Esau.

"A Cherry Pie, an Apple Pie and a Pumpkin Pie, Each Cooked Inside a Separate Cake, and Then All Cooked Together inside Another Cake."

It is a called a cherpumple, and it represents all that remains good and right in this fallen world. Pastry chef David Lowery made this 21 lb. 10 oz. concoction for guests at the Grand Geneva Resort in Wisconsin. I feel a rekindling of hope for the human race because we can still do great things like this.

http://www.neatorama.com/2011/11/22/cherry-apple-pumpkin-pie-together-inside-cake

Glad no one was getting arrested, sorry to hear about this though.

I'm sure many folks are as confused as they are surprised. What's the overall vibe in your opinion Todd? I saw tweets referring to the "opium law".

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I hope Velvet learned from his mother's teachings and wore clean underwear.

Just received an email about this. That sucks.

Prince has been rehearsing here in Hamilton for a few days.

how does one even judge this? I can't imagine anyone having the capacity to be objective.

When I was there, we were given a packet/kit which contained numerous treats and what not, but also included a list of all the entered strains (herb/hash), the coffee shop that entered them and their location(s) (eg: address). As well, it list all coffee shops you could vote for (best atmosphere etc) and all the halls where the speakers/bands/celebs were going be, plus a ton of other helpful info like the location of both daily 420s (usually had a band and speaker). Basically, a guide/program/judges list/coffee shop address book etc.

Only way I was able to make a somewhat informed vote was to try something new each morning - take notes (smell, taste, type of buzz etc), then I'd go for a walk check out the sights and when it wore off, I'd try something else and repeat the process for the day until dinner. Evenings, I never tried to keep notes or track of what I was smoking (unless it really stood out). I basically made my choices in the first 3 or 4 days. After that, I just bought what I enjoyed the best (temple ball/dutch star), partied and waited for voting day. Although, I was there solo, so I didn't have many distractions.

Everyone who buys a ticket is a judge, but not everyone actively keeps track of what they smoke or even votes. But really, it's not that hard to do.

Nice. Be great to hear about what it's like now-a-days. I went to the 10th.

Have a fun.

Neil Young

At The Bridge Collection Vol 1

1986 - 2003

Proshot/Audience

Video Tracks:

224 MPEG, 704 x 480, 4:3, 29.97 fps, 9.56 Mbps,

Duration: 1:16:15

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Menu 1:

Bridge Benefit I

Shoreline Amphitheatre

Mountain View, CA

13th October 1986

01. Comes A Time

02. Heart of Gold

03. Helpless*

04. I Am A Child

* with Bruce Springsteen & Nils Lofgren

Menu 2:

Bridge Benefit XIII

Shoreline Amphitheatre

Mountain View, CA

31st October 1999

Show Opener Set

05. I Am A Child

06. Good To See You

07. Daddy Went Walkin'

Regular Set

08. Old King

09. Long May You Run

10. Sugar Mountain

11. Homegrown

12. Oh Mother Earth

13. Harvest Moon

14. Cortez The Killer

15. Old Man

Finale

16. I Shall Be Released

Menu 3

Bridge Benefit XVII

Shoreline Amphitheatre

Mountain View, CA

25/26th October 2003

17. Sugar Mountain

18. Mother Earth

19. Comes A Time

What a headcase.

I understand why we [Canada] need to or should be present at these talks and all, but I don't know how something like this will really benefit us either. It seems like this will just open the flood gates for outsourcing even more jobs, or allowing foreign business or banking to set standards here. Of course, this doesn't mean we'll sign anything but given Harper's track record and all...

Maybe I'm misunderstanding things, I dunno. But, given the current state of the numerous failing foreign financial institutions, comments like this actually concern me.

"Another issue the Americans might like to put on the table with Canada is opening the banking sector to more foreign financial services."

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2011/11/15/weston-pacific-trade.html?cmp=rss

The Harper government's sudden desire to be part of a potentially sweeping new free-trade deal with Asia-Pacific countries and the U.S. could have far-reaching consequences for ordinary Canadians, possibly affecting everything from milk prices and cellphone rates to foreign takeovers and internet regulation.

Reaction to Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s unexpected announcement at a weekend summit meeting in Hawaii has mainly focused on whether the proposed free-trade deal would mean Canada’s having to tear down long-standing protectionist walls around dairy and poultry producers.

But trade experts say Canada's participation in the so-called Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) deal would almost certainly have an impact far beyond the farmyard.

So far, it is a comprehensive negotiation covering over 11,000 tariff categories and other trade issues among nine countries — the U.S., Australia, New Zealand, Malasia, Singapore, Vietnam, Brunei, Chile and Peru.

