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  2. not that its any of our business....but how much $ does moe. make?

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    I'm right you're wrong.

    HAHA! I appreciate your directness, Luke. I'm being serious.

    In any event, the whole thing with equating money and ideology...ok, I'm guilty of that naivete, I admit. I guess I just seem to have formed an opinion over time that (1) my "wealth" should be spread and (2) no matter how little I have to spread, I should always consciously be allocating my money to places I deem worthy. Most often there's a benefit for me (e.g. concert ticket), sometimes not (e.g. corner grocery). I imagine that'll all change one day when I have a mortgage or kids to feed.

    Maybe I'm fighting on this because all of a sudden I seem to be a regularly gigging musician, whereas I wasn't six months ago. I'm starting to feel the low financial return, staring down the prospect of putting out a record on my/our own dime and probably giving half the copies away. Thems the breaks, though; I wouldn't trade it.

  3. not that its any of our business....but how much $ does moe. make?

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    Look man. I don't care whether moe. makes a ton of money either. If I was to find out that each member of moe. makes a half million dollars a year, I wouldn't then decide to skip their next local show because they don't need my money.

    What I'm saying is, I think we all have some notion that supporting independant artists we like is important, because we realize that it isn't always easy to make a living in entertainment. Same reason you might pay a little more to shop at the corner grocery because you know it's harder for the dude behind the counter to compete against the local mega-marts. You're not making huge decisions here, in the end you're out an extra buck and a half or whatever but you've voted with what few dollars you have. But if the rumour spread that the dude behind the counter drove a Bentley on the weekends and had a yacht off the coast, you wouldn't really care about voting with that buck and a half anymore, no matter how small it is. See what I mean?

  4. not that its any of our business....but how much $ does moe. make?

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    and I think by falsely stating that' date=' it's discouraging people from spending their money on guys like moe.

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    admirable of you to have moe.'s best interests at heart, but i think most people decide to spend their money on a band based on whether or not they like their sound - not what they know about their chequing accounts.

    I don't mean that I'm going to give money to a band just because they need it, whether I like them or not. What I mean is, if the hypothetical situation arises where I'm holding a moe. record and a Stones record in a record store, and I know I want to buy one and download the other, moe. needs the dough more.

    What I meant by the statement above is that, if this false impression is proliferated that moe. makes a ton of cash, people might be tempted to rip them off more readily. Let's be honest, it's a lot easier to rip off a rock band than people in many other lines of work these days.

  5. not that its any of our business....but how much $ does moe. make?

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    but, regardless, im mostly with questcequecest... i really couldnt give a flying fuck.

    I don't really care either, it's just that by my estimation they can't make anywhere near $100K - we're talking each, right? - and I think by falsely stating that, it's discouraging people from spending their money on guys like moe.

    Arts and Crafts may be grassroots...but they sell a ton of records. Multiple artists on the roster, many of whom selling very well. I just don't think there's a comparison between what one of the guys in moe. makes and one of the guys in BSS. It doesn't make sense.

  6. not that its any of our business....but how much $ does moe. make?

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    My guess would be $100 K american annually at least. Also a lot of there expenses on the road i.e. accomodation, meals, treats would be taken care of. Maybe I'm being naive, it's not like they have record sales but even after management/agents etc. get their cut each player must make a decent take home and they play a lot of dates a year.

    By comparison to give you a sense Kevin Drew of Broken Social Scene makes $95 K Canadian.

    I'm sorry man, I just don't think your moe. figure is close. BSS has toured worldwide over the past couple of years, headlining massive concerts. 95K makes sense for those guys.

    I'm sure moe. doesn't LOSE money, or else they wouldn't still be doing what they're doing. They are entirely grassroots, though, and if I had to guess, I'd say that everything they do - tour, put out a record - is funded by a company comprised of the five band members having equal shares. In fact, they've been through their share of drummers over the years, though the current guy has been around a while. I wouldn't be surprised if the three frontmen own the name and the other two are either on salary or are disconnected in some way.

    I remember a couple years back when moe. did one of the first Coca-Cola Instant Live tours (the year they came to the Phoenix in Toronto, 2002 I think). There was huge murmuring online about selling out and whatnot, and one of the drummers (either Jim the percussionist or Vinnie the kit drummer) came along and basically said, holy shit, I've lived a relatively simple life so I can continue to make music, and somebody wants to come along and pay me just a little bit extra this year, what's the big deal? I'd like to be able to move out of my one-bedroom apartment eventually. That's a paraphrase of course, but it was close.

    Now I can see that they've begun to do better in the last few years; they've made some really clever moves by hosting their own festivals (several per year as I understand it) and I'm sure they've been able to up their per-appearance rate. I wouldn't be surprised, though, if they still play in Toronto for $7000 on a weeknight. I have nothing to base this upon, of course, just a hunch.

    By comparison, Derek Trucks fetches over $10k a night, and there was a time when Gov't Mule did, too (don't know about recently though).

  23. Tons o' Shows

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    Yes sir, see you then!

    Just finished up rehearsal with the Bucks. We've had a new guy join the band, Dan Griffin. Hamilton folks would know him best as guitarist for MJ, a local MC who released a solid disc last year. Dan is a phenominal multi-instrumentalist and he and I have now taken to sharing the drum duties, so I have a chance to come up and play some guitar and some steel. There aren't many other dudes I trust on the drums, but things have just clicked. He's a fantastic player (not only on drums, but guitar, piano and mandolin as well) and just as good a songwriter. Click his name to hear some of his tunes, we'll be doing his Whiskey and Wine.

  24. Tons o' Shows

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    date fix

    Between this Thursday, Aug 10 and Monday, Sept 4, I have like 7 gigs, which is an unprecedented rate for me. Here's the list, also available on my MySpace page. Come on out if you can!

    Thurs Aug 10

    Red Zeppelin at Ciao Edie

    489 College Street, Toronto

    I play guitar

    We're on last of three bands

    $5 at the door

    Fri Aug 11

    The Surly Young Bucks at The Pepper Jack Cafe

    38 King William Street, Hamilton

    I play guitar, pedal steel and some drums

    We're on first, followed by St. Even and The Agnostic Mountain Gospel Choir (of Calgary, AB)

    $6 at the door

    Thurs Aug 17

    Red Zeppelin at Club One

    1 Manitoba Street, Bracebridge

    I play guitar

    We rock cottage country with the Zep classics

    We're expecting quite a crowd, as a matter of fact, but the more the merrier

    At least two sets (three if the crowd sticks around), beginning between 9:30 and 10

    $10 at the door

    Fri Aug 25

    The Surly Young Bucks at Casbah

    306 King Street West, Hamilton

    I play, pedal steel and some drums

    We open a night headlined by The Ride Theory

    $TBA

    Fri Aug 25

    The Damo Suzuki Network at The Pepper Jack Cafe

    38 King William Street, Hamilton

    Right after our slot at Casbah, I pack the steel into Old Blue and rocket down to the PJ where I'll make an appearance during the second set. More details at pepperjackcafe.com

    Sat Aug 26

    The Surly Young Bucks at The Silver Dollar

    486 Spadina Avenue, Toronto

    I play guitar, pedal steel and some drums

    We open the night, followed by Sweet Thing and The Frontier Index. Sweet bill!

    $TBA

    Mon Sept 4

    The Surly Young Bucks at Casbah

    306 King Street West, Hamilton

    I play guitar, pedal steel and some drums

    Opening for The Grass (of Halifax, NS)

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