FunkyBeats

I think the ignoring the hellos thing is more likely because usually when a stranger says hello to you in Toronto or other large cities it's followed by can I have some change ect. (especially when they look like a dirty hippie). The best way to deal with this is to ignore and pick up the pace. It's nothing personal...

Toronto is a great city. Great music scene, wonderful restaurants and cultural diversity that allows me to constantly learn new things. I used to hate toronto too, until I moved here.

How did Fishman play?

I think it's much less the islanders and much more the owner of the docks who has publicly stated, in the Toronto Star, that if he's going down he's taking everyone else with him. (Paraphrased of course). If you want the exact words it was in the paper about two weeks ago.

Peace.

I have to defend the police who were there as human beings, they were good guys and gals who didn't enjoy having to do what they did. The problem lies with the all too apparent influence that private individuals with wealth have over the administration of both a public institution such as the Toronto Police Services and in their agenda superceding the rights of a majority.

Ya, I was answering your question with the stipulation, in plain view. I should have said "Yes, it would be a stretch to assume that there were a bunch of drugs at this gathering, in plain view that is." I can't comment on what people had on their persons for obvious reasons. The only thing here that is relevant is what powers the police have with respect to search and seizure. No probable cause, no search.

If you read more closely what I said (As in yes it would be a strech to assume), there were no drugs in plain view, no drugs. Also there was a picnic permit for the event hence the no amplified music which requires a different more complex permit.

I should add that I didn't see any drugs in plain view and I assume from the general vibe I got from the people I talked with that no one was stupid enough to do so within sight of the police. Maybe they did see something but to my knowledge no one was arrested and I think that the Sargent in charge would have mentioned that to me when I questioned his rationale for removing us from public property.

In plain view, yes. As far as alcohol there would not have been more than any other part of any public beach in Toronto, the only difference being that the individuals at this particular section of the beach refrained from drinking the alcohol they had with them due to the police presence and hence did not violate any laws in the eyes of the police.

There was no 911 call, the by-law officer was there all day and the police were there at 6:00 p.m., one officer. They then careful planned their "presentation of force" with the sole purpose of intimidation. Not even a pre-emptive strike since the beach was under constant surveillance from the beginning and absolutely no probable cause was observed by the officers present. There were families having picnics, people playing board games and hanging out at the beach. It was not a teenage keg party.It was clearly a political statement to appease certain individuals. The police who were there were all professionals and friendly and made it obvious that they saw no threat and simply had to do their jobs.

Docks vs. Island= well connected, high profile special interest groups with private interests that once again supercede public rights and privileges in a so-called democratic society.

Well, apparently, about 100 hundred hippies having a picnic on a secluded area of a public beach with no sound system, a few hand drummers and one 30 min. performance by Maracatu Nunca Antes (Brazilian drum group) warranted 5 cruisers, 4 bike cops, a by-law officer complete with truck, a patty wagon and 3 riot horses to bust at ~9:00 p.m.. Not only was this a disgusting misappropriation of public funds (think Double time and a half for all officers) who I'm sure were more needed elsewhere in the city but it raises questions about what rights we have as responsible tax paying citizens to enjoy public property. You can read more/see pictures on

http://www.tribemagazine.com/board/showthread.php?t=122054

Discuss.

I'm in for sure. Great sound at the last show, I was impressed.

Well, maybe I'm your salvation, bitch!

I'll pick up that fucking torch! The whole jamband concept still ignites my soul. It just takes time to get to know your bandmates well enough to do it well.

I second this. This will be their last tour and they will be playing "Selling England by the Pound". Unbelievably good.

Got four in orch HH and four orch row b seats 61-64. Let the games begin...

On Trey's site it says pre-sale begins on Tuesday May 16th, can anyone confirm the real on sale date?

I can already smell the grilled cheese...

Fuck'in A!

Phish's new album...

My favourite jam band still playing is UM, favourite of all time is Phish.

I have to agree with the sound comment, it was excellent! Also to note, the bass player from meat was a stand out, I thought. I also thought the fatties drummer was solid. Great night of music and dancing. Good job Jay, keep the vibe comming...

If I bump it do I get in for free?

Sounds like the year '24...

I had a great time at the show, definetly worth the money and they are now on my list of bands to see. That being said they do have some growing to do but I love to watch (hear) bands evolve as they gain experience. Also the guitar player was impressive, vocals not so much so.