MarcO

From the UofG website, under events:

12 January, 2002 (Saturday)

The New Deal

The New Deal performs at the Brass Taps, Level 2, University Centre. No cover charge.

unnnnhhhhhhh... no beer make Marc go crazy!

"Fat Bert" is playing at the Thirsty Cactus in Dundas, Ontario on Sunday night. It's free.

It's a casual collaboration between some Fat Cats members and some BNB members, I believe, although it potentially may just be Todd of the Fatties and Mike from BNB.

Just so ya know!

Does anybody know where they're playing in London at Fanshawe?

Thought some of you may be interested in hearing the band's perspective on this night. From Dan Kurtz, bassist, to their newsgroup:

Hi Folks...

After a couple of days of recovery and reflection, I thought I might add a

few comments, most likely on behalf of the whole band, about the NYE show.

Firstly, I do want to apologize on behalf of the Guvernment (a

representative of which I doubt will be gracing anyone with an apology) for

wanting to make the most of the night at the expense of the dozens of

now-unhappy people on and off this list. The impact of overcrowding was

felt by not only the many who have written to this list, but also by us (who

had to have a surreal Beatle-esque "security escort" to and from the stage)

and our closest friends and loved ones to whom we tried, in vain, to offer a

bit of VIP treatment over the course of the evening. We have forwarded

every single email we've received about the unpleasantries of the evening,

as well as our own complaint, to the people who run the club.

However, there is a bit of a triumph to be felt in the air, both by us and I

think by the majority of our fans, as a result of noting that the response

to a live band playing in one of the biggest dance-music strongholds in

Toronto was not foreseen by the Guvernment. We were moved from the Koolhaus

to the Guvernment room because the club wasn't sure that a band could be the

main attraction that night. And though it's true that a lot of live bands

play at the Guvernment complex, I don't think there's been anything other

than djs playing there on NYE for quite a few years. The Koolhaus/Guvernent

party was the biggest in Toronto that night; the most rocking party was in

the Guvernment room (vs. The Koolhaus, or wherever else in the complex)--

live music actually was at the centre of where most of the people wanted to

be. I know that at least I felt, while we were playing, that a lot of

people (especially the phalanx of shirtless groovy dancers behind the stage)

got turned on to live music in a way that they had not experienced in a long

time, if ever.

So I kind of feel that a really great thing happened at the Guvernment,

albeit it at the expense of a lot of people's comfort, and certainly at the

expense of a lot of tND fans' expectations of the night. For that, again,

we do feel badly.

Nevertheless, it appears that if there's any night of the year where

overcrowding, shitty bouncers and high ticket prices are going to set the

tone, it would definitely be NYE. Across Toronto, this was no doubt the

case wherever there were too many people wanting to get in to too small a

place, and from some reports of other shows that I've read on this list,

this phenomenon was not limited to either our show, or indeed our fair city

of Toronto.

From a technical point of view, I feel that we found a great room to play

in, where the sound was unbelieveable, the lights surreal, and (when we

raise the stage a little bit more), the sightlines excellent. It is not

outside of the realm of possibility that tND will do another show at the

Guvernment, and I'm hoping that the exceptional case of NYE will not colour

opinions too greatly of a show that we ourselves might produce there in the

future. As we have demonstrated in the past, whenever we have produced a

show of our own, all the concerns that have been addressed here over the

past few days become our priorities, and rudeness from security, dangerous

overcrowding, and other such issues are controlled to a point of being

non-existent.

So there it is. For those of you who managed to have an uncompromised and

straight-up good experience that night, count yourselves lucky-- other than

the time we were onstage, we too felt squished, harassed and tense. For

those whose evenings didn't end up including even 5 minutes of either of our

sets, I imagine we'll be able to make it up to you with a marathon set at

any number of our future shows. Thanks to all for at least trying to get in

to see us... It did, and does, mean a hell of a lot to us.

Happy New Year,

From Dan, tND and the crew.

Hi Folks...

That's a real sweet sentiment, Sean. Thanks. I'll e-mail you privately re: details but I just wanted to thank you publicly.

Marc.

You know, this board and the people on it really is/are the best!

Thanks so much for your help. Canned Beats - I'll be in touch and Northern Wish (Sean) - we'll work out arrangements.

Woo-hoo!! Man, I'm forgetting about NYE already!

The New Deal are playing U of Guelph on the 12th and Fanshawe College in London on the 15th. I believe these are "student-only" kinds of gigs, so I need some help getting myself and at least one other person into both of these shows. Please get in touch with any info you may have or ideas. I don't even know what venues the band is playing, just the schools.

Ideally, I'd like to find students who could sign us in as guests. Or, perhaps somebody knows whether or not these places have a "visting student" policy for these kinds of events; I am a part-time McMaster University student.

I'm particularly concerned about getting hooked up for the Guelph show, as I do have a few friends in London who are "working on it" but with no results yet.

Any help would be appreciated. I'd really like to attend a New Deal gig outside of Toronto and the opportunity doesn't arise that often!

