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Respect for Tradition

Myron Thompson: “I want the whole world to know that I do not condone homosexuals. I do not condone their activity. I do not like what they do. I think it is wrong. I think it is unnatural and I think it is totally immoral. I will object to it forever they attack the good traditional Canadian family unit that built the country.†(Hansard, June 15, 1995)

David Sweet: “men are natural influencers, whether we like it or not. … Its because Jesus knew women would naturally follow. Men, on the other hand, had to be called. (Christian Week November 27 2001)

Garry Breitkreuz: "In the 1950s, buggery was a criminal offence, now it’s a requirement to receive benefits from the federal government.†(The Leader-Post, March 3, 2000)

Darrell Reid: “The liberalization of divorce laws was the biggest disaster to hit Canada, short of common-law marriage†(http://www.mesacanada.com/news12.htm

Free Market Economics

Paul Forseth: "Old age security is welfare for the aged." [Vancouver Sun, October 6, 1993]

Gary Breitkreuz: Using research done by a right wing Fraser Institute economist, Breitkreuz urged the provincial government of Saskatchewan to eliminate its minimum wage. People should be given the "freedom of choice". [The Potashville Miner’ Journal, Feb. 28, 1996]

Peter Goldring: “I have strong concerns that we're building [homeless] shelters on a grander and grander scale.†(Calgary Herald, March 6, 2002

Derek Zeisman: “I would advocate the elimination of all corporate and business taxes at the federal level.†http://www.publiceyeonline.com/archives/2005_12.html

National Pride (Standing up for Canada)

Stephen Harper: “Any country with Canada’s insecure smugness and resentment can be dangerous.â€

National Post December 8 2000/ http://www.stephenharpersaid.ca/

Stephen Harper: “Canada is a Northern Welfare state in the worst sense of the term, and very proud of it.â€

http://www.cbc.ca/canadavotes/leadersparties/harper_speech.html

Stephen Harper: “I delivered [speeches] everywhere I went … about the spirit of defeatism in the countryâ€

National Post, May 31 2002

Stephen Harper: “Whether Canada ends up as one national government or two national governments or several national governments, or some other kind of arrangement is, quite frankly, secondary in my opinion.

http://thetyee.ca/News/2004/05/20/So_What_DID_Harper_Say/

Strong Foreign Policy

Mark Inky: “Foreign nationals without status should not be under the protection of the Canadian charter.†(Hansard, February 26 2001)

Leon Benoit: On Paul Fromm, head of Canada First Immigration Reform Committee who proclaim on their website “made with European culture accept no substituteâ€

“The first time we met I didn’t know his background … I chatted with him a little bit, I think on the Hill here. And I met him in Toronto, and you know, some of the things he said made a lot of sense. I think he offered some good suggestions for changing the immigration system.†(National Post, June 18, 2001)

Joe Li: “It looks like we just get all the garbage (immigrants) from Ottawa.â€

(Toronto Star, February 6 2002)

Stephen Harper: “west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society.â€

http://www.stephenharpersaid.ca/

Tough on Crime

Conservative press release: “Today, [Paul] Martin says he’s against child pornography. But his voting record proves otherwise.†http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1087594937300_83004137?s_name=&no_ads=

Myron Thompson “said he favored corporal punishment for young offenders. He says that during his years as a school principal in Alberta, he saw remarkable change in behaviour among those who had ‘tasted a piece of wood.’†(Edmonton Sun, March 13, 1995)

Art Hanger: “I suspect flogging straightens up behavior by jolting a criminal into reality … Compare it to our system, which provides no deterrence and is little more than a revolving door … Is corporal punishment extreme? … I don’t think so.†(Alberta Report, April 1, 1996)

Vic Toews: – Justice Critic “…Vic Toews says he'd like to go back to the good old days of tossing people into jail for unpaid traffic fines.†A number of years ago it used to be simply (if) you didn't pay the fine you went to jail," said Toews.†(Winnipeg Sun, July 26, 1999)

Support for the Traditional Marriage

Stockwell Day: “Homosexuality is a mental disorder that can be cured through counseling†Alberta Report, February 3, 1992

Gary Caldwell: “If homosexuality is normal, must we also permit bestiality?†(La Presse, September 9, 1995)

Art Hanger: “Homosexuality, to anyone who has not been brainwashed by the last decade of effective propagandizing by the gay lobby, is unnatural. It is a repudiation of nature. Nature requires procreation. Morality must defend the continuation of humanity. Rights must protect those things that promote the continuation of our country and of our species. Homosexuality does none of those things. Homosexuality is nihilistic. It protects nothing, it defends nothing, it continues nothing, and it sustains nothing." (Hansard June 1, 1995)

Cindy Silver: “I happen to believe that homosexuality is wrong.â€

http://www.parl.gc.ca/35/2/parlbus/commbus/senate/com-e/LEGA-E/05EV-E.htm

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At least making sometimes despicable quotes and soundbites doesn't waste taxpayer money that could go to healthcare or education etc etc etc...

