"Iran tests longest-range missiles"

[StoneMtn]

Iran tests longest-range missiles

Iran has successfully test-fired some of the longest range missiles in its arsenal, state media says.

The Revolutionary Guards tested the Shahab-3 and Sajjil rockets, which are believed to have ranges of up to 2,000km (1,240 miles), reports said.

The missiles' range could potentially reach Israel and US bases in the Gulf, analysts say.

The tests come amid heightened tension with the big international powers over Iran's nuclear ambitions.

Last week, Iran disclosed it was building a second uranium enrichment plant, despite UN demands that it cease its enrichment activities.

Iran is due to hold crucial talks with the five UN Security Council members plus Germany on Thursday on a wide range of security issues, including its nuclear programme.

Sanctions threat

"An improved version of Shahab-3 and the two-stage Sajjil, powered by solid fuel, were fired," the Guards' air force commander Hossein Salami was quoted as saying by the state-owned Arabic language TV channel Al-Alam.

ANALYSIS

Jon Leyne, BBC Tehran correspondent

The big fear is that ultimately Iran will have a fully-fledged inter-continental ballistic missile.

These missiles already cover pretty much the whole of the Middle East and a good chunk of Turkey as well, and maybe the fringes of Europe.

I think Iran would say with some justice its missile programme is the strongest deterrent it has got.

It probably cannot prevent Western jets getting through and Western missiles getting through.

But it could - and I think Israel knows for example - that if it did strike Iran, it would have to take into account the possibility of really substantial casualties if Iran did unleash its long-range missile pack.

Footage of the test-firing of the Shahab-3 in desert terrain was broadcast by another state-owned channel, Press TV.

The Shahab-3 (Meteor-3) is classed as a medium range ballistic missile but is the longest-range rocket Iran has successfully tested in public.

Iran says the missile, which it first tested in July 2008, can fly some 2,000km, although Western defence experts have put the strike range at 1,300km (807 miles).

The surface-to-surface Sajjil is a new, two-stage missile using solid fuel, which is considered to give a more accurate delivery than liquid fuel rockets.

It has been tested by Iran twice, in November 2008 and May 2009.

The BBC's Tehran correspondent Jon Leyne says Iran's enemies might be most worried by the test-firing of the Sajjil missile.

It is more advanced, and multiple stage rockets offer the potential for longer ranges, he says.

The Shahab-3 and Sajjil rockets are currently believed to be capable of reaching not only Israel and US bases in the Gulf, but also parts of Europe.

These tests are part of several days of military war game exercises known as Sacred Defence Week.

On Sunday, the medium-range Shahab-1 and 2 missiles with a range of 300 to 700km (186 to 434 miles) were tested.

The short-range Tondar-69 and Fateh-110 type, with a range of up to 170km (100 miles), were also tested.

Although the tests are likely to have been planned in advance, Iran will not be unhappy if they are seen as a gesture of defiance by the West, our correspondent adds.

Iran is under increasingly pressure to co-operate fully over its nuclear ambitions - particularly since the revelation of a previously undisclosed uranium enrichment plant.

President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has insisted that the plant, near the holy city of Qom, does not breach UN regulations and says it is open for inspection by UN experts.

But leaders of the US, Britain and France accuse Tehran of keeping the plant secret in breach of UN rules.

They have raised the prospect of new, tougher sanctions against Iran if Thursday's meeting with the so-called P5+1 (US, UK, France, China, Russia and Germany) yields little progress.

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Why? Enough already!

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"President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has insisted that the plant, near the holy city of Qom, does not breach UN regulations and says it is open for inspection by UN experts.

But leaders of the US, Britain and France accuse Tehran of keeping the plant secret in breach of UN rules."

Iran - the site is open for inspection.

West - no, its a secret plant.

[Velvet]

The strange, dark truths of Moammar Gadhafi

Last Updated: Friday, September 25, 2009 | 5:40 PM

By Neil Macdonald CBC News

I dread UN week. I can barely face it anymore.

Endless hours of self-important, flatulent, self-congratulatory orations, all delivered in front of that ugly, green marble backdrop.

