TheAlphaNerd Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Just finished reading this very interesting article... I don't want to explain too much about it, but I highly suggest the read, very interesting! Read Me! Perhaps it will help some of those unable to accept electronic music and hip hop of why it is art. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bouche Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 I don't need to read this to still know that Kanye West isn't an artist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Perhaps it will help some of those unable to accept electronic music and hip hop of why it is art.Fuck 'em.I started reading the article until it got all 2nd year communications class on me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 I don't need to read this to still know that Kanye West isn't an artist.The sad thing is Kanye is a way better artist than his antics imply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigger Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Just an Art I don't like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAlphaNerd Posted September 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Perhaps it will help some of those unable to accept electronic music and hip hop of why it is art.Fuck 'em.I started reading the article until it got all 2nd year communications class on me.If you got just a little bit further it gets really good I promise... starts talking about Disco! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 I tried skipping down a few paragraphs but it read like the author was trying to obfuscate would could be a straightforward discussion.As for Kanye, gotta admit I'm only really familiar with his 808's and Heartbreak disc but the production really impressed me -- I find it to be very Peter Gabriel (circa album #3) influenced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaggyBalls Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Who are you to define what an artist is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bouche Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 The sad thing is Kanye is a way better artist than his antics imply.... gotta admit I'm only really familiar with his 808's and Heartbreak disc but the production really impressed me -- I find it to be very Peter Gabriel (circa album #3) influenced.Is there any indication or evidence that shows he actually did anything other than speak into some electronics on this release? Sure, he 'sang', but that was into an auto-tune vocoder device. He couldn't even come up with that.I'd like to see why he should be considered an artist. I saw him perform on leno's new show, and I must say, walking around a stage with a mic while other people are performing, doesn't make an artist. That's pretty much the same example as any other time I've seen him.Who are you to define what an artist is?I haven't tried to define what an artist is. But here's one common definition found on google " artist, creative person (a person whose creative work shows sensitivity and imagination)"I'm defining who I believe is NOT an artist. That would be Kanye West. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayr Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Cool read. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted September 24, 2009 Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 Is there any indication or evidence that shows he actually did anything other than speak into some electronics on this release? Sure, he 'sang', but that was into an auto-tune vocoder device. He couldn't even come up with that.Lyrics, melody, sampling, arranging, producing...For someone so into production and recording techniques I don't know how you can look past those aspects in terms of artistry.Music is constantly evolving. You can't discredit something just because it doesn't use the same techniques that people used 40 years ago.Granted, there is a lot of bad hip hop and dance music out there but thank god not everyone judges rock music based on Nickelback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAlphaNerd Posted September 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 The article discusses the western musical aesthetic... our notion of good music... is derived from harmony and melody... and how electronic music goes beyond this.. experimenting with rhythm and timbre insteadAlso compares the use of glitch to the use of the record scratch... macro / micro cosm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phishtaper Posted September 24, 2009 Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 i have to admit I am very disappointed ... i thot this was going to be about the Police album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bouche Posted September 24, 2009 Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 Is there any indication or evidence that shows he actually did anything other than speak into some electronics on this release? Sure' date=' he 'sang', but that was into an auto-tune vocoder device. He couldn't even come up with that.[/quote']Lyrics, melody, sampling, arranging, producing...For someone so into production and recording techniques I don't know how you can look past those aspects in terms of artistry.Music is constantly evolving. You can't discredit something just because it doesn't use the same techniques that people used 40 years ago.Granted, there is a lot of bad hip hop and dance music out there but thank god not everyone judges rock music based on Nickelback.I just dont' see any creativity in ripping off Daft PUnk's "Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger" and putting out a thing called "stronger".Shit he made alot of money off of their creativity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esau. Posted September 24, 2009 Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 I just dont' see any creativity in ripping off Daft PUnk's "Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger" and putting out a thing called "stronger".Shit he made alot of money off of their creativity.While I don't care for kayne's music or any of that genre really - did he blatantly just steal the samples or did he have permission to use them? Simple question.Because I could list numerous musicians/bands who made a lot of money of other peoples creativity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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