PassedOutGuy

Welcome to Canada and the skanktuary where inane conversation is bliss to most... i second the where are you from comment and what are ur musical interests... oh ya stay away from Booche...

he smells

Hey Sari... im not sure if we've met before.. ill have a beige Phish hat on so if ya see me say hi... all be with the PassedOutGirl, Basher and Stoned Phillips most likely...

Hey happy Bithday Alan... have a great day.. ill cheers ya at Xavier Rudd tonight...

Ya i hear ya brother.. or just somehow get him to switch cities.. which do u think would be easier? If i didnt have to work on my b day id be all over the trade...

Thanks for the heads up there AD.. should look a little better now... so Who's comin with me?

Its my Birthday the next day so am wonderin whose comin out to see this fantastic one man band... im just gettin into his music and its definately alot of fun.. think keller meets digeridoo... $10 advanced, $12 at the door...

Don't get me wrong Del im a huge Punk fan and have thought that his addition to Nero was a great great thing... the evening after Phil just seemed to feel right... it was tight, rocking and soo much fun... ive seen so many shows with Chris that just make me say what the fu©k just happened to my brain and i love how this band evolved to use the term to this point... I truly believe that they are tighter than ever now.. last night was smokin... and i know i say that after many gigs i see them play but truthfully last night was ON!

foot note.. yes, i was wasted

Holy kicked in the face by Nero last night...i was speakin with Booche at one point about Nero's pinacle show for me being 7.9.02 Phil afterparty but im seriously going on record as saying there were definately alot of moments last night that rivaled that in a big way... I had a let Punk sing sign that Giggles so graciously helped hold up... after the second or third song i gave it to Todd and said u know what... there sno need for this tonightr.... the boys are on fire kinda thing... by the end of the night though i was cravin a Travellin Matt from the Punk but alas no go... great night great people great music... thank you Nero

So what time are you too headin into the city? I'll have to get ya directions back to my place from Jaimoe's.. if ur subwaying it over to leave the car its real simple... ill be at work until 4.. gimmie a ring at 416 335 4311 or at home after that at 698 7112...

u have corrected my ignorance BradM... iknew it wasnt an official Nero gig.. i just thought that was the trailor park themed night...

wasnt that a punk and friends and nero 2 night run? im thinkin it was cause i was at the trailor park theme gig... but i could be wrong

this election is definately fu©ked up.... sorry, but for kerry to have such a lead and then Bush fight back while Americans die one by one in Iraq.. what are people thinking?

save your country yo...

this was forwarded to me from a friend of mine... a political activist in Toronto... long live conspiracy theories eh... wow

Government Insider Says Bush Authorized 911 Attacks

From Thomas Buyea

9-17-4

Keep in mind when reading this, that the man being interviewed is no

two-bit internet conspiracy buff.

Stanley Hilton was a senior advisor to Sen Bob Dole ® and has

personally known Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz for decades. This courageous man has

risked his professional reputation, and possibly his life, to get this

information out to people.

The following is from his latest visit to Alex Jones' radio show.

Forwarded with Compliments of Free Voice of America (FVOA): Accurate

News and Interesting Commentary for Amerika's Huddled Masses Yearning to

Breathe Free.

Note: All honor to Stanley Hilton for risking his life so that we may

know the truth of 9/11.

The Bush Junta Unmasked

"This (9/11) was all planned. This was a government-ordered operation.

Bush personally signed the order. He personally authorized the attacks.

He is guilty of treason and mass murder." --Stanley Hilton.

Alex Jones interview of Stanley Hilton, attorney for 911 taxpayers'

lawsuit.

To hear Alex's interview with Stanley Hilton -

www.prisonplanet.tv/audio/091204hilton.htm or download the 6mb MP3 file directly from

http://www.prisonplanet.tv/audio/091004hilton.mp3. Visit Hilton's

website at http://www.deprogram.info.

Alex Jones Radio Show September 10, 2004 Transcription by 'RatCat'.

AJ: He is back with us. He is former Bob Dole's chief of staff, very

successful counselor, lawyer. He represents hundreds of the victims

families of 9/11. He is suing Bush for involvement in 9/11. Now a major

Zogby poll out - half of New Yorkers think the government was involved in

9/11. And joining us for the next 35 minutes, into the next hour, is

Stanley Hilton. Stanley, it's great to have you on with us.

SH: Glad to be on.

AJ: We'll have to recap this when we start the next hour, but just in a

nutshell, you have a lawsuit going, you've deposed a lot of military

officers. You know the truth of 9/11. Just in a nutshell, what is your

case alleging?

