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I haven't stopped praying about this all day. Or watching it on TV for that matter!
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What a big surprise.
from www.billboard.com
Edited By Jonathan Cohen. November 02, 2004, 11:00 AM ET
Rock The Vote, MTV Irk GOP
MTV and the nonprofit group Rock the Vote, partners in a massive public awareness campaign to encourage young Americans to participate in today's (Nov. 2) presidential election, have come under fire from Republicans accusing them of pushing a pro-Democratic agenda and challenging MTV and Rock the Vote's assertions that their get-out-the-vote campaigns are nonpartisan.
The charges stem mainly from a Rock the Vote campaign focused on the issue of a military draft. To get its point across, Rock the Vote sent out 660,000 e-mails in late September with a mock draft card signed by Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld.
"You are hereby ordered for induction into the Armed Forces of the United States, and to report to a polling place near you," read the draft cards.
In addition, Rock the Vote created two public service announcements focused on the issue of the draft and a third celebrity-packed PSA that referred to the draft as one of many issues young voters might be concerned about. At least one of the draft-themed PSAs ran on MTV for 10 consecutive days in September. Rock the Vote also has devoted a significant amount of content to the issue on its Web site.
Ed Gillespie, chairman of the Republican National Committee, sent a letter to Rock the Vote president Jehmu Greene on Oct. 13 warning her that Rock the Vote had an "obligation to immediately cease and desist from promoting or conducting" its draft campaign "as a nonpartisan organization that enjoys the benefits of being formed under 501©(3) of the Internal Revenue Code."
Asserting that the "urban myth regarding a draft" had been "thoroughly debunked" by President Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney and Rumsfeld, Gillespie wrote: "This is the sort of malicious political deception that is likely to increase voter cynicism and in fact decrease the youth vote, as well as raising serious legal issues regarding the political motivations of your efforts."
Although the Republican Party's ire was raised by a Rock the Vote initiative, MTV -- which has been aligned with Rock the Vote for more than a decade and is one of the organization's financial supporters -- became a target as well. Viacom co-president and co-chief operating officer Tom Freston and MTV Networks chairman and CEO Judy McGrath are founding board members of Rock the Vote.
Dozens of protesters from the California College Republicans demonstrated Oct. 22 outside MTV Networks in Santa Monica, shouting such slogans as "Pimp my ride, not my vote" and "Total Request Lies." Despite MTV's statements that it had nothing to do with Rock the Vote's draft campaign, many Republican critics refused to draw a distinction between the two organizations that have partnered to register young voters and educate them on issues before Election Day.
"The draft scare has credibility because of MTV," said Michael Davidson, chairman of California College Republicans. "Kids know about Rock the Vote because of MTV." Davidson also alleged that MTV and Rock the Vote present young voters with perspectives on the issues that he described as "clearly left of center."
MTV and Rock the Vote executives maintain that their campaigns are designed only to grab the attention of fickle younger viewers and have no partisan motivation.
"We've never endorsed a candidate; we've never endorsed a party," said Fred Goldring, chairman of the board of Rock the Vote. "We just raise issues that young people have told us are important to them."
Goldring said Rock the Vote had Republicans on its board that knew about the organization's plan to raise the draft issue as a legitimate concern of young people that needed to be addressed by the two major-party presidential candidates. And he said Rock the Vote removed Rumsfeld's signature from the draft card as soon as complaints were lodged.
For its part, MTV said it has been fair and unbiased in its coverage of the candidates, doing its best to give equal time to Democrats and Republicans. While Kerry has been interviewed on MTV five times, MTV personalities have interviewed Bush surrogates like Gillespie, California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and Bush campaign manager Ken Mehlman because the president has been unavailable, an MTV spokesperson said.
"We are not biased in our coverage in any way, shape or form," MTV spokesperson Jeannie Kedas said. "We are very proud of our efforts in that regard, and we've been recognized by our audience."
