StoneMtn Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 [color:blue]The Prosecution of George W. Bush for torture: an updateMonday, August 22, 2005A Pre-Hearing Conference of the Application to review the December 6/04 decision blocking criminal charges against George Bush is scheduled for 10:00 am, Thursday, August 25th, 2005, at B.C. Supreme Court, 800 Smithe Street, Vancouver, B.C.The Attorney General wants to seal the courtroom at the pre-hearing conference.LAW says Canadians have the right to be there.On November 30 2004 Gail Davidson, co-chair of Lawyers against the War (LAW), filed an Information in the Provincial Court of B.C. charging George W. Bush as President of the United States and Commander-in-Chief of the U.S. Armed Forces with torture.When Davidson went to court on December 6th to secure a date for a process hearing, the Attorney General applied to declare the information a nullity on the grounds that, as head of state, Mr. Bush was immune from prosecution. In an extraordinary action and over the objections of the reporter present, the courtroom was sealed and the press and public were excluded. Behind closed doors, the charges against Bush were stopped before any evidence could be heard. An application for review of that decision was filed in the Supreme Court of B.C. The pre-hearing conference on Thursday is to determine a schedule for the exchange of arguments and authorities and to set a date for the review itself. The Attorney General wants to prevent the public and the press from attending this pre-hearing conference. Many individuals and organizations around the world allege that George Bush has used his position as President of the United States and Commander-in-Chief of the U.S. Armed Forces to carry out torture that has included among its victims at least one Canadian (a minor) and many, perhaps thousands, of other non-Americans. These allegations and the evidence supporting them are widely available. LAW wants to present this evidence in court.The Attorney General says that George Bush, as the President of the United States and a sitting head of state, is immune from prosecution. LAW insists that diplomatic immunity is irrelevant to this case of torture. Canadian jurisdiction to prosecute Mr. Bush was triggered when he came to Canada on November 30, 2004 and when a Canadian citizen became the victim of torture under Mr. Bush command. The law is very clear on torture and LAW simply wants the law to be applied. Under international and domestic law, Canadians have a responsibility to prevent torture and to prosecute those who commit torture. LAW wants the hearing to be public so that Canadians can see justice being done. Information note on the crime of torture:Torture is a unique international crime. Torture can only be committed by or through state officials. It is a crime universally condemned by Canada and other nations as one of the most egregious violations of both international human right law and international humanitarian law. Torture is a war crime and a crime against humanity. The prohibition against torture is absolute – torture cannot be justified by any circumstances. No nation holds torture to be legal. The right to freedom from torture is universal and non-derogable—it cannot be displaced even temporarily. Criminal law prohibits the torture of anyone. International law says Canada owes a duty to the whole world to prosecute Mr. Bush for torture. Canada has a duty to act effectively to prevent further torture of the people in Abu Ghraib and Guantánamo Bay and to deter other states from using torture. For further information, contactGail Davidson, Tel: 604 738 0338; Fax: 604 736 1175, Email: law@portal.caLAW is an international group of jurists and others based in Canada with members in 14 countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timouse Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 wow. good luck to them...in the abstract, the case makes total sense, and dammit, leaving guys in 4 X 4 X 4 cage enclosures in the cuban sun isn't right....nor are any of the shadier ocurrences of torture linked to the war on (using??) terror. having said all that, the chances of getting him to answer to his crimes are pretty slim. thanks for the good read as always, stone mtn...i liked to old avatar better. i have an instinctive sort of clenching reaction when i see police logos. as a group they need to re-brand themselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneMtn Posted August 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 Y'know Tim, I think I agree with you.The potential humour of the Stone Mountain Police Force logo (which did strke me as funny when I first saw it) is somewhat overshadowed by the accompanying ill-thoughts of Georgia State Troopers.I think I'll change that again tonight when I get home... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timouse Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 no pressure, i mean the stone mountain thing is a pretty good gag...but there is the, ummm..brand recognition factor to think about so what do you think the chances of bush getting charged with war crimes actually is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 so what do you think the chances of bush getting charged with war crimes actually is?About the same chances I have of getting laid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneMtn Posted August 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 I think there is slim to no chance, but I still applaud Gail Davidson's efforts, and will promote the idea whenever possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Evil_Mouse Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 SM, that's one decidedly cool avatar. Considering that the US' de facto adoption of torture carries on in such an open way, it's certainly good to keep reminding people that it's still unusual and wrong. I'd like to hope something would help stop them pushing the envelope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timouse Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 SM, that's one decidedly cool avatar. Considering that the US' de facto adoption of torture carries on in such an open way, it's certainly good to keep reminding people that it's still unusual and wrong. I'd like to hope something would help stop them pushing the envelope. what he said, particularly the bit about the avatar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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