SH: Our case is alleging that Bush and his puppets Rice and Cheney and

Mueller and Rumsfeld and so forth, Tenet, were all involved not only in

aiding and abetting and allowing 9/11 to happen but in actually

ordering it to happen. Bush personally ordered it to happen. We have some very

incriminating documents as well as eye-witnesses, that Bush personally

ordered this event to happen in order to gain political advantage, to

pursue a bogus political agenda on behalf of the neocons and their

deluded thinking in the Middle East. I also wanted to point out that, just

quickly, I went to school with some of these neocons. At the University

of Chicago, in the late 60s with Wolfowitz and Feith and several of the

others and so I know these people personally. And we used to talk about

this stuff all of the time. And I did my senior thesis on this very

subject - how to turn the U.S. into a presidential dictatorship by

manufacturing a bogus Pearl Harbor event. So, technically this has been in the

planning at least 35 years.

AJ: That's right. They were all Straussian followers of a Nazi-like

professor. And now they are setting it up here in America. Stanley, I know

you deposed a lot of people and you've got your $7 million dollar

lawsuit with hundreds of the victim's families involved.

SH: 7 billion, 7 billion

AJ: Yeah, 7 billion. Can you go over some of the new and incriminating

evidence you've got of them ordering the attack?

SH: Yes, let me just say that this is a taxpayers' class action lawsuit

as well as a suit on behalf of the families and the basic three

arguments are they violated the Constitution by ordering this event. And

secondly that they [garbled] fraudulent Federal Claims Act, Title 31 of the

U.S. Code in which Bush presented false and fraudulent evidence to

Congress to get the Iraq war authorization. And, of course, he related it

to 9/11 and claimed that Saddam was involved with that, and all these

lies.

AJ: Tell you what, stay there. Stanley, we've got to break. Let's come

back and get into the evidence. BREAK

AJ: All right my friends, second hour, September 10th, 2004, the

anniversary of the globalist attack coming up tomorrow. It's an amazing

individual we have on the line. Bob Dole's former chief of staff, political

scientist, a lawyer, he went to school with Rumsfeld and others, he

wrote his thesis about how to turn America into a dictatorship using a

fake Pearl Harbor attack. He's suing the U.S. government for carrying out

9/11. He has hundreds of the victims' families signing onto it - it's a

$7 billion lawsuit. And he is Stanley Hilton. I know that a lot of

stations just joined us in Los Angeles and Rhode Island and Missouri and

Florida and all over. Please sir, recap what you were just stating and

then let's get into the new evidence. And then we'll get into why you are

being harassed by the FBI, as other FBI people are being harassed who

have been blowing the whistle on this. So, this is really getting

serious. Stanley, tell us all about it.

SH: Yeah, we are suing Bush, Condoleezza Rice, Cheney, Rumsfeld,

Mueller, etc. for complicity in personally not only allowing 9/11 to happen

but in ordering it. The hijackers we retained and we had a witness who

is married to one of them. The hijackers were U.S. undercover agents.

They were double agents, paid by the FBI and the CIA to spy on Arab

groups in this country. They were controlled. Their landlord was an FBI

informant in San Diego and other places. And this was a direct, covert

operation ordered, personally ordered by George W. Bush. Personally

ordered. We have incriminating evidence, documents as well as witnesses, to

this effect. It's not just incompetence - in spite of the fact that he is

incompetent. The fact is he personally ordered this, knew about it. He,

at one point, there were rehearsals of this. The reason why he appeared

to be uninterested and nonchalant on September 11th - when those videos

showed that Andrew Card whispered in his ear the [garbled] words about

this he listened to kids reading the pet goat story, is that he thought

this was another rehearsal. These people had dress-rehearsed this many

times. He had seen simulated videos of this. In fact, he even made a

Freudian slip a few months later at a California press conference when he

said he had, quote, "seen on television the first plane attack the

first tower." And that could not be possible because there was no video.

What it was was the simulated video that he had gone over. So this was a

personally government-ordered thing. We are suing them under the

Constitution for violating Americans' rights, as well as under the federal

Fraudulent Claims Act, for presenting a fraudulent claim to Congress to

justify the bogus Iraq boondoggle war, for political gains. And also,

under the RICO statute, under the Racketeering Corrupt Organization Act,

for being a corrupt entity. And I've been harassed personally by the

chief judge of the federal court who is instructing me personally to drop

this suit, threatened to kick me off the court, after 30 years on the

court. I've been harassed by the FBI. My staff has been harassed and

threatened. My office has been broken into and this is the kind of

government we are dealing with.