More than 20 negotiating groups have already met in nine formal rounds of bargaining to develop the specific commitments the countries will make to open their markets to each other's goods, services and government procurement.

Japan recently asked to join the negotiations along with Canada, and even China is making favourable comments about the proposed pact.

Where exactly the Trans-Pacific negotiations will lead — and how long it might take to get there —remain unclear.

But experts say one thing is certain: For the first time in almost two decades, Canada’s entering the fray will ultimately put this country once again across the free-trade bargaining table from our biggest commercial partner.

John Weekes, Canada's former chief negotiator for the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) almost 20 years ago, says the U.S. will likely use a new Asia-Pacific deal to try to resolve a whole range of bilateral trade issues with Canada.

For instance, he says, NAFTA never dealt with Canadian foreign ownership rules that have kept American companies out of this country's lucrative telecommunications market — a fact, many argue, that has also been to the detriment of consumers here.

Documents from the U.S. Trade Office describe the proposed Trans-Pacific agreement as promoting "competitive access for telecommunications providers in TPP markets."

And Weekes says the U.S. might well want to use those negotiations to open up the Canadian telecom market to foreign ownership.

Since the Harper government has already shown it wants more competition, especially in the cellular phone market, it could also find the Trans-Pacific negotiations a convenient excuse to oblige.

The U.S. government documents go on to describe the proposed Trans-Pacific deal as a "single undertaking that covers all key trade-related areas."

While the documents are long on generalities and short on specific trade measures being contemplated, there is no doubt Canada is entering into negotiations that could cut a swath across all sectors of the economy and society.

For instance, negotiators are already considering proposals "addressing the high cost of international mobile roaming," those often punishing charges slapped on travellers using their cellphones and mobile data devices on the road.

Another issue the Americans might like to put on the table with Canada is opening the banking sector to more foreign financial services.

According to the U.S. Trade Office: "The TPP text related to investment in financial institutions and cross-border trade in financial services will improve transparency, non-discrimination, fair treatment of new financial services, and investment protections."

The proposed deal even includes "provisions addressing customs duties in the digital environment."

Of course, Canada could also find the Asia-Pacific trade talks useful in addressing a growing roster of trade irritants being spawned in an increasingly protectionist Washington of late.

The U.S. administration, for instance, may have a hard time defending its "Buy America" policy for all federal infrastructure projects while it is negotiating a Trans-Pacific deal that guarantees "government procurement is conducted in a fair, transparent and non-discriminatory manner."

Of course, in theory, there is nothing to say that Canada has to remain in the Trans-Pacific negotiations, or sign a new free trade deal with anyone.

But as the Harper government has apparently recognized, this is one time that not being a player would be risky if not reckless.

With the U.S. in virtual stagnation and Europe on the brink of economic disaster, Canada can ill-afford to ignore any opportunity to exploit the exploding markets in Asia and the rest of the Pacific rim.

Former NAFTA negotiator Weekes puts it clearly: "If other countries are starting to get tariff-free access and other improved trade with these major growth areas of the Pacific, we certainly want to be there too."

One way or another, Canada’s sudden move towards free trade with Asia and the Pacific rim involves a lot more than the price of milk, eggs and chickens.

Anyways, the point I was trying to make to you is that Miller didnt receive a head shot so Kerry Fraser's opinion doesnt really carry any weight with what Mark Howe had to say.

My thoughts exactly. Hence, I missed the connection. My mistake.

Bias aside, while I do think it sucks that Miller was hurt and now out (due to multiple concussions) I really don't think it called for a suspension, a major penalty I could have seen and I was surprised Lucic didn't get more then 2 mins (or a fine even). I don't think he tried to take him out (malicious), but I also think he just isn't skilled enough to react/move out of the way quick enough, especially since Miller (although perhaps not intentionally) was moving right in line with him to clear the puck. I dunno, maybe I'm wrong, but that's how I saw it. Of course Miller was upset and I understand, but he is lucky he didn't connect with the two handed swing he took. Retaliation like that never goes over well.

Regardless, it sucks to see that shit happen, although I doubt people would be as upset if it wasn't who it was.

What does this have to do with Miller?

I thought that we needed a thread for miscellaneous NHL stuff

Old video, and perhaps shared here before, but worth posting again.

"A lone young Belgian boy is waiting to salute the Canadian troops passing by who had been attending a memorial service. Such class from our Canadian troops - watch what they do for this little boy. The "Eyes Right" command is the biggest compliment troops on parade can pay and is reserved for dignitaries in reviewing stands."