Obviously, I'm not heading to Ottawa to see the New Deal but I do intend to make it there this Spring so keep posting those Nero dates so I can keep my plans open!

STUPIDEST NEW YEAR's EVER!

Fucking Guvernment Club with their fucking stupid bouncers and their stupid fucking ticket windows that you couldn't squeeze a fucking baby midget squirrel through and the fucking line-ups and 9 fucking rooms of music my ass - only if you can float through walls - and huge fucking stupid smelly beefheads working security and standing there for two fucking hours with my coat in my hands because the Kool Haus coat check was fucking full so we have to use the Guvernmnet coat check but we can't because we can't physically get to the freakin Guvernment and my girlfriend crying and Trevor and Tara (and eventually Brian) just leaving - don't blame 'em -and everybody in the crowd just being generally fucking stupid.

But it was nice to see you, Sean!

Wishing I had done BNB NYE,

MarcO.

Western Canada to be announced soon:

1-12 Guelph, ON – University of Guelph

1-15 London, ON – Fanshawe College

1-16 Hamilton, ON – The Casbah

1-17 Kingston, ON – Elixir

1-18 Ottawa, ON – Babylon

1-19 Montreal, QC – Le Medley

1-24 Fredericton, NB – The Cellar

1-25 Halifax, NS – Marquee

1-26 Quebec City, QC – Le Kashmir

go see the New Deal! They are FUCKING GOOD!

Happy Holidays to all of you! It's a great group of people on this board. I hope you all get what you wished for from Santa.

peace and love,

Marc.

Top of my wish list would be Miles Davis - The Complete "In A Silent Way" Sessions. Sigh..... that album is just *home* for me, you know?...

Other than that, that new Ween CD "Live in Toronto" would be nice Christmas family listening!

That meter is the funniest thing I've ever seen on this board. Thanks.

A very, very pleasant evening indeed. Still one of my favorite shows attended:

12-11-97 War Memorial, Rochester, NY

1: Punch You in the Eye-> Down With Disease-> Maze, Dirt, Limb By Limb, Loving Cup, Rocky Top

2: Drowned -> Roses Are Free*-> Big Black Furry Creature From Mars-> Ghost-> Down With Disease (Reprise)-> Johnny B. Goode

E: Waste

*Ween cover, from their "Chocolate and Cheese" album (first time played).

Culled this juicy nugget off the Rhombus board:

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here's a direct quote from the kottke interview in the hawaii tribune-herald (local newspaper of hilo, on the big island) from friday, dec. 7, 2001:

"[Kottke's] most recent album, "One Guitar, No Vocals," came out in June 1999, and he enjoys the fact that Private Music doesn't make him record more often than he wants to.

'The studio is the last place I want to do anything," he said. "I put it off as long as I can. But I've got a bunch of new material and I'll be playing that in the islands and I'm also working off an-and-on [sic] with a bass player named Mike Gordon. He plays bass in (the rock band) Phish. Maybe that'll be my next (recording) project or part of it.'"

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Leo Kottke, if you're wondering, is a very talented acoustic guitar player of some note. Trey has mentioned him as an influence and an inspiration.

It's the New Deal for me, all the way baby!

Thank you.

You're quite handsome yourself, Luke.

Actually, to cover my butt, "giggles" is more to the point: Colter works for Dionysian Productions, and has for a long time. I shouldn't have referred to him as "co-manager" b/c I'm not entirely sure about that.

Jason Colton is co-manager of Phish.

Electric Paradise

at the Guvernment Complex

132 Queens Quay East, Toronto

Doors Open at 9PM

19+

DJ Denise Benson (Mental Chatter, CKLN 88.1 FM)

DJ Nick Holder, (DNH Records)

and

The New Deal (Jive Records)

Early bird advance tickets, until Dec 15th are $40 (plus service

charge)through ticketmaster. Or at the usual record stores (starting Dec 7).

Admission includes

* free picolo of champagne!

* party favours

* access to the entire complex

Get your advance tickets before December 15th to save money. This is the

New Deal's first ever Toronto appearance for New Year's Eve!

Just a heads up that there are Page McConnell trio MP3s up on www.phish.com. I just checked them out and am freakin' stoked to hear more!

I just love Page! Check out his trio!

I never thought of that. Maybe I'll let it run for a bit and if it doesn't seem to be of any use to anyone, I'll take up that idea. Thanks.

To find it, go to www.burtneilson.com and look under "news".

Of course, if you wanted to, you could always go and sign up for my BNB Forum and get discussions (hopefully of a musical sort) rolling over there. I'm hoping everyone will play nicely on this board, and I'm *not* announcing it on the "official" BNB board out of fear all the bad vibes will just spill over to my site. I created it as alternate forum, one not to be used as a way of getting messages to the band members, but to each other.

peace,

Marc.

It'll be interesting to hear Page's take on things. I'm sure he'll have to do some press to push the shows/new album (which I can't freakin' wait for!).

(sigh)....the world now has one less Beatle in it, and that is a sad, sad thing indeed.

Thanks for the music George.