AJ: Absolutely and now it has come out - five separate drills of flying

hijacked jets into buildings that morning - which you told us about

before it even broke in the Associated Press. They were trying to get out

ahead of you. You talked about how you interviewed military people who

were told it was a drill that morning. Then to get out ahead of that,

the news finally reported on it. Now, we've learned that all these

operations - I want to get into that, I want to talk about the new

incriminating evidence of ordering it and how they had drilled on this, how

Cheney was in the bunker controlling this. That has even come out in the

mainstream news but they won't release the details of that, Stanley. But

what type of FBI harassment are you going through? SH: First of all, my

office was burglarized in San Francisco several months ago. Files were

gone through and some files were seized - particularly the ones dealing

with the lady that was married to one of the hijackers. Fortunately, I

had spare copies in a hidden place so nothing disappeared permanently.

But more significantly, FBI agents have been harassing one of my staff

members and threatening them with vague but frightening threats of

indicting them. And it's just total harassment. They have planted a spy, an

undercover agent, in my organization, as we just recently discovered.

In other words, these are Nazi Germany tactics. This is the kind of

government you have in this country. This is what Bush is all about.

AJ: Stay there, Stanley, Bob Dole's former chief of staff. We'll come

back after this quick break. Please stay with us. BREAK

AJ: All right, eight minutes, 25 seconds into the second hour. Stanley

Hilton, political scientist, lawyer, Bob Dole's former chief of staff,

is suing the government for 7 billion dollars for carrying out 9/11 and

for racketeering. And he joins us now. During the break, I first really

did the big interview with Stanley Hilton after I saw him attacked on

Fox News. And that interview got massive attention. And then he kind of

went underground for a while because a judge, we're going to talk about

that, ordered him to not do any more interviews. And now he's back

doing interviews. He's had his office broken into, FBI threats and

harassment. Bottom line, he has deposed military individuals, wives of

hijackers, you name it, it was a government operation. It has even come out in

mainstream news, a piece here, a piece there. They had drills on 9/11,

that's why NORAD stood down. Cheney was in control of the whole thing.

Stanley Hilton has now gotten documents about how Bush ordered the

whole operation. And I'll tell you right now, his life is in danger, folks.

And he's got so much courage. He went to school with these neocons at

the University of Chicago. He wrote his thesis on how the government

could use terrorist attacks to set up martial law. He is the man for the

time and folks wondered why he disappeared for a while and just did his

lawsuit and wasn't doing interviews, it was because he was ordered to.

Stanley, can you get into that for us?

SH: I did an interview with you, Alex, back in March of 2003, about a

year and a half ago, and literally two weeks after that, I was contacted

by the emissary of the chief judge of the federal court where I have

the lawsuit. And I was warned not to publicize it but to keep it quiet

and threatened with discipline. And it remained quiet until a couple of

months ago and then I got on the air on some programs and some publicity

and July 1st, I was threatened directly by the chief judge here,

threatened with court discipline. This particular judge has been circulating

communiqués to the other federal judges seeking anything negative she

can get against me to try and discipline me after I've been on the court

here for 30 years with no disciplinary problems at all. This is

suddenly happening. And her assistants who are on the committee of the court

met with me on July 1st in Palo Alto, California, and threatened me

directly. They handed me a copy of the lawsuit and said that the judge

wants me to dismiss this. What's this? She doesn't like the content of it.

This is politically incorrect. This is outside the norm. I said I

represented more than 400 plaintiffs, how am I going to dismiss this case?

And they threatened me directly and they said, "the next time you'll be

disciplined." And also they've threatened me not to go public, etc. And

this is just outrageous.

AJ: It's all color of law. No direct orders, just all in your face.

SH: They sent a letter out, and of course they deny it's because of the

political content of the suit but they told me directly on the phone

that it is because of this suit and this judge is very, very angry,

apparently has been in contact with Ashcroft's Justice Department. I got a

call from Ashcroft's Justice Department a few months ago about this,

demanding that I drop the suit, threatening sanctions and all kinds of

things. I refused to drop it.

AJ: Now let's go back over, you had them break into your office,

harassment. Let's go over that in detail.

SH: My office was broken into about 6 months ago. The file cabinets -

it was obvious they had been rifled through. Files were stolen. Files

dealing with this particular case and particularly with the documents I

had regarding the fact that the - some of these hijackers, at least some

of them were on the payroll of the U.S. government as undercover FBI,

CIA, double agents. They are spying on Arab groups in the U.S. And, in

effect, all this led up to the effect that al Qaeda is a creation of the

George Bush administration, basically. That the entity that he called

al Qaeda is directly linked to George Bush. And all this stuff was

stolen. Fortunately, I had copies. But this was just part of the harassment.