As part of its "Choose or Lose: 20 Million Loud" campaign, MTV has run a dozen long-format specials and about 120 news pieces about the election. Since the beginning of the year, its has aired nearly 4,000 public service announcements urging young people to vote, only a handful of which were produced by Rock the Vote.
Rock the Vote, along with its partners, has spent about $40 million registering 1.4 million voters, nearly three times the number it registered in the 2000 election.
Rock the Vote's Greene said the organization never suggested that Bush favors the draft. "The issue is not whether the politicians want a draft," she said. "The issue is when does the draft become necessary, and that's what young people want to know and need to know. It's not a partisan issue when young people of this country need a fair hearing."
-- Gail Schiller, The Hollywood Reporter
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I love him as well! I've been praying for days for a good day on November 2nd.
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I thought the opening scene of Saving Private Ryan was as unnecessary and gratuitious as most sex scenes. Okay, we get it, they have sex. Okay, we get it, the guys brothers die. It's not a movie about how horrible d-day was, and shouldn't spend that much time and budget on depicting that.
Pretty off topic. Sorry.
Thing is, take away that scene and nobody would go see the movie.
I completely disagree with you Velvet. I have seen many of inteviews by both Steven Spielberg and Mel Gibson on both of these films. They both discuss how the violence in the films conveys the suffering of the characters in each story.
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As a Christian I was excited to see the "Passion of the Christ" and witnessed it in the theatre. I thought the film was excellent especially with the frequent flashbacks that Jesus had. To me the flashbacks brought some depth to the film that took it beyond Jesus Christs final days on earth.
On the topic of the violence in the film, I thought it was meant to be on screan. I'm a big fan of realism in film and the violence in the "Passion of the Christ" reminded me of the opening scenes of "Saving Private Ryan." The violence depicted the physical pain that Jesus suffered during his last days. The film can convey physical pain easily, especiall since it is obviously harder to depict the spiritual and mental anguish that Jesus suffered through on screen.
I have also seen the "The Ladykillers" and thought the film was hilarious. Tom Hanks looking like Colonel Sanders and talking like a university professor was a classic role for him. The whole cast was great.
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Are you sure this is accurate? I'm quite sure that Joni Mitchell was awarded the Order of Canada in 1996.
This past weekend Mitchell did receive an honorary degree from McGill University. Which is her first such honor.
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Nice nice nice.
Gentlemonkey will be buying a pair for me because he lost a bet involving checkers, a Meineke muffler and two quarts of organic apple Juice.
Are you serious? If so does Gentlemonkey know about the pre-sale? Go to www.wilcoworld.net to find the link and the password is chrome.
Glad to see others from this board are going to this great event!
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WILCO/FLAMING LIPS/SLEATER-KINNEY
MADISON SQUARE GARDENS
NEW YORK, NEW YORK
FRI DEC 31, 2004 7PM
I got SEC 2 (Floor) ROW L SEATS 1 & 2. I can't wait to be in the Big Apple for New Years Eve!
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I think I'm going to put on Zooropa now, I love that album.
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screw the if. If you CAN be in NY for NYE, just get tix for Benevento/Russo with Gordon...
wow!
There's a couple of road blocks (which I might mean literally). The first is that I don't know when the Wilco/Flaming Lips concert is scheduled to end, and that would be the number one reason for me to go to NYC on NYE.
Second I don't know where the BB King Blues Club is in correlation to MSG and if I have to pass through Times Square to get from one to another there might be trouble due to the road blocks put up for the Big Apple drop.
Hopefully I will have this sorted out before the Benevento/Russo with Gordon show sells out.
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Yesterday I listened to "Eat A Peach" and wondered what could have been if the great Duane Allman had survived?
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First Tony Levin, now this! He must really be trying to prove himself talented after Coventry
Trey Anastasio doesn't have to prove he's talented, everybody who knows him and his material already know he is.
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If I get tickets to Wilco/Flaming Lips NYE show, I hopefully will be able to get tickets to this too!
