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Yeah, it's a real killer tune when he plays it live. It's called "Ocean" and he can really go off on it. Getting pumped for the show already! Scoring these tix would be icing on the cake I highly encourage people to come out and see this show. Well worth the price of admission ...

Looks like he's done a bunch of work with the Marlies over the years (coaching!) How many Steve Cathcarts can there be in hockey?? He may have even worked with Spezza

A buddy of mine from public school became a scout. Now, the last time i saw him was back in like 1994. He grew up playing in the NTHL and was really good. I think he got a hockey scholarship in the States, but ended up going into refereeing. When I last bumped into him he had been doing some scouting for San Jose. He said he was able to walk into any NHL rink any time for any game with those creds I should look him up.

^^^^^ Track 5 - Somebody Pick Up My Pieces W O W ! What a performance. I just zoned out here at work with the headphones on listening to that! Here, give it a try: http://download.yousendit.com/7EFB3D3A2E2A4BF4 Dammit ... she does a MIND BOGGLING version of Elton John's Talking Old Soldiers. From my fav Elton John album Tumbleweed Connection. You can hear her soul ripping apart in her performance. DAMN i knew she was good, but this is HOT. http://download.yousendit.com/1C6E768F399EC73D

Right on!

Baaaaaad body mods ... eww. #1 Beer Belly (no body mod!)

It's now closed. Looks like it would have been a fun place to catch a show (like Crusader Rabbit ) Lots of pics here; http://www.minkindesign.com/photo/sweetwater9-24-07/index.html Cool shot! Bobby and Sammy

Don't come in this thread again ... oh wait, you won't be in here, so you won't be reading it. See you in the Sens thread

All i'm saying is that I'm not expecting much from them this year. That's NOT based solely on last night's game. Pre-season means little (except for stupid injuries). With the make-up of the team, the blue line, and what the fuck's in net I just don't see a championship team. As for freeing up room on the salary ... well Sundin will be gone soon (or take a further paycut to stick around) and Kubina and McCabe should be sent packing. That right there is MILLIONS of bucks.

We can dream ... sometimes they come true This is gonna be one of "those" seasons i'm sure. Hell, i'm already thinking about "next year" There will be some REAL changes to personnel by then.

Toskala's got that "winning" attitude! With him and Raycroft as the #1 #2 they're fucked. They're even more fucked with Millions McCabe still on the ice. BENCH HIM MAURICE unless he proves himself. I expect nothing out of this team this year. Christmas time should see JFJ ousted and Maurice on shakey ground if the players don't get behind him.

Right. But there's still a slippery slope there. The referee can call Intent to injure. If intent is involved, then that IS pre-meditiation. If a player goes after another because they are seeking revenge for receiving a dirty hit (boarding by Schubert in this case) then they are going after another player with intent (def. - the state of a person's mind that directs his or her actions toward a specific object) to do harm. That is, KNOWING what they are going to do with a plan is pre-meditation. All 4 officials on the ice should be looking for, and calling these sorts of plays. I place a lot of blame on them. They should be able to quell situations like this ahead of time. One of the 4 refs that night should have stopped the play after Downie was hit from behind into the boards. Knowing the NHL though, and we've all seen it, they don't make calls like that when it's a 'goonish' type player like Downie (or Domi, Neil, McGratton, Brashear, Simon, etc.) who gets it from a 'dirty' hit. Any more news on McAmmond?

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A couple of interesting comments that I read that pose a couple of observations/solutions. There are tons of them after the McKenzie editorial. Lots of talk about the equipment, respect, disciplinary action, refs, coaches, goons, Schubert's hit on Downie, etc. etc. etc.: http://www.tsn.ca/blogs/?id=219220 After reading all of those responses to McKenzie's op-ed i'm exhausted from hockey and the season hasn't even started! Ugh! And yes, the Leafs are losing 6-2 (like that's a surprise!)