The FBI has also been harassing some of my assistants and has planted a

spy in our midst. And it is just outrageous that these Nazi tactics are

being used - and the obstruction of justice, these people are

criminals. And that's what's happening under the tremendous pressure here to

just drop it. Or to shut up now and just go away.

AJ: Now, let's talk about what they want you to drop. Let's talk about,

without giving names, the people you deposed, what really happened, the

picture you've got. You said earlier that Bush ordered this, they were

simulating this which they now admit there were simulations on that

morning. Let's go over what they don't want you to talk about, Stanley.

SH: We have evidence both documentary as well as witness sworn

statements from undercover former FBI agents, FBI informants, etc., that other

officials in the Pentagon and the military and the Air Force that deal

with the fact that there were many drills, many rehearsals for 9/11

before it happened. Bush had seen this simulated on TV many times. He

blurted this out at a press conference in California a few months after

9/11 where he said he had, quote, seen the first plane hit the first

building on the video. And that's not possible because there was no official

video of that. There was one of the second plane not the first one. He

had seen the first one. We do have some incriminating documents that

Bush personally ordered 9/11 events. It was well planned. A FEMA official

has admitted on tape that he was there the night before - September

10th, that is

AJ: And now Mayor Giuliani, a few months ago in the 911 Commission,

admitted that - Tripod II. They had their whole command post already moved

out of Building 7. Now, this is very, very important. This is a key

area of this whole event. You said months before it came out on the CIA's

own website and the Associated Press, you said I deposed people. They

said there were drills that morning and exactly what happened, happening

- that was the smoke-screen for the stand-down. And then to get out

ahead of it, the CIA comes out and said yeah we were running a drill that

morning. Now, we've learned that five, possibly six, were confirmed.

Five of these - one drill with the exact same thing happening that

actually happened, at the exact same time in the morning. That's why NORAD

stood down with 24 different blips on the screen. You've said this. You

brought this up first. Now, I know you can't get too much into detail

but can you tell us how you learned of this?

SH: I have interviewed individuals in NORAD and the Air Force. I

personally toured NORAD many years ago around the time that I worked for

Dole. I'm very familiar with the operations at Cheyenne Mountain at

Colorado Springs, where NORAD is. Individuals that work in NORAD as well as

the Air Force have stated this, off the record, but the point is, yes,

this was not just five drills but at least 35 drills over at least two

months before September 11th. Everything was planned, the exact location

AJ: But five drills that day.

SH: That day, that day, and Bush thought it was a drill. That's the

only explanation for why he appeared nonchalant

AJ: We also had NORAD officers and civilian air traffic controllers

going, "Is this part of the exercise? Is this a drill?"

SH: Yes.

AJ: On the tapes and in TV interviews, they thought it was, quote, a

drill.

SH: That's right. That's exactly what I said long before it became

public. I've known about this since earlier in March of '03, as I stated

before. This was all planned. This was a government-ordered operation.

Bush personally signed the order. He personally authorized the attacks.

He is guilty of treason and mass murder. And now, obstruction of justice

by attempting to use a federal judge and FBI agents to inhibit a

legitimate civil lawsuit in this country, in federal court. Even a chief

judge in this court tried to harass and threaten me personally for

representing legitimate plaintiffs. And they got Clinton for allegedly lying

under oath about Paula Jones and now - look what's happening now. And Ken

Starr used to be across from me in Duke Law School in the early `70s

and it´s interesting that he got away with trying to get Clinton

impeached, so we have a far worse criminal sitting in the oval office today -

somebody guilty of mass murder as well as obstruction of justice.

AJ: Well, I mean look, they say they never heard of a plan to fly

planes into buildings - said it all over television - Rice, Bush, Cheney,

Rumsfeld, Ashcroft. And then we find out they were running all these

drills that morning. Even if they weren't involved, that proves they were

liars about ever hearing of such a plan.

SH: Well, I'm trying to take their depositions - I've been trying to

take their depositions for months. They've been trying to object to it.

They will have to admit they were either lying then or now. It's clearly

perjury either way. They are liars and perjurers; that's what they are.

These are the people that we have running this government and, of

course, they knew about it. How are they going to claim now that they didn't

know about these drills? Their idea is that nobody knew anything. It's

the old know-nothing mentality. And how anybody considers this

believable is beyond me.