I guess I might just see a member of Phish for NYE after all.
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It's interesting that whoever compiled the setlist couldn't be bothered to list the Tony Bennett set...
Here's Tony Bennett's set, just for you...
Tony Bennett
Watch What Happens
The Best Is Yet To Come
Maybe This Time
I Got Rhythm
If I Ruled The World
I Wanna Be A Round
I Left My Heart In San Francisco
Steppin Out With My Baby
It Don't Mean A Thing
How Do You Keep The Music Playing
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I can't wait to see Michael Stipe and company at the Hummingbird Centre in two weeks minus a day (on Wednesday November 10)!
I just hope everybody in R.E.M. are in a great mood because Kerry victorious and not in a bad mood due to a Bush victory.
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Happy Birthday Sharon,
It was a pleasure to meet you this year and I look forward to seeing you again at the next show. May you have a wonderful day and year.
Tim
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I don't remember how old Ben Harper is, I just know this is the fifth year anniversary of the Warehouse show I saw him perform and it was his birthday.
Happy Birthday Ben,
May you have many, many more.
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Oysterhead, shmoisterhead. This I can really sink my ears into!
wow!
Down on the Oysterhead again, why Marc why? That being said this looks very interesting. I've been a lover of King Crimson, Peter Gabriel and Phish for a long time. And anyone who knows me I always wanted Phish to cover Crimson and/or Gabriel (though I've seen Trey cover Gabriel with Dave Matthews & Friends), and now he's playing with band members from these groups. Nice!
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Hopefully this will be the most significant song written by anyone in terms of influence this year.
Good for you Eminem! I tip my hat to you.
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from www.billboard.com
Edited By Jonathan Cohen. October 26, 2004, 10:25 AM ET
Wilco, Lips, Sleater-Kinney To Rock NYC NYE
Wilco, the Flaming Lips and Sleater-Kinney will team for a New Year's Eve concert at New York's Madison Square Garden. Tickets will be available via Internet pre-sale on Nov. 1 via Music Today and to the general public on Nov. 5 via Ticketmaster.
For Wilco, the show will cap a successful 2004 that has seen the release of another acclaimed Nonesuch studio album, "A Ghost Is Born," and frontman Jeff Tweedy's victory over an addiction to painkillers. The set debuted at a career-best No. 8 on The Billboard 200 and is among the finalists for the 2004 Shortlist prize, to be handed out Nov. 15 in Los Angeles.
As previously reported, the group will on Nov. 15 unveil "The Wilco Book," a volume of photos, essays and art bundled with an exclusive 12-track CD of previously unreleased music. Wilco will return to the road in 2005, with stints planned for North America, Japan, Australia and New Zealand.
The Flaming Lips are busy with a variety of projects, including the completion of the long-in-the-works film "Christmas on Mars" and working on material for their next Warner Bros. studio album, tentatively due next summer.
Sleater-Kinney recently played three shows in its Portland, Ore., hometown to stage test new songs intended for its next Kill Rock Stars album. "Now that we've played the songs live, we can't wait to get into the studio and mess with them," the band writes on its official Web site. "Only two more weeks until we head to the East Coast to record. We'll spend this interim time penning a few more tunes and tightening up the ones already written."
-- Jonathan Cohen, N.Y.
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I so want to go to this! Wilco and the Flaming Lips on NYE! Who wants to come with me?
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John Carpenter's remake of "The Thing." I'd give it five out of five stars as far as horror films go.
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I've seen two Dave Matthews & Friends shows with Trey Anastasio this past year and I have to say they were absolutely amazing shows! The Dave Matthews solo album is excellent and their choice of covers was great with songs by The Band, The Beatles, Peter Gabriel, etc.
