Deeps Posted February 3, 2006 Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 I think I'm going to be sick.This is greed in record proportions. How to be a thief.(Link) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Evil_Mouse Posted February 3, 2006 Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 More conclusive proof that the CIA is in fact controlling the weather . But no, seriously Deeps, that is pretty fucked up. I'm feeling guilty I had to buy Esso the other day when I was out in the country and running on vapours; then again, what gas is good gas (Irving, e.g.? )? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YearsAlongTheSea Posted February 3, 2006 Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 It's all bad gas, it's all "evil" if you're going to consider yourself a concious consumer so, fuck it I say. Whatever is clever. And the CIA has dispatched some pretty crappy weather for the GTA for the next few days.Inside source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
payce-ley Posted February 3, 2006 Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 Exxon Mobile earns record $36.1 billion in 2005 - highest profit ever earned by a company, beating the previous record of $25 billion or so set in 2004 by, you guessed it... Exxon Mobile Shell's profits hit £25,000 a minute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooly Posted February 3, 2006 Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 25 thousand pounds a minute?!?!?!? holy crap im in the wrong business Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secondtube Posted February 3, 2006 Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 if you can't beat them, invest in them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c-towns Posted February 3, 2006 Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 I clean up the problems these guys create, they actually spend a shit load of money on environmental issues.but............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calamity Jane Posted February 3, 2006 Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 they actually spend a shit load of money on environmental issues.they actually spend a shitload of money on ad campaigns designed to make us think so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c-towns Posted February 3, 2006 Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 no they actually spend a lot more on environmental issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boiler Posted February 3, 2006 Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 It' cash grab time for the oil companies...They're like babies after scotch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timouse Posted February 4, 2006 Report Share Posted February 4, 2006 it's really hard to be a car owner these days. i remember hearing an interview with Utah Phillips where he said that he gave up his car after the first Gulf War, stating that he couldn't bring himself to own something that "ran on blood." it seems like all of the oil oompanies are doing unbearably nasty things in the course of daily business. from what i've gathered over the last few years... Esso/Exxon-Mobil: ignoring Kyoto, generally making obscene profits and not giving much thought to life after oil. Royal Dutch Shell: running roughshod over indigenous people, most notably in Nigeria. when Ken Saro-Wiwa, writer and native Ogoni activist, spoke out about Shell's decimation of his people, he was killed. not like shell bragged about it or anything, but Ken's family has publicized ample links between shell and mr saro-wiwa's death. shell is at it again in Nigeria, puling the same crap on another indigenous tribe. Petro-Canada: started as canada's national oil company, and meant to be a block to unfair price gouging, pc seems to be the first on the block to crank prices up at the first whiff of instability in the world oil market. add to that dealings with a number of unsavoury governments in order to keep the oil flowing... wheni buy gas, i try to find independent stations, but even then, they are buying their gas from a wholesaler, and it's likely come from one of the above companies. the only national company that doesn't seem to be truly evil is Sunoco. as a big american-based oil company, the likely truth is that they just haven't been caught yet and canada's suncor (oil sands recovery) is part of the sunoco group. suncor's claim to fame is polluting one barrel of water for every barrel of oil they extract from the tar sands. suncor is currently in negotiations to buy a conono/phillips refinery in denver, among others. *sigh* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YearsAlongTheSea Posted February 4, 2006 Report Share Posted February 4, 2006 This thread remind me of this time I was giving my roomate a ride to school (in Boulder, CO) and as I was turning onto 28th street to head west, she says "you should have taken 30th, it's so much less commercial." I almost kicked her out of the car. Walking is a lot less commercial too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boiler Posted February 4, 2006 Report Share Posted February 4, 2006 We can only hope ethanol takes off. It's still a comustion process, thus relesing all the evil into the air, but at leat we will be burning a renewable resource. My room mate uses it in his truck and has been very happy so far. Problem of course is that it's still hard to find.There's talks of an ethanol plant being built in Barrie and maybe a couple other ones. I sure hope thay shake up the oil companies. Like I said earlier though, it's cash grab time for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdy Posted February 4, 2006 Report Share Posted February 4, 2006 hmm.. there's a lot of talk about a second ethanol plant in chatham too. maybe chatham and barrie are competing. i dunno... who is to say the word "oil" won't be replaced with "ethanol" in a future thread down the road? alternatives are great as alternatives.. until they're no longer an alternative, but the source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boiler Posted February 5, 2006 Report Share Posted February 5, 2006 we definatley have to reduce our "combustion" reliance but until suitable alternatives are developed ethanol looks like it will be an attractive alternative. I'm not so sure those cities will be competing to get an ethanlol plant. I say it there will likely be a few more ethanol plants going up.The city of Toronto is planning on building something like a 540mW gas co-gen gas plant. These plants can be put into operation about 1 year after they are started. It will be a quick fix to a big problem of the so called looming energy crisis.Natural gas supplies, some predict, will only give us another 20 years (yes only 20 years) of energy production. 20 years is also about the max time frame a plant of this scope should last before major repairs would need to be done or scrapped. So this plant should last about as long as our natural gas supplies go.Gas and Oil companies know this and will grab as much of the remaining revenues there are to be had.Nuclear Energy seems to be the only alternative right now that can produce the massive energy consumption we now use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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