Plenty of Liberals have made plenty of ridiculous comments too. And plenty of ridiculous actions taboot.

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Well since most people that work on elections are not paid by their parties and definately not paid by your tax money I would not worry about it. Yes 99% of people working on campaigns are volunteers and the rest woulsd be paid by the party through donations. Actually it is illegal to be paid by tax money while working on a campaign.

I know all that... Sorry, I was referring to Gomery, the gun registry, HRDC scandal, etc...

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Somehow I don't think it is up to me. I hate the conservatives and what they value and I hope that people vote ANY way to stop them. Besides it is not over yet.

I hate the Conservatives too... I just thought from all your other posts that you were vociferously Pro-Liberal, and I get the impression you work for the Liberal Party.

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AD I honestly don't care who you vote for, and you're not insulting me personally by posting Barbados flags, if that is your intention.

The Reform/Alliance wing of the CPC has been muzzled, I was at a press conference the other day and witnessed the CP communication guy literally demanding no questions off "topic", and then shutting down the show - they are trying to keep people from speaking their minds a la the quotes above.

If there are Liberal quotes like the ones above, please back that up and let's see them.

And if those quotes are no longer relevant because they are from the 90's, then it would only be fair to disregard the sponsorship mess as well, as it occured in the late 90's as well.

Back to the shipbuilding industry, allow me to enlighten you.

International shipbuilding is exactly that, an international market with international rules.

To compete in that industry you either play by the same rules as your competitors or you lose/go out of business.

If you think the very few Canadian companies that do compete at that international level should shut down shop because of moral objections to flags of convenience, that is your view of business. In that vain, and by that moral standard there are numerous other markets and industries that you would take competitive Canadian companies out of. In addition the vast majority of Martin's old company is based in Canada and employs Canadians.

Paul Martin "the evil tax sheltering coal baron" has been used for years, and if that's the best you can come up with - I still feel pretty good about our boy.

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i wasn't trying to insult you personally with the barbados flag, i don't think that would work and generally i don't insult people... and i do understand how the business works with flags of convenience and all... but i just find it a little hypocritical of martin to dress up like captain canada and criticize harper for being a pseudo-republican while martin operated a business the way he did. of course it was all by the book and fair and legal, but the appearance of the prime minister has got to be better than that, in my ideological mind.

as for the timelines of gomery and the PC quotes, sure the sponsorship scandal happened in the 90s, but it's just coming to light now and i don't think it's been effectively resolved. i mean i don't see any reason to trust the liberals at the moment. not that i like harper any more, but the liberal party might really benefit from losing this one so they can rebuild in opposition and really hear the people again about what is best for them, and not just best for the party.

that said, i have an NDP sign in my snowbank. but after Uncle Jack's shitty and stupid debate style / answers I think I'm in a serious pickle about who to vote for. I like Paul Dewar, but I don't want Jack to mistake my vote for Dewar as a vote for the Layton leadership of the NDP.

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I'm very conflicted this election as to whether I should be voting for my MP or voting for the party as a whole.

I've never liked the idea of voting for a party as a whole because I always liked the idea that my MP was my voice in the house of commons.

As I've gotten older though I've realized two things. One, for the most part MPs just tow the party line, so even if you voice is a voice of disagreement with their party, chances are good they'll ignore your voice and vote with the party. Two, for the most part, my day to day life in my riding is not affected by who is representing me federaly, but rather who is representing me provincially and locally.

I think this election I'm going to be voting for a party as supposed to an MP (cuz don't get me started on my NDP choice in my riding.. good grief), but something about that mindset really rubs me the wrong way. Oh well.. it's only politics eh :)

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Well, consider this: you're also a resident, not just of your federal riding, but of the country as a whole. If you feel that having a certain party (irrespective of the quality of your riding's MP) is important for the country as a whole, then vote for the party with a clear(er) conscience.

Aloha,

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