AJ: All right, now people ask how could a huge organization, how could

the AWACs, how could the military let this happen; whereas before, if

your Cessna got off course for five minutes, they would launch F-16s on

you. It's real simple. It's what Stanley Hilton said here a year and a

half ago. It's what came out in the news after that. The military, good

people, were told this was all a drill. And it was not a drill. And ABC

News admits that Cheney was in control of [?] out of the White House

[?] and that he ordered the military to quote "do something." Our inside

sources from Hilton and others say it was a stand down and they admit

they will not release that under national security. Stanley?

SH: Well they are going to admit it, they're going to release it in the

court case because if you demand it under subpoena powers and they must

release it. And part of our lawsuit is brought in the name of the U.S.

because under the federal fraudulent [Claims Act], we accuse the Bush

Administration of presenting a fraudulent claim to Congress. And under

the statutes of Title 31 of the U.S. code, they must release this

information. That's why they are trying to threaten me, harass me, invade my

office, steal my files, commit blatant obstruction of justice and other

crimes to try and prevent a legitimate civil suit from exposing these

criminals and their acts of treason and mass murder.

AJ: I think you need to publicly tell folks that you are not planning

suicide. Would you like to tell folks that?

SH: (laughs) I'm not planning suicide. I've got family and I'm not

planning that but I don't like the threats I'm under - but I can tell you

this, it's taking a toll emotionally on me and my staff. And

particularly, when you get a threat from the chief judge of your own court.

AJ: Why have you decided to go public again after a year of being under

the radar? SH: Because the more and more evidence that I've been

adducing over a year and a half has made it so obvious to me that this was

now without any doubt a government operation and that it amounts to the

biggest act of treason and mass murder in American history. I mean

George Bush makes Benedict Arnold look like a patriot. He makes Benedict

Arnold look like George Washington. I mean that's what we have - a

criminal and a traitor sitting in the White House pretending he's a patriot,

wrapping himself in the flag. And it's pretty disgusting because the

other side of the so-called opposition, the Kerry camp is just saying

nothing because they're afraid to speak.

AJ: Stay right there. We'll be right back.

BREAK

AJ: Stanley Hilton will be with us for another 15 or 16 minutes. Then

he's got to go into court. Bob Dole's former chief of staff, political

scientist, lawyer, represents 400 plus plaintiffs - most of them victims

of 9/11. When I was in New York last week, everybody I was talking to,

I mean 90 plus percent of them at ground zero - "I had family, I worked

in the buildings, my son's a Navy Seal - he called the night before and

said don't go to work." You know, all of this, and then now they never

had any idea - and it turns out they had all these drills - and one

drill of hijacked jets flying into the World Trade Center and Pentagon at

8:30 in the morning. That morning - come on people! And Stanley Hilton

brought all this out on this show before it was in the mainstream news.

And I was talking to him during the break. I mean, the harassment, the

moles, the threatening of his staff, the judge threatening him.

Stanley, let's get specifically into the documents that you have now got that

they have now been robbing you for, that you luckily, thank God had

copies. Specifically, Bush ordering this. Can you get into that for us -

ordering 9/11?

SH: National Security Council classified documents which [garbled] and

it's was part of a series of documents that were involved with the

drill documents. This was all planned - they had it on videotape. These

planes were controlled by remote control, as I stated previously a year

and a half ago, there's a system called Cyclops. There is a computer chip

in the nose of the plane and it enables the ground control, the

military ground control, to disable the pilot's control of the plane and to

control it and to fly it directly into those towers. That's what

happened. It's also a technology used on what's called the Global Hawk, which

is an aircraft drone - a remote- controlled aircraft. And they were

doing it. We are talking about National Security Council classified

documents that clearly indicated that [garbled] had a green light to order

this to go and this is no drill. These drills that were running were

clearly a dress rehearsal and this was a government operation. You wonder

why these people are trying to threaten people and trying to intimidate

people who have written this suit, I guess if you murdered 3000 of your

own citizens, in conjunction with the corrupt Royal family of Saudi

Arabia as Bush did. And if you then waste billions more on a worthless

garbage war in Iraq, I guess you've got something to worry about and you

want to threaten people to prevent it from coming out.

