretty unfortunate, at least in her case it was absolutely clear that it was for personal use and not for distribution. I think (as I'm sure many of you do) that it is absurd to put people in jail and waste government money feeding, clothing and sheltering them for possessing a little weed. BUT as we all know, marijuana possession continues to be illegal both in Canada and in the States. In a situation like this, either you leave your dope at home or you go the full-on civil disobedience route, defiantly breaking the law and suffer the consequences proudly as a way to have the law changed. Something tells me these twelve weren't exactly aiming for the civil disobedience route, but that's what they got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamH Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 The part that gets me isn't that they were busted, it's that more than likely they were searched illegally. Watch an episode of cops and count the number of illegal searches that begin with phrases like "You don't mind if we take a look in your purse do you?" or "You're not hiding anything in your car right? Mind if we take a look?" I have no doubt that in Pig school they teach you to use suggestive lines like that to skirt around a lack of a search warrant. If any of these folks had put stuff on their person, and were lining up to get on the ship in a sober state of mind, I can't imagine any legality in patting them down except for weapons. The crotch is where it's at. And if you know your rights you can hold the whole damn ship up while customs decides whether to actually get that search warrant they need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secondtube Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 i *think* the drug sniffing dog set them off, allowing for the search and seizure.I just can't think of anything else that dog could have been sniffing for....Not that the Americans should be worried about their borders or anything...I bet the homeland security knows they are that much safer with those 12 arrested.But you gotta love the Dentist with all the pills....I wonder if he huffed his Nitrous during Lunch Break, lol. :: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PalacePrincess Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 they may very well have not had any searching at all on the first 2 jamcruises, but weren't those on a private charter? i.e. it is simple common sense to think hey, maybe carnival cruise lines will have a bit more security than a big boat rented by some hippies. or hey, we're going through customs, onto a carnival cruiseline ship, and leaving through florida, gee, maybe i'll leave my coke and e and pot and heroin at home? if the girl who got arrested for 2 grams & a pipe was minding her own business, walking down the street in her own town when nabbed, then yeah, i'd feel sorry for her. but trying to bring stuff across with the circumstances she was, especially in a post 9-11 world of massive customs security (not to mention, when due to the nature of the event, there'd be a high chance other people would be trying to bring worse stuff across, which would leave no opportunity whatsoever for an "okay, i'll just take this away from you, but go ahead onto the ship" reaction from officials if she did get caught), then i'm sorry, but sucks to be you. use your head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boogieknight Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 but sucks to be you. use your head easy to say looking from the outside but if you've ever had someone you know arrested for any reason it sucks and they always deserve compasssion and support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcO Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 Don;t you people realize that Jennifer Aniston and Brad Pitt split up? And you want to talk about drug laws and civil liberties?!? Get your priorities straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamH Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 PP I do agree with you - and Tube I must be a pothead because I hadn't thought of the dogs. easy to say looking from the outside but if you've ever had someone you know arrested for any reason it sucks and they always deserve compasssion and support. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcO Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 [color:"purple"] "I feel terrible about my pal. He was just trying to pass through US customs with illegal drugs on his person, and they actually arrested him! Those bastards! Poor guy never saw it coming. I mean, really, who gets arrested for drug possession at a US customs searchpoint? What is this world coming to? Let's invade Peru." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave-O Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 I was thinking of bringing some heroin on my Disney Cruise with my family. Anyone have any suggestions on how to hide it? The crotch perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boogieknight Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 PP I do agree with you - and Tube I must be a pothead because I hadn't thought of the dogs. easy to say looking from the outside but if you've ever had someone you know arrested for any reason it sucks and they always deserve compasssion and support. Why? because that's what people who have compassion do and when you care about people you always try to help them anyway you can, both with the ups and the downs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhishyK Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 its pretty simple hippies. trying to bring illegal narcotics through customs = illegal. Yeah, no kidding. Any fool that tried to take drugs thru US customs deserves to get busted. These people are stupid! Stupid I tells ya! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boogieknight Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 nobody deserves to get busted. This same thing could easily happen at a come together or evolve. would people deserve to get busted then? people are just trying to do what they like to have a good time. yes there is always a risk when you particpate in something that has been deemed illegal by governments but that doesn't mean that they DESERVE to be arrested. Don't you see the danger in this logic? Anytime you take, or buy or particpate in taking illegal drugs you run the risk of being arrested and so does the person you sold/gave them to you, which chances is are is someone you know or care about. would you deserve it? or do only people you don't know deserve to be arrested? This isn't a personal attack on anyone but really when something you like to do and really have right to do is deemed iilegal by a government it sucks and when your freedom is taken away because of it is just wrong and nobody deserves that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcO Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWB Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 Did someone say BLOW???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 i dunno, i'm with everyone else, and i say "if you do the crime, you do the time" i have been arrrested sexreal times and even in jail before, and every time i was satting there in hand cuffs or locked in a cell i was the only person i could blame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamH Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 A couple of tings from boogie's rant stand out: nobody deserves to get busted. This same thing could easily happen at a come together or evolve. would people deserve to get busted then? people are just trying to do what they like to have a good time So would you apply that logic to pedophiles who enjoy touching children becuase, hey, they're just trying to do what they like to have a good time? Of course not, but that's because you think the drug laws are unjust and unclear and exact an unfair punishment. So your reaction is to lament the current laws that govern your particular pleassure. Well, there's whole lot of horny priests who are thinking and doing the same thing for something that they and their brethren enjoy. yes there is always a risk when you participate in something that has been deemed illegal by governments but that doesn't mean that they DESERVE to be arrested. Don't you see the danger in this logic? No, no I don't. I've broken the law many many times and haven't been caught yet. I think drug laws are unjust but if I get caught smuggling drugs onto a cruise line...I deserve to be arrested. when something you like to do and really have right to do is deemed iilegal by a government it sucks and when your freedom is taken away because of it is just wrong and nobody deserves that Again, insert Pedophilia and this entire foolish argument falls apart. Tell me that drug laws suck, and I'll leave it alone. Don't tell me this is just about personal rights because for fu©k's sake, I don't want my gun-toting neighbour to be given the right to take aim at the family dog because it's something he happens to enjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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