Jaimoe Posted December 7, 2006 Report Share Posted December 7, 2006 The great thing about baseball, is despite all the spending and all the percieved "major" vs. "minor" market teams, there is so much parity that any team can win the World Series in any year. True, but not in the case of the Royals. Meche may not want to live in a big city, but he showed his true colours by not signing with a contender when the dough was offered. The Royals are the worst team in all of baseball, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afro poppa Posted December 7, 2006 Report Share Posted December 7, 2006 The great thing about baseball' date=' is despite all the spending and all the percieved "major" vs. "minor" market teams, there is so much parity that any team can win the World Series in any year. [/quote']True, but not in the case of the Royals. Meche may not want to live in a big city, but he showed his true colours by not signing with a contender when the dough was offered. The Royals are the worst team in all of baseball, period.Yea the Royals will definately not win this year, however, lets say the pull a Tigers and each and every one of their young players develops and has a career year in the same season, say 2 years down the road. Maybe Meche earns that money and becomes an ace (he is "young") and the Royals also have Luke Hudson and Zach Grienke...they could easily pull a Bonderman/Verlander/Maroth type season...or maybe not...yea...definately not.haha never mindsilly Meche Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djmelbatoast Posted December 7, 2006 Report Share Posted December 7, 2006 (edited) The great thing about baseball, is despite all the spending and all the percieved "major" vs. "minor" market teams, there is so much parity that any team can win the World Series in any year. Case in point the fact that for the past 6 years (or 7?) there has been a different team win the championship and many of them have been teams with "small" payrolls: Marlins, Angels, D-Backs, White Sox etc...This would be a good point if it were true.There is parity in the leauge between the top 10 teams any given year.Florida payrollIvan Rodriguez $ 10,000,000 Luis Castillo $ 4,850,000 Derrek Lee $ 4,250,000 Mike Lowell $ 3,700,000 Juan Encarnacion $ 3,450,000 A.J. Burnett $ 2,500,000 Mark Redman $ 2,150,000 Brad Penny $ 1,875,000 Josh Beckett $ 1,725,000 Alex Gonzalez $ 1,700,000 Braden Looper $ 1,600,000 Todd Hollandsworth $ 1,500,000 Carl Pavano $ 1,500,000 Vladimir Nunez $ 1,400,000 Mike Redmond $ 1,050,000 Juan Pierre $ 1,000,000 Andy Fox $ 800,000 Lenny Harris $ 800,000 Armando Almanza $ 775,000 Mike Mordecai $ 500,000 Gerald Williams $ 325,000 Brian Banks $ 300,000 Ramon Castro $ 300,000 Blaine Neal $ 300,000 Tommy Phelps $ 300,000 Tim Spooneybarger $ 300,000 Michael Tejera $ 300,000 Justin Wayne $ 300,000 Dontrelle Willis $ 234,426 Miguel Cabrera $ 165,574 Arizona payrollRandy Johnson $ 13,350,000 Matt Williams $ 9,000,000 Jay Bell $ 8,050,000 Curt Schilling $ 6,500,000 Steve Finley $ 5,375,000 Luis Gonzalez $ 4,833,333 Brian Anderson $ 4,125,000 Tony Womack $ 4,000,000 Matt Mantei $ 3,583,333 Mark Grace $ 3,000,000 Greg Swindell $ 2,533,333 Armando Reynoso $ 2,000,000 Russ Springer $ 1,700,000 Greg Colbrunn $ 1,600,000 Reggie Sanders $ 1,500,000 Damian Miller $ 1,250,000 Byung-Hyun Kim $ 762,500 Mike Morgan $ 700,000 Danny Bautista $ 675,000 Bobby Witt $ 500,000 Midre Cummings $ 425,000 Miguel Batista $ 400,000 David Dellucci $ 325,000 Erubiel Durazo $ 260,000 Rod Barajas $ 208,000 Nick Bierbrodt $ 200,000 Califonia payrollTim Salmon $ 9,650,000 Kevin Appier $ 9,500,000 Aaron Sele $ 7,166,667 Darin Erstad $ 6,250,000 Troy Percival $ 5,250,000 Garret Anderson $ 5,000,000 Brad Fullmer $ 4,000,000 Troy Glaus $ 4,000,000 Scott Spiezio $ 2,275,000 Alan Levine $ 1,325,000 Dennis Cook $ 1,250,000 Orlando Palmeiro $ 1,000,000 Ramon Ortiz $ 575,000 Jorge Fabregas $ 500,000 Benji Gil $ 400,000 Adam Kennedy $ 375,000 Bengie Molina $ 350,000 Jarrod Washburn $ 350,000 Scott Schoeneweis $ 325,000 Donne Wall $ 300,000 David Eckstein $ 280,000 Lou Pote $ 255,000 Shawn Wooten $ 250,000 Jose Nieves $ 240,000 Ben Weber $ 240,000 Jeff Davanon $ 207,500 Mark Lukasiewicz $ 207,500 Chicago payrollPaul Konerko $ 8,750,000 Jose Contreras $ 8,500,000 Freddy Garcia $ 8,000,000 Frank