AJ: I mean let's look at this. Not only are there dress rehearsals,

they are smoke screens so the good military stands down and doesn't know

what's happening. But it's now coming out, even in mainstream news, that

yes these drills were going on. Yes, and some of these drills, quote,

passenger-type jets were under remote control - this is decades old

technology. In 1958, NORAD was [ ] old jets and using them for target

practice. Decades ago they flew jumbo jets from LA to Sidney Australia. So

since that's going on, everybody knows that. And it's the same MO. Just

like the first World Trade Center [bombing] where they get two retarded

men who followed this blind sheik who had a tiny mosque above a pizza

parlor. And they set them up as the patsies. Then the FBI cooks the

bomb, trains the drivers. This informant goes, "You're not going to bomb

the building? They go "Yeah, we're letting it go forward." He tapes them

to protect themselves. The two retarded gentlemen, thank God, didn't

park it up against the column, as the FBI instructed them to do, so it

didn't bring down the tower - because you have to be right up against the

column. That doesn't happen. Yet, it's the same thing with 9/11. You've

got these CIA agents, these Arabs, who were trained at U.S. military

bases, Pensacola Naval Air Station - mainstream media, out creating their

legends for this background. They're on board the aircraft. My military

sources say nerve gas kills everybody on board the plane - nerve gas

packets. Then they fly the planes into buildings. From your inside

sources, is that accurate?

SH: It's one of the things that we are looking into - that nerve gas or

something else disabled people. It's possible. I can't say for sure to

be honest with you

AJ: All you know is they were government agents and they were on board

and the planes were remote controlled.

SH: Yeah, it was basically a smokescreen. I mean, the events of the

hijackings, how someone snuck in those cutters, it was a plant. It was

like a classic decoy. I've got some military background. And it's called

decoy. It's a decoy operation. You make the people focus on the decoy to

avoid looking at the real criminals. So they are focusing on these

so-called nineteen hijackers and saying, "Oh, it must have been these

Arabs. When, in fact, the guilty person is at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue -

sitting in the oval office. That's the guilty person. That's the one who

authorized it. There is only one man who could have authorized this

operation and that's Bush. And anyone at NORAD will tell you as I have been

told personally at NORAD in the war control room, there is only one man

who has the power to do this kind of thing and that's Bush. Even though

many believe he's a puppet. And I think in many ways he is. The fact of

the matter is where was [ ] Cheney, Rumsfeld and these other traitors.

The fact is Bush personally ordered and he's guilty and liable and he's

going to be re-elected apparently because the media's asleep and

[garbled] for Bush.

AJ: Well, the media is owned by the same military industrial complex

that carried out the attacks.

SH: Yeah, the media is only interested in maintaining the official

government fantasy that this was a little lone Arab. These Arabs couldn't

even steer that plane down a runway.

AJ: Stay there Stanley, final segment coming up. BREAK

AJ: Mr. Hilton, when you talk to these FBI agents, when you talk to

these military men and women, what's their attitude? They've got to be

pretty freaked out to have the big picture and know what actually happened

on 9/11.

SH: Yes, you know it's like clouds just before a thunderstorm in the

sense that they are sort of pregnant with rage. They are just enraged at

the criminal politicians who have perverted and misused the government

to murder its own citizens and pursue these dubious political ends. And

many of them, in increasing numbers, are willing to talk and will talk

under subpoena - but only under subpoena because the official party

line of the government is shut up and don't talk to the trial lawyer. But

more and more, they are very outraged that part of the government has

done this to its own people, to its own people. I mean you have to go

back to Stalin to see something - not even Hitler did this to his own

people. You have to look at Stalin who murdered the Kulaks, the Russians

for his own dubious gains. Also we've got - we have a Stalinist

mentality in this country. And, if these people pose as patriots and wrap

themselves in the flag, it's disgusting. I wanted also to point out that the

Japanese television network, Asahi, is going to be airing a special on

primetime tomorrow, on September 11th. They interviewed me for eight

hours a couple of weeks ago. I'll be on that. I wish - of course, the

America media don't care so they are not going to care. But in Japan,

people are very serious in interviewing me and others. And we have a

website now, called deprogram.info, if more people are interested:

www.deprogram.info. But the other thing, I just wanted to say that if anything

happens to me - and I don't know why - because I'm being threatened here

now. And it seems you can't bring a case in this country anymore

against criminals in power without being threatened. And this is how they

operate. The stakes are pretty high when you've got a world historical

level of treason and fraud by this government against it's own people. I

guess this is what you have to expect.

AJ: Stanley, the globalists, the new world order crowd, definitely

intend to carry out more terror attacks. I know they would have carried out

more attacks if we wouldn't have done what we've been up to, if you

wouldn't have been out there boldly speaking out and many others. And then

their electronic Berlin wall has a bunch of cracks in it now. Thanks to

good people like yourself and many others who are speaking out and

telling the truth. But do you think that they may carry out what they've

been hyping - a suitcase nuke attack, a biological release to try to

smokescreen all of this? I know it's a catch 22, you've got to expose the

murderers. We've got to get the word out on this but some government

people that I've talk to say, "Yeah, but if you do that, they are going to

go even more hard core and must totally try to take over." But I say

regardless, they are already doing that. So what do you say to that?

