The Chameleon Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 (edited) I have seen Warren in different contexts at least 20 times. I think he is certainly a quality player who deserves respect. However I do feel that sometimes he lacks the range to venture into more free, jazz based or even funk territory. Sometimes he is just too rooted in the blues to be flexible. However when he plays the blues, he kills it. And his slide playing is killer. Never forget that! Edited October 3, 2005 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deranger Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 why do you have to see a musician live before you can make a judgment?I agree wholeheartedly with that comment. If something isn't pleasing to the ears on a recording why should you go see the group live just to confirm the fact that you don't like there musical abilities? Makes no sense.ok, but does that mean that there's no difference between live music and recorded music? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backbacon Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 I'm the only Red House Painters fan on the board ... Incorrect! As for Warren... Not too into bluesy stuff. I think he tired's up ABB and Phil's band with his bluesy playing. I'd rather a more aggressive/ psychadelic style with either of these bands, although to a greater extent with Phil. Govt Mule - seen them four times or so... enjoyable enough but a little too rocky and bluesy for my maximum enjoyment. I appreciate what he does and do get into his guitar work when seeing him live... I'd say I'm never very excited to listen to Warren though. I saw him five times in two days a few years back: Deer Creek: Govt Mule> Phil> ABB Pine Knob: ABB> Phil. That was a bit much in the Warren dept. Seeing ABB in London in August sans Warren - awesome! Finally, an energy packed abb show! NO sleepy Warren blues ballads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hux Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 The best way I can describe what Warren brings to the Grateful Dead universe is:When Kimock is in The Other Ones we get tunes like "A Love Supreme" and "Milestones" (Coltrane, Miles)When Warren is in The Dead we get "Nothing Else Matters" by Metallica.Speaks volumes IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms.Huxtable Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 I think he is certainly a quality player who deserves respect. However I do feel that sometimes he lacks the range to venture into more free, jazz based or even funk territory. Sometimes he is just too rooted in the blues to be flexible.However when he plays the blues, he kills it. And his slide playing is killer. Never forget that! I agree with you 100%. I dig Warren for what he is. Nevermind what he isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peipunk Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 I dig Warren for what he is. Nevermind what he isn't.That's pretty sound advice. And I think that he's so good at what he does(blues based rock), and such a good guy, that people invite him to play with them all the time out of respect. And he never says no.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hux Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 And he never says no.... $$$$$$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peipunk Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 $$$$ for the sit-ins?? No way..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booche Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 (edited) When Kimock is in The Other Ones we get tunes like "A Love Supreme" and "Milestones" (Coltrane, Miles)When Warren is in The Dead we get "Nothing Else Matters" by Metallica.Speaks volumes IMO. For what its worth, you are a very poor fact-checker with what you are trying to imply, speaks volumes IMHO. You should probably just be quiet because the last set that The Warren Hayne's Other Ones played included Milestones. Not to mention the $$$$$$$$ comment. That is pure idiocy. Edited October 3, 2005 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hux Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 He gets paid for touring with all the bands he pops up in, I didn't mean sit-ins.He brought Metallica into the GD universe. That is like putting Yosemite Sam stickers on a vintage Rolls Royce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chameleon Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 (edited) He brought Metallica into the GD universe. That is true and it certainly pains me. Not to menton the whole Gov't Mule "Driving Rain" fiasco with James Hetfield. This caused legions of ignorant 97.7FM listeners to flood Warren shows and bitch like crazy when he didn't play that tune. Edited October 3, 2005 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booche Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 He brought Metallica into the GD universe.I think its great! I would take a Metallica song any day over another overplayed El Pasopissbreak. [color:purple]Oh, that's right. No one pisses during a Bobby number............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hux Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 ...how many times do I have to tell you, I could hear it from the urinal and the acoustics in there were breathtaking!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamH Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 He brought Metallica into the GD universe.I think its great! I would take a Metallica song any day over another overplayed El Pasopissbreak. [color:purple]Oh' date=' that's right. No one pisses during a Bobby number............[/color']Actually I'd take El Paso before I'd take a metallica cover by just about anyone, especially Warren Haynes a.k.a Danny Devito as the Penguin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hux Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 Actually I'd take El Paso before I'd take a metallica cover by just about anyone, especially Warren Haynes a.k.a Danny Devito as the Penguin. Wow, you REALLY hate Wh eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcO Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 I'm with the Polkaroo.There were enough reasons not to take the post-Garcia "Dead" formations seriously - hearing a Metallica cover was just the icing on the acid-laced cake. Wake me when you give a shit about your music again.Oh goodie, they're doing "Shine On You Crazy Diamond". Just what I always hoped the Dead would do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timouse Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 no, I think he is a fine player. He's just not for me, and it can be frustrating because he seems to pop up everywheren.Just this morning I opened my closet and he said "hey man, wear this" and then took a solo. It gets tiresome.so what clothes did he pick out for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooly Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 so this ones for me eh? but i already knew you thought warren sucks...i think warren rocks, i have lots of good mule shows, saw him with phil&frnds, and abb, havent caught the mule yet, watched rising low, and that mule shows from new orleans, he is a killer guitar player, sick slide player, i love what he does, i agree with all the good stuff said about him in this thread, and a big YAY from me.the metallica comment is lame, by the way. but i guess it is warranted as warren did a tune with that guy from metallica.bottom line is warren rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcO Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 two pairs of pants.I swear the guy is too busy to focus sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooly Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 that post is GOLDEN marco i fucking howled when i read thatJust this morning I opened my closet and he said "hey man, wear this" and then took a solo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timouse Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 two pairs of pants.I swear the guy is too busy to focus sometimes. heheheheeee...now my coworkers are looking at me funny because i'm sitting in front of my computer giggling to myself course it could be worse, i could be walking around wearing 2 pairs of pants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peipunk Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 I wouldn't think that Warren would force a suggestion of his down everybody's throat...he's a hired guitar player, fer Christ's sakes, I'm sure anyone in the band could have vetoed it....blame the band, not WH. This is kinda ridiculous, like we needed another issue to demonstrate the complex theory of "different strokes fer different folks".... Hope you don't sweat your balls off, MarcO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gentlemonkey Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 nay! I know he's talented, and I respect him. But I have no interest in his music at this point in my life.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayr Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 I'm just curious from everybody that is dissing Warren Haynes (Vai & Satriani too) about who they consider in music right now as a superior guitar player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimoe Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 However I do feel that sometimes he lacks the range to venture into more free, jazz based or even funk territory. Sometimes he is just too rooted in the blues to be flexible. That's exactly one of the best qualities of Warren. He is rooted in the inflexible blues genre, yet he uses what musical background he has and ventures into uncommon territory. I love hearing blues guys like Warren putting their own stamp on jazz and funk - and there isn't many doing it. And why not do it? Rock guys have been ripping off jazz and blues for decades to varying degrees of respect and success. And at least Warren has established his own " sound "... like it or not. Most jazz snobs wouldn't know James Carter from Josua Redmond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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