Thomas $ 8,000,000 Mark Buehrle $ 6,000,000 Jermaine Dye $ 4,000,000 Carl Everett $ 4,000,000 Orlando Hernandez $ 3,500,000 Jon Garland $ 3,400,000 Shingo Takatsu $ 2,500,000 Tadahito Iguchi $ 2,300,000 A.J. Pierzynski $ 2,250,000 Juan Uribe $ 2,150,000 Dustin Hermanson $ 2,000,000 Aaron Rowand $ 2,000,000 Luis Vizcaino $ 1,300,000 Damaso Marte $ 1,250,000 Timo Perez $ 1,000,000 Cliff Politte $ 1,000,000 Scott Podsednik $ 700,000 Chris Widger $ 500,000 Joe Crede $ 400,000 Willie Harris $ 365,000 Ross Gload $ 335,000 Neal Cotts $ 330,000 Pablo Ozuna $ 330,000 These aren't lightweight line-ups they just aren't as overpaid as the Yanks and Red Sox. Edited December 7, 2006 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afro poppa Posted December 7, 2006 Report Share Posted December 7, 2006 championship and many of them have been teams with "small" payrolls: Marlins' date=' Angels, D-Backs, White Sox etc...[/quote']These aren't lightweight line-ups they just aren't as overpaid as the Yanks and Red Sox.hence why I put it the "small" in quotes...they aren't small, but comparitively speaking they areand at the begining of the year, not one of those teams were predicted to win it all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djmelbatoast Posted December 7, 2006 Report Share Posted December 7, 2006 Arizona was, but at the midway point of the season it became clear that each of these teams was a serious contender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afro poppa Posted December 7, 2006 Report Share Posted December 7, 2006 yea...but they were surprisesall I am saying is that sure the typical teams will always be there (Yanks, Boston, Braves (except for last year), Cards, etc there are always one or teams that surprise and make a good run... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djmelbatoast Posted December 7, 2006 Report Share Posted December 7, 2006 I understand what you're saying.My point is that there is not pairity in the leauge but only among the top 10-12 teams. It's a two-tiered leauge. Noone may have expected those teams to win but everyone expected them to be a contender for a playoff spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afro poppa Posted December 7, 2006 Report Share Posted December 7, 2006 ahh I see what your saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberdinghy Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 The Globe and Mail reports that the Toronto Blue Jays have made a formal contract offer to outfielder Vernon Wells.According to another report on Yahoo!, it is a seven year deal worth $126 million US. If signed, the contract would be the sixth-richest in baseball history, behind only Alex Rodriguez ($252 million), Derek Jeter ($189 million), Manny Ramirez ($160 million), Todd Helton ($141.5 million) and Alfonso Soriano ($136 million). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badams Posted December 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 The Globe and Mail reports that the Toronto Blue Jays have made a formal contract offer to outfielder Vernon Wells.According to another report on Yahoo!, it is a seven year deal worth $126 million US. If signed, the contract would be the sixth-richest in baseball history, behind only Alex Rodriguez ($252 million), Derek Jeter ($189 million), Manny Ramirez ($160 million), Todd Helton ($141.5 million) and Alfonso Soriano ($136 million). WOW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberdinghy Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 KAZOW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chameleon Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 The Globe and Mail reports that the Toronto Blue Jays have made a formal contract offer to outfielder Vernon Wells.According to another report on Yahoo!, it is a seven year deal worth $126 million US. If signed, the contract would be the sixth-richest in baseball history, behind only Alex Rodriguez ($252 million), Derek Jeter ($189 million), Manny Ramirez ($160 million), Todd Helton ($141.5 million) and Alfonso Soriano ($136 million). I don't care how well you catch a ball, no one is worth 125 mil.Insane!SO who is gonna get baseball's first 200 million contract!?!When will it end!??!