Basher

I wanted someone with actual knowledge to pipe in before I said anything, but like RobL said, there is no fucking chance they are getting that car repaired. Zero.

Thorgnor, I'm never going to say that Toronto is a more desirable NBA location than LA, and neither would anyone else. He's friends with Kobe, and as soon as he realized he wasn't going to be cashing in with a bigger contract he went to a place where he can play for a ring. There is nothing unusual about that.

Jordan balked at the length/$$ left on Calderon's contract.

I don't know if you really want to become less ignorant here or not, but to answer your questions:

The league nixed the Barnes deal because the "sign" part of the sign and trade, from Orlando's perspective, was illegal. Orlando could not sign Barnes to more than 1.8M a season, and they tried to sign him for $4.5M per season to make the trade to Toronto work.

As for the Charlotte trade, it has been widely reported that Michael Jordan nixed the deal at the last moment, even after the players have been informed.

As you can see, the Raptors finances have nothing to do with those matters.

It is irrelevant what the Raps "offered" Barnes, because the offer was voided by the league.

Barnes, FWIW, did choose to come to Toronto before the league nixed the deal.

Raptors did not offer him 3.8M in an S&T. How does a player taking less money relate to the profitability of a team?

Good thing we have the Internet, or we may never of heard.

100% IN

Not really encouraging when you can't lure any free agents to your team either.

Well that doesn't really apply to the Barnes situation. Raptors could NOT make a free agent offer to Barnes, they could only obtain him in a sign and trade, and Orlando only had the cap space to sign him to a 2 years, 3.8M. He wanted more money, which the Raptors tried to give him, but it didn't work under the CBA.

the Raps as a franchise are in jeopardy imo

Just wondering, what is that opinion based on? According to Forbes, even after a down season, the Raptors were ranked #11 in NBA valuations and had an operating income $18M.

Or do you think business has nothing to do with it?

28,500 Google hits for Captain Bringdown, including:

http://www.captainbringdown.com/

And there is absolutely, positively a lockout on the horizon. As soon as this season ends.

The other thing to keep in mind is that most pro clubs impact other revenue streams associated with the owner(s). Also, nobody really seems to agree on the math around these figures.

Regardless, basketball is not dead in Canada.

I'm just saying that operating income for the team alone does not paint the picture.

Vibes Kev, losing a pet is rough.

Oh and FYI, the latest Forbes numbers that I could find indicate that 14 NHL teams lost money in (I think) the 2009 season.

So, if a team is losing $15M per year, but after ten years the franchise is sold for $250M more than it was purchased for, is the team really losing money?

If it started as a flag, and was then marked up, then yes. to me it appeared as though the stealie part was screened, but whatever, I guess it makes no difference either way.

ike, you believe that the image below is the National Flag of Canada?

Basketball in Canada is done?

I don't want to talk about it.

Good luck Bones!

For those considering zip.ca, be warned, you will hardly ever get something high on your "ziplist". Just for kicks I left nothing but 3 new releases on my ziplist for a few weeks, and nada.

I am precisely on the middle of the fence about checking out at least one set.

Hmmmmmmm.

The purple font was in relation to the source of the information about the changes for this show, which was a band's Facebook page. I was just pointing out that maybe c-towns was asking the wrong person.

Are the set times and door price still the same then?

9pm start?

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Not really sure, as Tea Leaf Green hasn't announced anything on their Facebook page.