Booche Posted August 30, 2003 Report Share Posted August 30, 2003 By the way, sorry I havent seen too many of you folks lately. I was away working at other buildings the past week and a half, and my home pc pooched on me on Monday night. Looks like the CPU is CaPUt. Oh well, the timing is decent, with all the over-time I put in this week. It was tough to get online, and check my work email, I'll tell you what. Anyways, I missed some of you, most though, I couldnt have given two shits. SecondTube, I put an offer on the table for ya, but havent been able to see my email with the address I sent, so call me on Tuesday night (613-521-9511) if you were/are interested. I know it wasnt much, but it was meant. And Jon, I have that one, but the sound quality aint so great (hmm, I may have given it away, come to think of it). The energy level is through the roof though! If I have it, I'll send it to you and you can figure out if you want to keep it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esau Posted August 30, 2003 Report Share Posted August 30, 2003 7/26/72Paramount Theatre, Portalnd,OR Disc 1 1st Set 1. Cold Rain & Snow 2. "Mexican Hat Dance" tuning 3. Black Throated Wind 4. Half-Step 5. Mexicali Blues 6. Sugaree 7. El Paso 8. China Cat Sunflower> 9. I Know You Rider 10.Jack Straw Disc 2 1. Tennessee Jed 2. Playin' in the Band 3. Ca//sey Jones 2nd Set 4. Promised Land 5. He's Gone 6. Me & My Uncle 7. You Win Again 8. Greatest Story Ever Told 9. Ramble On Rose Disc 3 1. Dark Star> 2. Comes A Time 3. Sugar Magnolia 4. Brown //Eyed Women Disc 4 1. Beat It On Down the Line 2. Stella Blue 3. NFA> 4. GDTRFB> 5. NFA Encore 6. OMSN 1972-05-04 Olympia Theater, Paris, France Set 1: Greatest Story Ever Told Deal Mr. Charlie Beat it on Down the Line Brown Eyed Women Chinatown Shuffle Playing in the Band You Win Again Hurts Me Too He's Gone El Paso Big Railroad Blues Two Souls In Communion Casey Jones Set 2: Good Lovin' Next Time You See Me Ramble On Rose Jack Straw Dark Star drums Dark Star Sugar Magnolla Sing Me Back Home Mexicali Blues Big Boss Man Uncle John's Band Not Fade Away Goin' Down the Road Feeling Bad Not Fade Away Encore: One More Saturday Night Those would be my personal favorites. Then again I have never heard a GD show I wasnt impressed with,some more then others,but always satisfied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamH Posted August 30, 2003 Report Share Posted August 30, 2003 Number two there is a good choice, mine is in shite quality though. same with 5/3/72 Agreed. They're all good in their own way and 5/8/77 never happened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolarGarlic Posted August 30, 2003 Report Share Posted August 30, 2003 Alright!! some 72, '73 discussion!!! 60's to '73 was the absolute (in my opinion) peak of the GD...Here is what Dick has to say (long) about the '72, '73 era: (sorry for the poor layout...) Dick Latvala - 12:28am Sep 7, 1997 PDT (#305 of 308) > O.K. I have finally gotten some of my thoughts down for 1972 (actually > the second half of the year, since there are too many > unknowns during the first half!). What follows are basically my notes, > and shouldn't be considered as anything other than initial > thoughts. The only reason that I'm doing this, is to stimulate other > opinions, which then, will hopefully give a more comprehensive account of this exciting, and most clearly fundamental period in G.D. history. This era stands alone in its > uniqueness, and along with the whole year of 1973, we have the two > most intense periods in G.D. history. There's lots more to be discovered. > > 1 The month of July is pretty un-eventful, outside of the "Truckin'-> > Other > One-> Jam" and "Not Fade Away->GDTRFB" > from 7/16/72- Hartford, Ct. > > 2) The first examples of exceptional playing begin to occur at the > B.C.T. > run in August. The 'Dark Stars" from 8/21 and 8/24 > are enormous. I need to re-listen to the 8/22 show, but it seems to me > that > the show from 8/24 might be the winner here. I > haven't ever heard the 8/25 show. 3) Now we get to the most over-rated > show > in G.D. history, outside of 5/8/77- Ithaca, > N.Y., of course! This show from Eugene (8/27/72) has some exciting > playing > (Playing in the Band, Bird Song, China > Cat->Rider and the Dark Star jam) but it doen't hold up as a whole > show. > There are many better examples where the playing > is more consistently strong throughout the show.(These shows include > 9/21, > 9/23, 9/24, 9/26, 9/27, 9/28, and 10/18) > > 4) The shows from early September (9/3, 9/9, 9/10, 9/15, 9/16, 9/17 > and > 9/19) don't have much to offer when compared to > the above mentioned nights. I should mention that the "jam" segments > of > each of these nights is very exciting. 