SH: Well, yeah, I think they have an agenda. They have contingency

plans. I think they are laying low now because there are an increasing

number of people, like myself, who are openly challenging them and accusing

them of criminal conduct. I think they would have done it again if we

had not spoken up. I think they're planning, what they would like to do

is silence any dissenters. That's why we are trying to get the Patriot

Act declared unconstitutional in this lawsuit also.

AJ: Let's talk about polls. In the beginning a patriot is a scarce man,

hated and feared, but in time when his cause succeeds, the timid join

him, because then it costs nothing to be a patriot. You are one of those

guys who hit the barbwire for us, or figuratively jumped on the hand

grenade for America. But when you've got a Zogby poll, who is highly

respected, half of New Yorkers believe that the government was involved.

When you have a Canadian poll, 63% on average believe that the U.S.

government was involved. And some groups, as high as 76% in polls believe

the government was involved. European polls, two- thirds show the same

thing. We have German defense ministers and technology ministers and

another member of their government now, three of them going public, known

conservatives, and progressives. You have an environment minister,

Michael Meacher, saying that if they didn't do it, they sure as hell knew

what was going on. Look, if anybody who is a thinking person looks at the

evidence, their official story is impossible. Then you investigate and

they are involved in it. Comments to this massive awakening and what's

happening.

SH: Well, I think that's why they want the Patriot Act to suppress

political dissent. They have to, they're anticipating, they are not dumb

individuals. I know these people personally, Wolfowitz. These are

criminal individuals but they are smart and so they anticipated political

dissent. And that's why, like the Nazis, their forebears, and their blood

brothers, the Nazis and the Stalinists, they're all for political

repression. Every corrupt and criminal government has done this - they

suppress their own people: Nazi Germany, Communist Russia, Mao Tse-Tung,

that's why we have the Patriot Act. So it's hand in hand. They had it

planned to go right up to September 11th, this was all part of the plan. You

have to do it. It was part of my senior thesis. You must follow through

the terrorists attacks with a political suppression mechanism in the

law. And that's why they want Patriot I and Patriot II and their plans

are to continue launching more terrorist attacks to justify even more

repression. The goal is to make this a one party dictatorship in this

country, to pursue their dubious ends with their blood brothers like the

Saudi Royal family. And also, historical blood brothers, such as the Nazi

Germany and the Communist Russian. That's the goal

AJ: You've got to go in just a minute or two. But I wanted to also tell

you about New York. Sound cannons that are used in Iraq, they're

against us. Men in black ski masks. 41,000 police, accredited media being

arrested randomly. Children being arrested, people in wheelchairs, 2000

plus people put in a camp with barbwire fences inside with no bathrooms.

You had to have permission to go to the porta-potties. Police screaming

at you. It had nothing to do with terrorism. They are openly setting

the precedent for martial law.

SH: Well, that's right, the word terrorist is now being overly broad

and overly defined [garbled] and also, you know, it's like the word

communist was used for anything during the McCarthy witch hunt. And anybody

can be called a terrorist by Bush's definition. But the irony is that

the number one terrorist in the world is living at the White House at

the oval office today. That's the real irony. For sheer hypocrisy, I

think he deserves the world prize and ought to be in the Ripley book,

Believe It or Not, and the Guinness book of world records for sheer brazen

chicanery and fraud.

AJ: Let me ask you a question on this because this is the experience

that I had. Watching television, watching the killers, watching those

that are guilty, stand up there as our saviors is incredibly painful. It's

like watching Ted Bundy being the judge at his own trial. I mean it is

just painful to know who these people are. To see them putting America

in a shredder. Now we are going to have forced psychological testing of

every American, forced drugging, you know Pan-American unions, I mean

it's just all happening, it's in our face, Stanley.

SH: Yeah, it's very disturbing and as one who has studied the theory

and concept of dictatorships, I personally interviewed Albert Speer, who

was Hitler's armaments minister. I interviewed him in 1981 in Munich.

And I've studied the psychology and history of totalitarianism and there

is no question that it's very frightening. And it has, today, with high

technology, albeit for the first time in history, the chance of having

a world empire dominated by corrupt, technologically oriented

government - an elite government. And they've got now what people like Napoleon

and Hitler didn't have, which is the technological means to dominate

not only their own country but others - the world.

AJ: The answer is to expose them as the terrorists, to show how PNAC

[Project for the New American Century] said we need helpful Pearl Harbor

events, to show how Northwoods called for the exact 9/11-style attacks,

to show their own plans. And to force people to face this horror. What

are they going to do in a year or two when 80% of us, not half of us,

know the truth?

