MoMack

And one more thing - Is there not an argument out there that rice products are actually more detrimental to the environment then local dairy... (a la Hewitts or this guy - not the big ones)

thanks my brother... been so long since I had a problem with it' date=' forgot how to spell it! and yeah, the accompanying uncharacteristicly human-like scream/screech the cow makes when you unhook its bloody nipple (most of the time you can't tell its injured until its unhooked) is an even tougher memory to wipe... the thought of having a pulsating vacuum hooked up to your 'long john' for an hour sounds like a great idea in principle, but in practice really wouldn't be a good idea at all [/quote'] But thats part of it - this guy likely doesn't go bloody nipple style... For what its worth, I'm a chocolate milk drinker and it always made me mad that when I went to shows down south I couldn't drink the milk because you can taste all the crap. Organic milk though, no problem.

Its not just the "raw" milk factor. Its the fact that these farms, at least in some cases, are very small and depending on where they are located they can't afford to fit within the testing/inspections etc. I guess its a different issue - but on the same lines. And honestly - a guy like hte milk man there can't fuck up. If he did word woudl spread and he'd have no customers. But back to what I was getting at. Out east there are no farmers because the small farms can't afford to keep regulated so its all corp farms or nothing. Scary thought. Who's got my head e-coli brand mass produced shipped a million miles spinich?

Okay - I watched the Vid. I'm into checking it out. Columbus, Saturday February 3rd, Or Asheville Feb 8 and 9 Or Jam in the Dam (not likely) Or Detroit July 13th. Anybody?