scottieking

Thread hijack in progress. Do not panic. Just turn the plane and head for Bali.

My avatar needs changing. Anyone want to be hypnotized by it one last time.

Man, I wish I was spliting a 60 of rye with all the cats in this thread as we speak.

Is it time to put pants on yet?

Thanks for sharing, Mr O,

Since I am at home today, I should like to respond to a couple of points in this article I take exception to:

First, is the assertion that if a band doesn't have African American rhythm that it lack "soul" or by association meaning.

"Other flagship indie bands—the Fiery Furnaces, the Decemberists, the Shins—occasionally produce memorable hooks and moments of inspired juxtaposition. (The Fiery Furnaces have a constantly mutating lineup of instruments, which makes the band sound, at its best, like a jukebox on the fritz.) Grizzly Bear, the indie band that excites me most right now, is making songs with no apparent links to black American music—or any readily identifiable genre. (The band’s sound suggests a group of eunuchs singing next to a music box on a sunken galleon.) But, in the past few years, I’ve spent too many evenings at indie concerts waiting in vain for vigor, for rhythm, for a musical effect that could justify all the preciousness."

While I agree that some indie performances have left me cold, they are easily matched by the number of performances that exactly inject more "soul" into a flater album (Small Sins come to mind, as would anyone who has seen Broken Social Scene or The New Pornographers)

"How did rhythm come to be discounted in an art form that was born as a celebration of rhythm’s possibilities? Where is the impulse to reach out to an audience—to entertain? I can imagine James Brown writing dull material. I can even imagine the Meters wearing out their fans by playing a little too long. But I can’t imagine any of these musicians retreating inward and settling for the lassitude and monotony that so many indie acts seem to confuse with authenticity and significance."

I've got a better question. Since when did the African American tradition OWN the exclusive rights to rhythm? For example, the Celtic hop and skip that the Decemebrists often display.

"Pop music is no longer made of just a few musical traditions; it’s a profusion of strands, most of which don’t intersect, except, perhaps, when listeners click “shuffle†on their iPods. Last month, in the Times, the white folk rocker Devendra Banhart declared his admiration for R. Kelly’s new R. & B. album “Double Up.†Thirty years ago, Banhart might have attempted to imitate R. Kelly’s perverse and feather-light soul. Now he’s just a fan."

AND NEVER WILL AGAIN!....Stop being so pretentious as to predict where music is heading. Or maybe he just wants the cred for starting the indie-funk movement

"The uneasy, and sometimes inappropriate, borrowings and imitations that set rock and roll in motion gave popular music a heat and an intensity that can’t be duplicated today, and the loss isn’t just musical; it’s also about risk."

How about the risk of stepping outside of musical tradition and "pop" structure and managing to create within the set template, new and exciting rhythms, chord changes and such. I loves my funk and soul, but I guess the "white" guy in me has a problem with the broad assertions that the two (indie and "soul") will NEVER intertwine and finally, that indie music today is a more exciting form of music than the Clash references earlier in the article.

Now back to the toilet....thanks for the conversation fonder!

OK folks. Plan B?

List them here.

For what its worth, I think Without Feathers was one of last year's great unsung albums.

I too have this somewhere, as well as some solid boots.

As well, I know for a fact that one former member checks this board once and awhile. He's got it for sure.

In.

Sigh, I'll bite.

I'm spinning:

"Ooooh Look At Me And My Diverse Music Tastes" by The Who Cares Orchestra.

Next up on the playlist

"Who the fuck asked me?" by the Don't Like It, Don't Read It Quartet

followed by the after hours classic

"Lefty or righty, I'll let the klennex box decide tonight" by Ted Carpel and The Tunnel Syndrome (copyright me, as of this moment)

On the cusp of its 6th year anniversary, let's revive the tradition.

Radiohead - In Rainbows - Essentially this is a one disc rotation list. Addictive, complex, not to be ignored

Grand Theft Bus - 10.06.07 - Welcome back to flavor country. Tasty.

Ween - La Cucarachca - Listening in an attempt to like half the album before the T.O. show

Miracle Fortress - Five Roses - Late to the party, happy to be here.

Band of Horses - Cease To Begin - They had me at hello. No Sophmore Jinx here.

Single of the Month - Wintersleep - Weighty Ghost = generally dislike this band, LOVE THIS SONG!

No bass laser in London?

No worries, I'm still in.

I paid zip. I haven't listened yet but based on their performance since OK Computer, I'm guessing that'll still be more than it's worth.

So whattaya think now?

This is a phenominial album. The beats are incredible; the drums sound so organic and crisp on some of these tracks. Jonny is on fuckin fire with some of those licks. The bass is the unsung hero throughout. Like jon, I am deep into this right now. Unlike Thief, there are very few throwaway track. A more sonic, more melodic, more "live" sounding effort. Already in the running for my album of the year.

