Hux Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 While I'm now a non-partisan practitioner of government relations, Liberal supporters on the board will be happy with this news... With no party leadership convention I tend to think the "honeymoon" effect is less of a factor...also considering Ignatieff has just started to get out there, things look promising for Liberals in the post-Dion era. I expect the Conservative image assassination advertising machine to begin any moment. Ignatieff vaults Liberals into tie with Tories: poll Updated Fri. Jan. 9 2009 3:12 PM ET The Canadian Press OTTAWA -- A new poll suggests the Liberal party has bounced back into contention now that Michael Ignatieff is at the helm. The Nanos Research survey, provided exclusively to The Canadian Press, suggests the Liberals have moved into a virtual tie with the governing Tories. Liberal support stood at 34 per cent, one point ahead of the Conservatives and up eight points from the Liberals' dismal showing in the Oct. 14 election under the leadership of Stephane Dion. The poll suggests the Liberal resurgence was particularly pronounced in Quebec, where the party vaulted into the lead with 39 per cent support to 29 per cent for the Bloc Quebecois, 17 per cent for the Tories and 14 per cent for the NDP. The telephone poll of 1,003 Canadians was conducted Jan. 3-7 and is considered accurate within 3.1 percentage points 19 times in 20. A voter honeymoon with Ignatieff, who was hastily installed as leader last month, appeared to be the driving force behind the Liberal bounce. Thirty-four per cent of respondents said they had a more favourable impression of the party since the change in leadership. Moreover, 23 per cent said Ignatieff would make the best prime minister -- double the score previously won by Dion, although still 12 points behind Prime Minister Stephen Harper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmoothedShredder Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 I think moreso, after hearing Ignatieff speak in Halifax, he's saying the right things. Atleast he's a leader with his eye's open, and in reality in the now... he's going to be great for the Canadian Political System, and hopefully for Canada as a whole. Looks like it will be one big infrastructure party if Iggy gets elected. He's definately going to force Harper to try to be a better leader... something the other party heads didn't instill in him yet (he's good enough by default with that gong show in Ottawa). Too bad the Liberal party itself wasn't astute enough to elect Ignatieff the Leader in the first place two years ago. Barack got it without running a slander campaign... I hope Iggy takes a cue from that... you don't need one, unless you're worried you can't actually do the job without bringing the other side down a notch. Which incidentally means bringing down your fellow Canadians... I can understand regional parties like the Conservatives or the Bloc doing it, but so called National Parties? It just re-enforces why is sucks to be "Canadian". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgnor Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 They are both Harvard 'alumni' if I'm not mistaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmoothedShredder Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 You're talking about Obama and Iggy right?My Godfather is a Harvard alumni too. A smarter, gentler, 6'4" Newfie you will not find. Though he probably couldn't start a campfire to save his life!"Every threat is an opportunity""Hate is a strong word""Before we can have free-trade, we have to have fair-trade"oh man, the pearls of wisdom this guy has given to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgnor Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 I was, it seems like an opportunity for harmony to me. Your Grandpa sounds like a good guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaggyBalls Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 (Godfather, TB) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgnor Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Not paying attention, sorry... my bad. Still sounds like a good guy. Must've been that good old drug-induced dyslexia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmoothedShredder Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Hehe, yeah, I can only imagine what an angry(er) bugger I would of turned out to be without him.He's one year Bob Cole's junior and went to the same grade and high school as him... Bob was apparently quite the ladies man!My Godfather (the Newfoundland tennis champion in 1960) also taught Danny Williams at tennis camp... says he was always the kid who would throw a tantrum when he lost, and would hit the ball over the fence.He's met Iggy on several occasions, as he lives in his riding. He thinks Iggy is too much of a politicians politician for his liking... but in light about how he feels about politicians in general, hasn't really put Iggnatieff down too much, which is probably as much as a 'seal of approval' as he can get.I'm just glad Iggy is saying the things that may actually get him elected (i.e. "I want to work with the current government to solve the current ecconomic crisis"), as opposed to "everyone hates harper, so lets do whatever it takes to steal power" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaggyBalls Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Don't we need a politicians' politician to fix politics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
