AD Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 from the globe and mail today:After the debate, Mr. Martin said he was willing to "meet [Gilles Duceppe] on every street corner, in every city and in every town and village in Quebec."Yesterday, the Bloc Leader told 1,200 supporters that he was up for the challenge."If you're ready to meet me everywhere in Quebec, Mr. Martin, be my guest. I'm in Montreal today, I'm waiting for you," Mr. Duceppe told the noisy crowd in Montreal. "Come on the North Shore to talk about softwood lumber, Paul Martin. I'm there Tuesday, I will be waiting. Come on."Does Martin actually want to debate Duceppe one-on-one in Quebec? What a dumb dumb move. It will be symbolic, but he'll go down in flames.Pay per view perhaps?AD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdy Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 duceppe is playing the literal to make martin look like an ass. he knew martin didn't imply to "meet" him on every street corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Low Roller Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 Is it just me, or is there A LOT more feces flinging action in this year's election campaigns than usual? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AD Posted December 19, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 duceppe is playing the literal to make martin look like an ass. he knew martin didn't imply to "meet" him on every street corner.well yeah, duh. but still, will Martin take the bait and debate Duceppe in Quebec after calling him out? If Martin sidesteps someone accepting his challenge, how do you think that will play? I'm loving Duceppe as a politician right now. Not for what he stands for with regard to separation, but he's very good with his words and reasoning. (Minus the gay rights / referendum thingy)AD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottieking Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 I'm loving Duceppe as a politician right now. Not for what he stands for with regard to separation, but he's very good with his words and reasoning. (Minus the gay rights / referendum thingy)ADHe's smooth, but he can afford to be. There is no downside, no consequences to his actions save for a provincal/nationalist agenda. Duceppe and the Bloc don't want the job. I want to start a party called the "I don't really want to lead the country and its citizens, I just to be able to criticize the party's that are trying to do so" When has the Bloc tabled one piece of legislation that has brought about a better way of life for Quebecois or anyone? Good speaker, yes. Beat Martin, probably. Unfair advantage, absolutely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AD Posted December 19, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 he got elected fairly and properly, and he represents a whole lotta people that share his views. he's supporting the people that elected him, we need more of that in parliament. what's the issue? we don't like democracy or something?ad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 If we had sent them packing in 1774 we would not be having these problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottieking Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 My problem with the Bloc as a national party is I can't respect anyone with such a limited platform (not just the Bloc; Marijuana, Natural Law, Christian Reform). AD, elected he may be, and I will give him the same props as you for this brilliant political move. But to what end, federally? I flirt with regionalism at times but in my heart I am a federalist. If he truly wanted his end goal, truly believed in his cause, then he would have stepped down, led the PQ, and fired up the referendum. Instead he continues this parliamentary cock-block to effective governence. I repeat, besides representing the disenfranchaisment of his province, what good does this party hold for any Canadian or really to a Quebecker? No real change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_rawk Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 I could see the Bloc working with a Conservative minority government towards decentralization and greatly empowering the provinces. Harper says he is willing to revisit the consitution and open that area back up for debate and changes -- the Bloc would probably play ball on that, too.Would be interesting, but likely a heavy blow to the federalist project. The BQ couldn't lose ... either they'd be able to extract all sorts of concessions, or the inability to do so would rally the troops for getting the PQ to oust the provincial Quebec Liberals and set the stage for the next referendum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AD Posted December 19, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 Scottie, they're all good points, and while I most of the time fail to see how on earth a guy who wants to separate from Canada is the leader of a national party, i really respect how he knows his goal, is setting about to achieve it peacefully and within the framework that he has, given the supreme court and all. It sounds like he has a ton of support, heck he came off like a rock star at the (partisan) event last night. I dunno. There's just something about his style and gall and forthrightness that is everything I want in a politician. Too bad he's playing for the wrong team. Duceppe is to Canadian politics as Hasek is to Team Canada.AD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottieking Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 I dunno. There's just something about his style and gall and forthrightness that is everything I want in a politician. Too bad he's playing for the wrong team. Duceppe is to Canadian politics as Hasek is to Team Canada.ADTo all of these things, I agree. Let's celebrate our impass with some sort of rye whiskey. New Year's perhaps? 6 year anniversary of the voyage of the Great Starship Harpua? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AD Posted December 19, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 (edited) hehe, i won't be coming to BNB but I'll definitely be in Ottawa. Some sort of rye whiskey you fancy? I reckon I like the stuff. edit. holy fack, that was six years ago??? AD Edited December 19, 2005 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guigsy Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 Duceppe is to Canadian politics as Hasek is to Team Canada.and i still cant figure why the hell we havent traded for him yet! jesus christ, c'mon gretz, get your head outta the sand! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_rawk Posted December 21, 2005 Report Share Posted December 21, 2005 Harper offering to stand in for Martin, take on Bloc in Quebec-only debate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AD Posted December 21, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2005 too bad martin couldn't follow through on his rhetoric. good on harper for 'standing in,' although he doesn't stand a chance if the debate actually happens. which i hope it doesad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveThe Owl Posted December 21, 2005 Report Share Posted December 21, 2005 Harper offering to stand in for Martin, take on Bloc in Quebec-only debate What would really impress me is if Harper challenges Duceppe to a round of Rochambeau... That would rock! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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