Thank you to ALL who have served and given their lives, your bravery and sacrifice will never be forgotten. Especially my great grandfathers (WWI) and grandfathers (WWII) .

Thank you to those who continue to serve, for your commitment, bravery and sacrifice, especially my brother Brad who served the Royal Canadian Navy (HMCS Toronto & Iroquois) and today, currently serves the Royal Air Force (UK). Words cannot express how proud I am of you. Thank you Brad.

List of charges and actual grand jury report against Sandusky.

http://deadspin.com/5856777/jerry-sandusky-and-to-penn-state

Saw this on twitter..

Mark Madden just said on WEEI that reports coming that Sandusky and Second Mile pimped out young boys to rich donors.

Link to actual audio:

http://audio.weei.com/a/48513317/mark-madden-talks-about-the-penn-state-scandal

Saw this mentioned on twitter:

"Metallica and Lou Reed's collaborative album Lulu sold 13,000 copies its first week out, debuting at #36 on Billboard Album Charts."

I don't get this "hatin on" crap when someone says they don't enjoy a band. I don't have the capacity to hate music. I hate things like racism, child predators/abusers and women beaters. Music on the other hand, I enjoy, or don't enjoy.

I'd much rather see Motorhead as a headliner in a different venue, but such is life, so I'll take my opportunities to see them live where I can get them. I've always been at odds with the bands they tour(ed) with.

Is it your Bday too Greg? If so we're a day apart...Keep on Bro!

Nah, my 42nd will be in june, thanks though. But Happy birthday to you, in advance.

I just figured this album was perhaps one of the standards most folks here probably owned and/or grew up with and it was worth noting it turned forty. Perhaps I should have worded it differently, but I figured the bold part in my original post would be self explanatory.

I'm sure Led Zeppelin IV appreciates the b-day wishes.

My 40th on the other hand, was well over a year ago.

Pulled the vinyl out earlier in honour.

The fourth album by the English rock band Led Zeppelin was released on 8 November 1971. No title is printed on the album, so it is generally referred to as Led Zeppelin IV, following the naming standard used by the band's first three studio albums. The album has alternatively been referred to as the Four Symbols logo, Four Symbols, The Fourth Album (those two titles each having been used in the Atlantic catalogue), Untitled, The Runes, The Hermit, and ZoSo, the latter of which is derived from the symbol used by Jimmy Page for the album sleeve. ZoSo has subsequently been used as moniker for Jimmy Page.

Upon its release, Led Zeppelin IV was a commercial and critical success. The album is one of the best-selling albums worldwide at 32 million units. It has shipped over 23 million units in the United States alone, making it the third-best-selling album ever in the US. In 2003, the album was ranked 66th on Rolling Stone magazine's list of "The 500 Greatest Albums of All Time".

:chug:

Brent Mydland

Solo album (unreleased)

1982

1 - Inlay It In Your Heart

2 - Tons Of Steel

3 - Dreams

4 - Maybe You Know

5 - Nobody's

6 - See The Other Side

7 - Long Way To Go

8 - Take One

Fill:

Built To Last Outtakes:

9 - Start Your Engines

10 - Blow Away

11 - Take You Home

Silver

12 - Instrumental

13 - Climbing

In for one of oshawa or hamilton, but not staying for Megadeth.

:chug:

My thoughts exactly. Saw them once at Maple Leaf Gardens with Sabotage and Dio, once was enough.

I may be in for Hamilton as I'd love to see Motorhead again (been a long time), but it'll depend on ticket price or if I can swing a deal with a family friend that works for HEFCI.

Off topic:

Megadeth & Motorhead are playing some Canadian dates in February. Quebec City, Montreal, Kingston, Oshawa, Hamilton, Saskatoon, Edmonton, Calgary, Abbotsford.

IBRO - Rated 10th greatest heavyweight of all time

World Boxing Hall of Fame Inductee

International Boxing Hall of Fame Inductee

73% of wins by KO

"If God ever called me to a holy war, Joe Frazier is the man I'd want beside me." - Muhammad Ali

Joe Frazier, Ex-Heavyweight Champ, Dies at 67

Joe Frazier, the former heavyweight champion whose furious and intensely personal fights with a taunting Muhammad Ali endure as an epic rivalry in boxing history, died Monday night. He was 67.

His business representative, Leslie Wolff, told The Associated Press in early November that Frazier had liver cancer and that he had entered hospice care.

3 Page article:

http://www.nytimes.com/joe-frazier-ex-heavyweight-champ-dies-at-67