SH: Well, that's why they want repression and, then again, the ancient

old diversion, launch another terrorist attack to get people to pitch

it away. I mean who knows what they'll do next. I mean their capacity

for ingenious creation of these events is sort of unraveled. I mean there

is no limit. My guess is they are going to try another stunt - maybe a

stunt just before the election to justify getting Bush reelected.

Although it seems like he is running against a straw man or a ghost right

now, anyway. But, my guess is they'll try some other tactic to get

people's attention away from 9/11 if it gets to be too much attention. What

you really want is for the public to just lose interest because the

public - and it's like remember the Alamo, you know, people don't forget

things like that. To me it's like the Alamo, remember 9/11, that ought to

be the slogan for this outrageous act of treason. That's what it is.

It's not

AJ: We are at a crossroads, I don't think they anticipated this much

resistance, Stanley.

SH: Yeah, I hope they are truly wrong and as incompetent as they are

corrupt and guilty. That means their incompetence is exceeded only by

their corruption and their guilt. And eventually, if enough people are

going to get outraged enough, these people in the bureaucracy and in the

civil service and our military, and eventually we can get people under

subpoena these individuals will be exposed.

AJ: Stanley, their whole operation hinges on us being naïve and not

recognizing evil. This is what they got with Hitler and others. People

couldn't recognize evil so they continued to repeat succumbing to it. We

are recognizing it this time. We are putting our lives, our treasure,

our future on the line for freedom because we cannot let these

blood-thirsty control freak terrorists capture us and use us and turn us into the

empire and have a draft and use us as their slaves to invade the

planet. And that's their PNAC plan. Stanley Hilton, I know you've got to get

to court. God bless you. I want to thank you for being here with us

today. Can we get you back on next week?

SH: Sure, just give me a call.

AJ: God bless you my friend. Any closing comments?

SH: My closing comments would be, I think people ought to just think

about the consequence of having someone like Bush in the White House and

the danger for the future that these sorts of individuals pose. This is

not just a historical event of the past. This is part of the plan and

the camera is still rolling. They have an agenda. These individuals are

extremely dangerous. They are armed and dangerous. They pose a clear

and dangerous threat to every freedom-loving person not only American but

in the whole world.

AJ: You are absolutely right Stanley Hilton. They have captured the

government. They have not captured the peoples' minds and they are

counting on us not facing up to it.

SH: And they are counting on the repressive Patriot Act and threats and

chief judges and FBI agents threatening people who are exposing them.

That's what they are counting on.

AJ: But you're not backing down are you, my friend.

SH: No, I'm not

AJ: Well, we all stand with you, my brother, and God bless you.

SH: All right. Thank you.

dont forget the pre beerskis now in the beaches.. gotta check out the new pad know ya'll... very happy to see you guys again soon

np man... two cd's are burned and ready for ya.. see u Sat...

hey brother... u still down for Nero Saturday night? if so ive got the My Morning Jacket show for u on disc... figured since u cant dl ud enjoy receivin a present eh... pre show beerskis at my place as well.. i have to work till 4:30 and Leese and I are now in the Beeches... lemme know if anyone wants to swing by...

any idea of a cover or is it a freeebee?

way to go jakis... nice bounce back from week 1

im one to talk, i bounced back the wrong way!! Anyways, PM me what stuff ur lookin for and ill let ya know what i got... unfortunately no list but around a thousand or so hrs of live music... Like Moe.? Am listening to a nice matrix from back in 97 when they used to be good

actuallyive got a heady ride... Leese's folks car its just no money for gas or cover or beverages... kinda sh!tty... ive got a few dollars set aside for Saturday here... as well if anyone wants to come down... i'll be doin er up for my birthday on the 29th at the Xavier Rudd show at the Horseshoe... tickets still available for $10.

now thats more like it.. Thanks Mike... im definately in agreeance that this is a great young band with tonnes of potential!

well i think i openned my mouth a little early last night without thinkin... dont think the money's gonna hold out for this with Toronto on Saturday... sorry brother...

ya but ur an old man with major memory failure so im pretty happy that ur able to get to the 4 minute mark... good on ya Booche...

now did enyone else enjoy the Groove?

Has the contest closed? i'm feelin lucky

in.... Cowboy im thinkin i need that van sleep space hookup... ive got my ride and will be up in the afternoon sometime... gimmie a call bro...

the New Shady Groove tonight?

and on a side note... nero setlist and how did the boys sound tonight? lookin forward to Thursday in Peterborough...