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Damn, I wish I saved my money better this year, so I could of made it to this! Neil Young performing Buffalo Springfield's "Do I Have To Come Right Out And Say It?" Wow! And Neil and Paul McCartney performing "Only Love Can Break Your Heart" together, that would have been one of the highlights of my life and I missed it!
from www.hyperrust.org
Bridge Benefit XVIII Set Lists
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Saturday Show, Oct. 23, 2004
(tentative order of artists)
Neil (show opener)
Sugar Mountain
Do I Have To Come Right Out And Say It?
Field Of Opportunity
Tegan & Sara
I've Got You
Walking With A Ghost
Monday Monday Monday
Not Tonight
I Know I Know I Know
Living Room
Eddie Vedder
Soon Forget
Better Man
You've Got To Hide Your Love Away
Masters of War
Los Lonely Boys
Crazy Dream
Hollywood
More Than Love
Senorita
My Loneliness
Real Emotion
Heaven
Sonic Youth
I Love You Golden Blue
(w/ Lee on pump organ + Jim on piano)
Stones
Unmade Bed
Paper Cup Exit
Rain on Tin
Ben Harper & The Innocent Criminals
Wicked Man
People Lead
She's Only Happy In The Sun
Where Could I Go
Burn One Down
With My Own Two Hands/War
Red Hot Chili Peppers
By The Way
Lotta Love (Neil Young cover)
Otherside
Parallel Universe
Road Trippin
Desecration Smile (new song)
Brandy (You're A Fine Girl)
Under The Bridge
They're Red Hot
Tony Bennett
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Neil Young
Pocahontas
Harvest Moon (with Eddie Vedder)
Journey Through The Past
On The Way Home
Human Highway
Old King
Comes A Time
Four Strong Winds
Paul McCartney (order of songs unconfirmed)
Drive My Car
Til There Was You
In Spite Of All The Danger
Blackbird
Here Today
*new song* (title?)
Only Love Can Break Your Heart (with Neil Young)
Michelle
Yesterday
Get Back
Let It Be
Lady Madonna
Hey Jude (with everyone)
Sunday Show, Oct. 24, 2004
(tentative order of artists)
Neil (show opener)
Sugar Mountain
Do I Have To Come Right Out And Say It?
Long May You Run
Tegan & Sara
You Wouldn't Like Me
Monday Monday Monday
Walking With A Ghost
I Know I Know I Know
Not Tonight
Living Room
Eddie Vedder
I Am Mine
Man of the Hour
I Believe in Miracles
Baby Beluga
Here's to the State of Mississippi
Last Kiss
Los Lonely Boys
Crazy Dream
Hollywood
More Than Love
Senorita
My Loneliness
Real Emotion
Heaven
Sonic Youth
I Love You Golden Blue
(w/ Lee on pump organ + Jim on piano)
Stones
Unmade Bed
Paper Cup Exit
Rain on Tin
Ben Harper & The Innocent Criminals
Oppression
Homeless Child
Where Could I Go
Diamonds On The Inside (with Eddie Vedder)
Amen Omen
There Will Be A Light
In The Lord's Arms (with Ben's mom)
Red Hot Chili Peppers
By The Way
Lotta Love
Otherside
I Just Wanna Have Something To Do (Ramones cover)
Parallel Universe
Road Trippin'
Brandy
Under The Bridge
They're Red Hot
Tony Bennett
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Neil Young
Pocahontas
Harvest Moon (with Eddie Vedder)
Journey Through The Past
On The Way Home
Human Highway
Old King
Comes A Time
Four Strong Winds
Paul McCartney (order of songs unconfirmed)
Drive My Car
Til There Was You
In Spite Of All The Danger
Blackbird
Here Today
*new song* (title?)
Only Love Can Break Your Heart (with Neil Young)
Michelle
Yesterday
Get Back
Let It Be
Lady Madonna
Hey Jude (with everyone)
US 2004 election thread
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Bush has also won the popular vote by a large margin, even if Kerry ends up winning Ohio! Votes for Bush 58,296,120 (51%), votes for Kerry 54,778,889 (48%).
I guess that the increased voter turn out did not help Kerry as originally thought.