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booche Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 SO who is gonna get baseball's first 200 million contract!?!I'll bet you 50$ Arod gets it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimoe Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 SO who is gonna get baseball's first 200 million contract!?!I'll bet you 50$ Arod gets it.A-Rod's current contract is 10 years at $252 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booche Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 You owe me 50$ Jaimoe, ya dumbass. I could have suckered him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chameleon Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 You owe me 50$ Jaimoe, ya dumbass. I could have suckered him! Shows how much I actually follow baseball anymore. Mostly due to the fact it has disolved into a game where millionaires (players) fight with billionaires (owners) over more money. The fans always lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal Johnson Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 It seems they've offered Wells 123 mil over 7 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booche Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 Shows how much I actually follow baseball anymore. Or how much you read what you quote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal Johnson Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 I gotta scroll to to the top more often too.If Wells turns this down will evryone boo him relentlessly for the rest of his career? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimoe Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 You owe me 50$ Jaimoe, ya dumbass. I could have suckered him!As if Chameleon has that kind of scratch. He can't even afford a spell-checker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chameleon Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 You owe me 50$ Jaimoe' date=' ya dumbass. I could have suckered him![/quote']As if Chameleon has that kind of scratch. He can't even afford a spell-checker.Stop hatin' I got a spell checker for firefox. Now if I can only use it correctly...Hmmm.. sorry guys my main skillsets involve music history, music theory and recreational chemistry... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afro poppa Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 I think this is great, we need to keep Wells. If we don't it will be a huge step-back for an organization that is only a few steps away from winning for real. I say give Wells as much as he wants, he is one of the few players in the game that are actually worth it...he is a 5-tool player, great club house guy, and just an all around good person. Unlike Soriano, who is only a 4 tool guy at best (some might say a 3-tool, he definately can't play defense, and does he even have an arm?), and he is a complete and total head case. Good for the Jays to offer up a serious contract offer to a player who deserves it.Looks like we are gonna trade Reed Johnson me thinks and put Adam Lind in the field for good...I think Reed and a pitching prospect could land us a better starter than we would've gotten on the free agent market.As far as not following baseball anymore because of the contracts, would you rather the Jays not pay any money and lose all the freakin time? Jeez, they can't win with some fair-weather fans... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badams Posted December 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 Looks like Wells is going to sign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booche Posted December 15, 2006 Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 Wow. I did not expect him to do that. Sure, it seems like a ton of cash to us but it appears as though he was good to his word. Impressive but I must say that I really hate the money in baseball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badams Posted December 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 I hope it happens. Wells said all the right things this year and now the Jays have lived up to their end of the bargain. I will be very happy if Wells does as well. I hate the money in all pro sports but agree that baseball has gotten completly out of hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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