can-o-phish Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 In my opinion Dion dropped the ball upon immediately becoming head of the Liberal Party. As I've said in other topics, it would have been in his best interest to do exactly what Iggy is doing now...rolling up his sleeves and doing the "town hall" thing across Canada; to give people insight to who he is and listen to their concerns; to rebuild peoples' faith in politics and the Liberal Party after the "Scandal"...Dion took over a party that was opposition to a Minority government which meant that sooner than later an election would happen and the Conservatives would be looking for a majority government...Dion should have started his campaign the minute he became leader but he didn't...So far Iggy seems to be on the right path and I hope for the Liberal Party and our country's sake that he continues on this path... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hux Posted January 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Hindsight reveals that Dion's one and only chance was to bring down the Conservatives hours after winning the leadership IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaggyBalls Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Hindsight also reveals that a leader can't expect Canadians to be as smart as him/her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hux Posted January 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 No that's foresight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaggyBalls Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 no that's *also* foresight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgnor Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 calm before da storm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
can-o-phish Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 Ignatieff & the Libs are taking a stand on proposed tax cuts that might be part of the "new & improved Con-budget"... Their stance...No Frickin' Way... Liberals won't back tax cuts Polls, for what they're worth, are showing that the Libs have almost caught up to the Cons since Iggy has taken the helm... Looking forward to Jan 26th and all the fun that follows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgnor Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 (edited) Who wants some muddy water?Constitutional experts advise Governor General to call on the oppositionTORONTO, January 23, 2009 -- Academic constitutional experts are publicly advising the Governor General to call on the leader of the opposition to attempt to form a government if the Conservatives are defeated on a non-confidence vote. The advice appears in an open letter signed by thirty-five law professors and political scientists from universities across Canada following a December poll that revealed widespread confusion among Canadians about the basic rules of Canada’s constitutional system. The expert letter points out that democratic legitimacy in our system is based on the principle of responsible government, which requires that a Cabinet have the support of the House of Commons to govern. If that support is lost, the Governor General is no longer bound by the advice of the Prime Minister and may either call on another leader to form a government or dissolve Parliament for an election. As the majority of members of the House of Commons have provided assurances of their support for a government led by the leader of the opposition, the constitutional scholars advise that “It is our opinion that in the event of a non-confidence vote or a request for dissolution of Parliament after only 13 sitting days of the House of Commons, the Governor General would be well-advised to call the leader of the opposition to attempt to form a governmentâ€. The letter with the full list of signatories is available at: www.constitutionacts.blogspot.com.Professors available for media interviews:Barbara CameronPolitical Science, York UniversityErrol MendesLaw, University of OttawaCharles-Maxime PanaccioLaw, University of OttawaPeter RussellPolitical Science (University Professor Emeritus)University of TorontoBruce RyderOsgoode Hall Law SchoolJeremy Webber,Canada Research Chair in Law and SocietyUniversity of Victoria,Margot YoungLaw, University of British ColumbiaYork University Media Relations . Fax: 416-736-5779 . Address: York University, West Office Building, 4700 Keele St., Toronto, ON Edited January 23, 2009 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
can-o-phish Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Can't wait for Monday when the soap opera "Life On The Hill" returns to our somewhat regularily scheduled programming...Next Episode:L'il Stevie Harper has nowhere to run if his budget is voted down; Iggy carefully weighs his options while Jackie Layton unveils his new plot to take his party on a coalition cruise... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaggyBalls Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 I heard on CBC today that Obama and Harper talked on the phone.Stevie and Barry talked about the economy, auto industry, and their upcoming visit.I guess our Prime Minister can't make good conversation...or CBC can't make the news interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgnor Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Now would seem to be a good time for Mike to make a few meager demands on things such as ethical/moral issues (Khadr) and transparancy issues (campaign slander) before the budget comes down. Make a little hay out of the improvements down south, however shallow they may be, before an election, ya'know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaggyBalls Posted January 24, 2009 Report Share Posted January 24, 2009 I bet Iggy and Barry could make some immense world change if they teamed up together....presuming that other world leaders would like Mr. Ignatieff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgnor Posted January 25, 2009 Report Share Posted January 25, 2009 Seems to me that McGuinty and Harper shouldn't have too much to argue about considering it takes them each three months to react to a crisis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
can-o-phish Posted January 25, 2009 Report Share Posted January 25, 2009 It seems absurd that the government should have to step in and try to resolve this issue...Both sides willing to negotiate and reach an amicable agreement would seem to be something that adults could do :crazy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgnor Posted January 25, 2009 Report Share Posted January 25, 2009 Not adults with principles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
can-o-phish Posted January 25, 2009 Report Share Posted January 25, 2009 Not adults with principles.So you're saying neither side has people with principles? That's a pretty harsh, bleak, negative outlook on both the York administration and union...It always makes me shake my head when "job security" is an issue with today's fluctuating economies and drastically changing markets... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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