secondtube Posted July 11, 2003 Report Share Posted July 11, 2003 So i just got a new computer, and when i put my plextor in it, i can't get it to burn and extract perfectly. When i burn, the buffer doesn't drop out of 100%. I believe my burns are perfect. Where lies the problem is in the eac extraction. Here is a sample of a disk i just burnt. EAC extraction logfile from 11. July 2003, 8:41 for CD Unknown Artist / Unknown Title Used drive : PLEXTOR CD-R PX-W4824A Adapter: 0 ID: 0 Read mode : Secure with C2, accurate stream, NO disable cache Combined read/write offset correction : 0 Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out : No Used output format : Internal WAV Routines 44.100 Hz; 16 Bit; Stereo Other options : Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes Delete leading and trailing silent blocks : No Installed external ASPI interface Track 1 Filename D:\tab2003-06-02.flac16\Track01.wav Peak level 76.9 % Track quality 100.0 % Copy CRC 31E81027 Copy OK Track 2 Filename D:\tab2003-06-02.flac16\Track02.wav Peak level 67.2 % Track quality 100.0 % Copy CRC 6C44249A Copy OK Track 3 Filename D:\tab2003-06-02.flac16\Track03.wav Peak level 61.5 % Track quality 100.0 % Copy CRC AA322E6F Copy OK Track 4 Filename D:\tab2003-06-02.flac16\Track04.wav Peak level 56.9 % Track quality 100.0 % Copy CRC 3FFD5E57 Copy OK Track 5 Filename D:\tab2003-06-02.flac16\Track05.wav Peak level 46.5 % Track quality 100.0 % Copy CRC 89EADBF7 Copy OK Track 6 Filename D:\tab2003-06-02.flac16\Track06.wav Peak level 62.8 % Track quality 100.0 % Copy CRC 7BDDE846 Copy OK No errors occured End of status report I know its saying no errors occured, and the track quality is 100%, what is with those Peak Level values? I dont believe my burner in my old comp did that... Anyone who can help will be hooked up w/ freebies.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottieMac Posted July 11, 2003 Report Share Posted July 11, 2003 From what I understand, you can still be making perfect copies even if the peak levels look like that. I get peak levels like that when i ripp certain CDs. Here's what you need to do. Rip a track off a store bought CD, like Lawnboy or something. then burn that track on a blank. Then rip that track off the cdr you just burned on. You should now have both the track that you originally ripped off Lawnboy and the track you ripped form the cdr on your HD. Go to Tools in EAC and compare wavs and you can compare the two to see if they are exact copies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secondtube Posted July 11, 2003 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2003 ok, i'm going to try that, but before i do, could i be burning the show incorrectly? like i said, the buffer doesn't drop, but i burnt the cd, didn't even take it out of the drive, then extracted it... but i'm going to grab a studio cd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottieMac Posted July 11, 2003 Report Share Posted July 11, 2003 Now that I think about it, it doesn't really make a difference if you use a studio cd or a show. If rip the a track of a disc and burn it to another and rip that track and copare the two, you will see if they are exact copies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottieMac Posted July 11, 2003 Report Share Posted July 11, 2003 From The Coaster Factory: Some explanation of the information displayed in the Status and Error Messages log. Peak level is the loudest peak in the extracted track. Though the example screenshot has all peak levels at 100%, the maximum volume, this is not necessary true for all CDs. Some CDs (especially older ones) are recorded a lot softer. Thus if the Peak level shows a low percentage for certain tracks, don't worry. This does not mean that Exact Audio Copy was not able to extract the tracks 100% correct!! While Peak level tells nothing about the quality of extraction, Track quality does. A Track quality of 100% obviously means that the track was extracted 100% correct. But here's where some people make mistakes; sometimes EAC rereads certain audio sectors multiple times to get accurate extraction results. For every reread EAC does, the Track quality decreases, but this does not mean that the extraction is less accurate. It is possible to have a bit-by-bit perfect copy of a track, while Track quality is lower than 100%. As long as Exact Audio Copy does not report any errors in the Status and Error Messages log, the extracted files are bit-by-bit perfect copies of the original. Track quality should be interpreted as the physical quality of the CD and not of the extracted data. A CD with some scratches or dirty fingers on will certainly cause rereads in EAC and thus a Track quality lower than 100%, but still the extracted tracks may be perfect. Thus if the log says Copy OK for a track that means it's extracted perfect - no matter of the Track quality. So, I hope that made things more clear as many people are confused by the Track quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secondtube Posted July 11, 2003 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2003 well, i did the extraction and compare test, and its coming up with this error. off the burnt cdr rip: 68 repeated samples 0:00:00.185 off the studio rip: none so i guess there is an error, but is it in the burning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottieMac Posted July 11, 2003 Report Share Posted July 11, 2003 Ok no problem. I think you just have to correct your offset. Back in a minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secondtube Posted July 11, 2003 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2003 Dude! , Your getting a freebie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottieMac Posted July 11, 2003 Report Share Posted July 11, 2003 Assuming you have no offset correction set: I think this will work, but I may make you waste one more disc. Go to "Drive Options". Click on the "Offset/Speed" tab. "Use Sample Offset Correction" should be activated I believe you want to put -68. Now you'll have to rip and burn a track again and compare the two .wavs to see if they are the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secondtube Posted July 11, 2003 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2003 about to try now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secondtube Posted July 11, 2003 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2003 well, i gave me the same error again, in the same spot. just more repeated samples.... ahhh well....software sucks....at least its burning w/ no errors.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottieMac Posted July 11, 2003 Report Share Posted July 11, 2003 If it was 136 repeated samples, thats good news. Go back to the offset correction. Change -68 to +68 and viola. Try again to make sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secondtube Posted July 11, 2003 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2003 PERFECT COPY fire me an email w/ your addy, a tooby snack will be on the way.... and for the rest, (if your reading this post), i'm offering an unlimited b&p of well, anything you want.... something from neil's latest tour? electric/acoustic (europe) maybe some phish from the feb tour? or how about some slip from bonneroo? 'course we got lots of fatties.... or maybe some keller? TAB 2003? lemme know, i'm a happy burner.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esau Posted July 11, 2003 Report Share Posted July 11, 2003 SecondTube~ I gots some more fatties shows fer you guys. Think you could make a couple copies of some shows for me?I think you have one of the shows I need an extra of. Shoot me an email with what shows I gave you guys to copy,I cant recall. ibex73@hotmail.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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