Right AD. That's what I'm talking about. I completely agree with what you're saying. So, should the rules state that any actions that happen prior to a hit that is deemed intent to injure fall within a SPECIFIC time frame? In this instance it was on the SAME shift (Downie retaliating with intent to injure after getting hit himself). Fair enough. Now, what if the collision had happened early in the next period, and say was directly at the individual who had nailed him in the previous period? In that case would the ref just call a major penalty and then leave it up to the league to review for further action? It seems to me what happens more often than not is that a ref will give warning to the benches that he won't tolerate anything that could injure a player who's a "marked man." Does that make it worse? Does that make the players play a different game? When is it a game played by the "letter of the law" in the rule books, and when is it manipulated by the referee (like good ol Kerry Frasier used to do ). Consistency is what most players, coaches and fans seem to want. With the overhauls to many of the rules, and some piss-poor officiating, league discipline, etc. many are confused (me being one of 'em )

Oh yeah. Front row balcony is awesome at Massey Hall. As it is at Shea's in Buffalo too. I'd take those seats in a heartbeat over being at the back of the floor UNDER the balcony in theatres of this style.

Whatever. I am NOT defending the hit already. I was just trying to say that from what I've seen, (and how Bob McKenzie described the analysis of their replay guys) in relation to the rules as they stand, that this is going to be difficult for Campbell to discipline HEAVILY. He has to make the decision based on the interpretation of the rules. Sure, like in many games, the retaliatory instinct comes out. I'm sure that Downie was looking to hit something after getting decked himself (that happens all the time!). However, he chose to do it in an overly-aggressive manner, but nothing as blatant McSorley, Bertuzzi, Domi's sucker punch, etc. Like it was said before, i think that this equates much more closely to the Neil hit on Drury. Bad judgment call by the hitter COMBINED with a player not seeing the hit coming, which makes it that much worse. That being said, i don't see how he could receive a 25 game suspension like was handed out last year. The refs gave a match penalty to Downie. As MacKenzie said, that decision is made by the refs when they deem there being and intent to injure on the play. Fair enough. What I find intriguing is how the circumstances AROUND a specific hit will, or will not, play in to further discipline. I posed this question (which I don't know the answer to, or if there is any protocol): IF disciplinary action is taken, will it be the result of the hit ITSELF, or will there be an assumption made that based on the fact that Downie received at hit just prior to the event that THAT is what makes this an intent to injure situation? If that is how they make these decisions, then what I wonder is in what other circumstances would actions before a hit be the grounds for claiming "intent to injure"? And how far back can you go? Retaliation, with the intent to injure, could go back as far as the last time two teams met up. So, in this instance, with McGratton making blatant statements calling for Downie to be punished on the ice, then one must consider that the precursor for an intent to injure on any ensuing hits by McGratton on Downie. This is one of those sticky situations that happens in times like this. Will it set precedent? Will it stop it from happening again? Would the same discipline be doled out if the player who received the hit was able to get up on their own? What if there was intent to injure, but the player missed the check completely? It doesn't stop the behaviour. So, what will become of this? I'm curious. I'm not defending anyone and i'm not condoning cheap play. The players do not have the respect that they used to have for one another. "Dirty" players abound, retaliation is feared due to the instigator rule and automatic suspensions, and Campbell seems to rarely hand out heavy duty convictions, or ones that are a joke (who was it in the playoffs last year who got game suspensions, but didn't have to serve them until this year's regular season? WTF?) Curious.

Dude, even better! You're right on the centre aisle!!! Ceck it out: http://www.roythomson.com/pdfs/mh_mainfloor.pdf Congrats!

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Didja get those good seats??? I just checked and they're still there (Row D Seats 32,33) Good luck ... hope you get to sit in 'em. New Mahavishnu Orchestra is up on Wolfgang's Vault: http://concerts.wolfgangsvault.com/ConcertDetail.aspx?id=20052904|4363

AD, I guess it is kinda like how they f*&cked up the first onsale for Massey by not being able to process Canadian credit cards/addresses. I'm sure they'll work it out because there's gotta be a lot of Canadians ordering this way. Just checked my email and I have 2 of these messages waiting for me (for 2 of my orders = 2 CDs i guess )

LOL .... just down throw anything down to the floor

You probably know where info is for this show now, but if you haven't got tix, now's the time to jump. I just got an email from Massey Hall listing their fall performers. For fun i went to see what would come up for McLaughlin. Pulled 4th row centre floors! Damn. I really want to see McLauchlin again but i've over done it with concert tix as of late. Get on there now if you want to pick up some killer seats for the Massey Hall show: http://ev8.evenue.net/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/SEGetEventInfo?ticketCode=GS%3ARTHMH%3A0708%3A8BJMCL%3A&linkID=rthmh&shopperContext=&caller=&appCode=