5) Now to the > really exceptional material. First up is 9/21/72- Philadelphia > Spectrum. > This show is one of my favorite shows ever. This > version of "Dark Star->Morning Dew" might be the best one! (there is a > jam > segment that is very unique and thrilling, and one > that I don't really think that I have ever heard before.) The "Not > Fade > Away->GDTRFB->NFA" is another delicious morsel > from this power packed evening. Each song is well played and worthy of > attention. I think the other major highlights are "Sugar > Magnolia", "Bird Song", "Loser", "Playing in the Band", "Truckin", and > "Cumberland Blues". > > 6) The 2 shows at Waterbury, Ct. on 9/23&24, are both major highlight > shows > from this era. The 9/23 show has the last, and > very exciting version of "That's it for the Other One" (I don't > consider > the attempts in 1985 to be worthy of mentioning in this > class). "China Cat->Rider" and "Playing in the Band" are both the > cream > from the first set, which is very good. The 2nd set has > another highlight besides the above mentioned one, and that is the > opening > and closing pieces, which are both a bit unusual. > "Promised Land->Bertha->Greatest Story Ever Told" starts the 2nd set > off > with a rocket. The night closes with very exciting > versions of each song in this very unique arrangement: "Sugar > Magnolia->GDTRFB->NFA->Saturday Night". The next night > features outstanding versions of "Playing in the Band" and "Dark > Star". The > jam segment, just before "China Cat Sunflower" > begins, is worth any effort to hear. > > 7) The 3 nights at the Stanley Theater, in Jersey City, N.J. on > 9/26->28, > comprise a run of three nights in a row that probably > have never been equaled. I tend to favor the middle night (9/27), but > really each could be a release on it's own. I'll save > blabbering about the particulars this time, since these three should > be > heard in their virgin state, and then you can each form > your own conclusions without previous bias. > > 8) The next most exciting show, is the middle night of the run of > three at > the fabulous Fox Theater, in St. Louis, Mo. , October > 18, 1972. It took me awhile to hear this show correctly, but now it is > a > clear example of one of the very best, with a couple of > unusual and unique treats within the "jam" > > > Dick Latvala - 12:32am Sep 7, 1997 PDT (#306 of 308) > > 8) The next most exciting show, is the middle night of the run of > three at > the fabulous Fox Theater, in St. Louis, Mo. , October > 18, 1972. It took me awhile to hear this show correctly, but now it is > a > clear example of one of the very best, with a couple of > unusual and unique treats within the "jam" segment before "Morning > Dew". > The show from 10/2/72, at Springfield, Ma. is one > of those that deserves to be heard a few more times, and may achieve > the > levels of 10/18/72. > > 9) Something happened at the 10/21/72 show at Vanderbuilt Univ. that > accounts for why we don't have any good tapes from > this period of 10/21 thru December of 1972. Bear told me a story about > how > a major piece of recording equipment got stolen > on 10/21, and basically disrupted the taping of shows for the rest of > the > year, other than 3 shows at Winterland in Dec. But > what is available is pretty good! For me the highlights are the 2nd > sets > from 10/24, 10/26 and 10/28. Phil is the key for these > nights. He gets into a unique, thematic and most thrilling type of > jamming, > that me and David Gans have called the "philo > stomp". There are at least a couple examples of this during November, > but > more listening is necessary. The 2nd sets from the 2 > shows in Oklahoma were very exciting. On 11/14, there is a most > satisfying > transition from "He's Gone" into "Truckin", that > basically is a great "Other One" tease. Another treat is the actual > entrance into "The Other One". On the following night there > wasn't really a jam that comprises the bulk of the 2nd sets. The > playing > was very good, with worthy versions of "Playing in the > Band", "Sugar Magnolia", and the "Not Fade Away->GDTRFB->NFA" closer. > > 10) In Wichita (11/17), one of the best shows, of this period > occurred. > Garcia is playing with gusto and originality thru-out the > show. :"Bird Song" and "Sugar Magnolia" are the highpoints outside of > the > real goods delivered in the jam: > "Truckin->jam->The Other One->jam->The Other One->Brokedown Palace". > (the > "jam" segments contain lengthy and very > unique playing.) > > 11) The last 5 shows in Texas, are each worth getting. The quality is > not > so hot, but the playing is ferocious. On 11/18, in > Houston, there is a major, top 10 of all-time, version of "Playing in > the > Band". (I am starting to think that this period has > possibly the most intense versions ever for this defining piece of > music.) > The show on the following night (11/19) is one of the > most exciting shows over-all, from this southern tour. There is a > "jam" > segment before "Miss.1/2 step..", that contains several > distinct, and very unique themes, including the "philo stomp", > "weather > report" theme, a brain-fry, and a very lengthy bass solo! > The 2nd set jam from 11/22-Austin, is tremendous. It goes like this: > "He's > Gone->Truckin->jam->drum solo->The Other > One->jam->bass solo->The Other One->Stella Blue". This version of > "He's > Gone" is one of the top 10 attempts ever. It is > long and drawn out, and there is a nice long space before "Truckin", > that > consists of pleasing variations on the "He's Gone" > theme. This version of "Truckin" is exceptional in that it has a > lengthy > section at the end that relentlessly builds and builds till > there seems to be no recourse but "The Other One". Instead, they opt > for a > "drum solo", which comes to a complete stop, and > then Phil takes over and off we go into a long and treat-filled > exploration > of "The Other One". (The first verses don't start until > after about 30 min.) There are more highlights to this show. The > versions > of "Black-throated Wind", "China Cat->Rider", "Bird > Song", "Playing in the Band", "Greatest Story", "Big River", "Ramble > on > Rose", "Sugar Magnolia", and "Saturday Night" each > are notable and help define what an exciting show we have here. The > San > Antonio (11/26) show has a great "Dark Star" that > has a nice bass solo and thrilling jam("tighten up"), among other > treats. > Another of those unusual medleys to end this one: > "Sugar Magnolia->GDTRFB->Saturday Night". > > 12) I hav > > Dick Latvala - 12:34am Sep 7, 1997 PDT (#307 of 308) > > 12) I haven't yet heard 12/12/72- Winterland, but I can say with some > confidence that the performances on the previous 2 > nights were nothing to write home about. Poor is how I described them. > Long > Beach (12/15) was another matter. Although I > don't think of it in the same class as the shows at the end of > November, it > does contain some excellent playing in the 2nd set > jam that is highlighted by a long "jam" section that follows > "Truckin", > which contains some improvisational jamming that is > especially unique, and then comes "Dark Star"! Sounds great, right? > Unfortunately the only part that one notices as "Dark Star" > are the lyrics. As soon as the words are over, the playing resumes in > the > unique style that preceeded "Dark Star". This very > interesting part continues for many minutes before the chords of > "Morning > Dew" become apparent. > > Well, that brings us to the end of a most prolific and thrilling year. > I > imagine that it would have been impossible to forsee what > an exciting year of music was next in store! > > Dick Latvala - 12:40am Sep 7, 1997 PDT (#308 of 308) > > Now I shall go back and read this topics postings, since near the end > of > August, which is the last time that I have read here. I > think that I have to get completely away from this from time to time! > I > intend to then answer the questions that are the most > Hopefully this will occur sometime in the near future! > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esau Posted August 30, 2003 Report Share Posted August 30, 2003 Thanks for that SG, I will need that sorta. Oh man.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolarGarlic Posted August 30, 2003 Report Share Posted August 30, 2003 ha. That is pretty much THE outline of shows to hear in '72. Ive heard the entire Euro run from the spring/summer of that year, and although I love it to death, I think the fall run of shows stomps it down....I would also HIGHLY recommend the series of 16-track recordings from '69. GDlive has a bunch but the dates escape me...there are a few runs throughout the year that have STELLAR sound for this era (or many others really) and the playing is so raw you're almost transported back in time...very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esau Posted August 30, 2003 Report Share Posted August 30, 2003 yeah I have the complete spring>summer run,although I am trying to get em all on CD now,I know about that 69 stuff have a box load of cassettes I have been goin through for the last month tracking down them on CD.... Just got the burner about a month ago,first time with a computer I can do this on,need to catch up. 400 cassettes or so...thats alot of catchin up. 33 shows was just a tease I guess for me...wish I had started touring after my first show in 84..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven_Space Posted August 31, 2003 Report Share Posted August 31, 2003 Everyone do yourself a favor - if you don't have 3/1/69 get this show. It is one of the best non-73 shows in existence. People go all ga-ga about 74, but I prefer 73. The jams are nuts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esau Posted August 31, 2003 Report Share Posted August 31, 2003 03.01.69 is very sweet show,I had it goin the other day,had been awhile,I must say. Gotta love the straight on run through some serious jamming on that show..... Dupree's> Mountains Of The Moon, Dark Star> St. Stephen> The Eleven That run makes my head spin...mountians,gotta love it. Mentioning mountians,I remember I got to see TC play that tune on the harpsichord back in the early 90's at the old odeon theater in Hamilton here,crazy shit,got to chat with em about music and life in general,bought me a beer.Great guy,very deep at times from what I got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamH Posted August 31, 2003 Report Share Posted August 31, 2003 Here here. I can't remember if I had that on my list but HERE HERE! And actually, 2-28-69 is also a frickin' fantastic show. I'm gonna put it on right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blane Posted August 31, 2003 Report Share Posted August 31, 2003 I've always been more of a 72-74 guy than a 69-72 guy, though I've had the argument a thousand times. I just prefer the jazzy stuff with one drummer. Now, I've posted this before, but i'll try again. Does anyone have this show on cd? I've nearly worn out my analogs now. Orpheum Theatre, San Francisco, CA 7/18/76 - SET 1 One Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodeloo, Cassidy, Row Jimmy, Mama Tried, Scarlet Begonias, Looks Like Rain, Tennessee Jed, New Minglewood Blues, Loser, Music Never Stopped, SET 2 Might As Well, Samson And Delilah, Candyman, Lazy Lightnin' > Supplication > Let It Grow > Drums > Let It Grow > Jam > Wharf Rat > Space Jam > Drums > The Other One > Saint Stephen > Not Fade Away > Saint Stephen > The Wheel > The Other One > Stella Blue , Sugar Magnolia Encore: Johnny B. Goode Gotta have that 2nd set! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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