I've only got it so far when I read the Disco thread. That should help us narrow it down.

Ode to Ottawa's Unoffical Embassy

for Heads and Headcases Alike

I'm glad no one died.

The End

(the beginning)

Thanks to all. Best of luck. See you soon.

Is it too late to request a case of soju? Some shrimp chips? Whatever the fuck you call those yogurts in the little bottles?

As a historian, Zeitgeist bugged me on a variety of levels, but primarily in the department UNSOURCED REFERENCING. Sure he gives us the books that he based this on but these books are in and of themselves a collection of large and in part of conspiracy theories and unfounded "truths"

Part 1 is fun to watch and does contain some facts, but is a stretch from the perspective of connecting the dots on all major religions. The Mithras stuff is bang on and is the basis for many Christan rituals. Part 2 is Loose Change lite, and conspiracy central. I am more and more convinced that the whole story on that one is not out yet (especially on Building 7 and the Pentagon) but the fact of the matter is IT'S STILL ALL WILD SPECULATION! Part 3 is fascinating but errorious as shit and a hard pill to swallow. First the Masons, the Illuminati and finally the Bankers?

I tell why I liked it though. It does spark the IMAGINATION as to what COULD be happening but again, as a historian, I'll wait until the hard evidence shows up (and trust me, 9 out of 10 times it usually does) and go back to listening to AM Coast to Coast after midnight.

Membership accepted. Welcome to the club.

Not a hoax, front page on the Globe's web site right now

Peruvians become ill at meteorite crater site

TERESA CESPEDES

Reuters

September 18, 2007 at 5:01 PM EDT

LIMA — Dozens of people living in a Peruvian town near Lake Titicaca reported vomiting and headaches after they went to look at a crater apparently left by a meteorite that crashed down over the weekend, health officials said on Tuesday.

After hearing a loud noise, people went to see what had happened and found a crater 20 metres wide and 7 metres deep on an uninhabited plateau near Carancas in the Puno region.

Experts from Peru's Geophysical Institute are on their way to the area 1,300 km south of Lima to verify whether it was a meteorite.

"We've examined about 100 people who got near to the meteorite crater who have vomiting and headaches because of gasses coming out of there," Jorge Lopez, health director in Puno, said.

People are scared," he said.

Mr. Lopez said people went to the site after hearing a crash that they thought might be an airplane.

"We ourselves went near the crater and now we've got irritated throats and itching noses," Lopez said.

The site is near the border with Bolivia and experts from San Andres university in La Paz said initial analyses of sand samples from the crater showed that it could be a meteorite, according to newspaper reports.

Luisa Macedo, a geologist with the Mining Geology and Metallurgy Institute in Lima, said the reaction between the elements in a meteorite and the Earth's surface can generate gases that then dissipate.

Meteorites fell in 2002 and 2004 in the Andean area of Arequipa in southern Peru, Hernando Tavera, head of the Peruvian Geophysical Institute, said.

Not that I am one to enjoy the pain of others but this guy has GOT to get ahold of himself.

But watch the whole thing, it's gold.

LEAVE HER ALONE

Thanks everyone for the input. 6/29 and Saturday morning coffee and paper to commence....now.

WOW! That was an incredible rendering of what seems to be an indescribable event. Great report. I'm not sure I could make it back and teach after a week like that. Good on all of you.

So Bedheads,

I've been listening the crap out of Ryan's first night back with the electric, July 21/07. Superior show, almost flawless, and a SBD ta-boot.

a) What shows this summer that you have heard that tickled your fancy?

b)I loved that Bedhead 5 set in 2005. Was there a 2006 sequel?

Do yourself a favour on the aforementioned July show, even if you are just a casual fan.

the acute lack of teenagers in my life (back to school tomorrow)

So yeah, phish is time and place, but a time and place that I loved, so I guess to me then, they become timeless..if that makes any sense.

Agreed with an asterisk.

I have no problem with the assertion that some of the sound is dated (whatever that means, less advanced, less modified, is 73 Dead dated?) However, quality playing and improvisation never go out of style. I'm not sure that I will go as ga-ga as I did back in the day upon receiving the tape of Les Claypool sitting in with the boys, because I am not anxiously awaiting the next great thing, but listening to The Clifford Ball all this week certainly reminded me that there is no shame in relistening to a band over and over at the point of their musical mastery.

*skwawk* Paisley, this is the tower. You are coming in hot and your landing gear is not yet deployed. Be advised firecrews are standing by.

The lady and I are in. See you on the island (and some before on our Friday Otown stop)

YES!!! Grand Bend Ontario. MCRORIE! He is incredible! Check the link.