Hell for a TV reporter: Ugly visuals, boring audio. And so it was again this week, mostly.

But when Libyan Leader Moammar Gadhafi — self-styled "dean of the Arab rulers, king of kings of Africa and the imam of Muslims" — made his way to the the podium, I sat up straight.

I just can't help admiring the guy's performances. I know he's been a vicious, dangerous SOB, whose agents have tortured, terrorized and slaughtered civilians.

Liyban Leader Moammar Gadhafi at the UN in September 2009. (Richard Drew/Associated Press) But then, as Gadhafi would say — as he did again this week — so have the Americans. Go ahead and argue with that.

Elvis is in the house

In all of his 40 years as Libya's president, Gadhafi has never addressed the UN. Most of the time, he's a recluse, living in a tent somewhere, dreaming up projects such as a Libyan-designed rocket car and a staggeringly expensive effort to roll back the Sahara desert.

So, clearly, he was pent up by the time he started talking this week. He went 90 minutes with a speech that was instantly declared a "diatribe" and "delusional rambling" by the herds of independent thinkers on U.S. cable networks.

Granted, some of it was pretty weird. Ruminations about JFK's assassin, about the swine flu as a military weapon and how the Taliban are a peaceful bunch. And so on.

But there was much that was serious, aimed at the Third World, which Gadhafi regards as his constituency.

Those portions should inspire at least some serious debate, and likely would have, had they not been delivered by a guy who drags his tent around the world and sometimes shows up at meetings in gold Elvis-style sunglasses, smoking cigars.

Political feudalism

First, he went after the Security Council, or, as Gadhafi called it, the "political feudalism" of the UN. He takes particular issue with the five permanent members, each of which has the power to veto the collective wishes of the rest of the world.

His point is not really arguable: These are five countries — the U.S., Britain, France, China and Russia — that effectively enjoy immunity from UN sanction or condemnation, simply because they can veto any such move.

They can accuse others of war crimes without ever having to worry about facing a similar charge themselves.

In his address, Gadhafi made the unrealistic, but to many people extremely appealing, suggestion that the Security Council should be a tool of the general membership, rather than the other way around.

Looking out at the General Assembly, Gadhafi mocked the sea of serious faces looking back at him.

"We are just décor," he said. "You are like Hyde Park. I mean, without any real substance, like the speakers of the Hyde Park corner. No more, no less. You make a speech and disappear."

Nervous laughter.

On a roll

He then turned his attention to the International Criminal Court, which is empowered by the UN to pursue and try national leaders for crimes against humanity (at least those national leaders who don't have Security Council vetoes or friends with vetoes).

"Yes," said Gadhafi, "Make it easy for (Sudanese President Omar) Bashir to be tried or (former Liberian president) Charles Taylor to be tried. Or (former Panamanian leader Manuel) Noriega. That is an easy job to be done."

(For the record, Noriega was grabbed by American forces in 1989, brought to the U.S. and imprisoned. Nothing to do with the ICC, and Noriega was never in the the same fiendish bracket as Taylor or Bashir. But Gadhafi was on a roll.)

"We want to take this file and we want to [charge] those who have committed the general mass murder against the Iraqi people."

By this he meant the people in Washington who ordered an invasion and bombing campaign six years ago, one that killed untold thousands of innocents, based on what turned out to be a false pretence, the fictitious weapons of mass destruction. You could hear crickets this time. Not even any nervous laughter.

A nose for hypocrisy

Now, granted, this was all coming from the man whose agents were found responsible for bombing a disco in Berlin and an airliner over Lockerbie, Scotland.

I'm not saying Gadhafi isn't a hypocrite. What I'm saying is that he is, in fact, such a hypocrite that he's developed an exquisite talent for identifying and exposing it elsewhere.

On nuclear non-proliferation, which he now applauds: "Do you [the UN inspectors] inspect the nuclear supplies of all? Do you supervise the increase of this nuclear storage?"

On the unwelcome flood of illegal African emigration to Europe: "Let [Africans] have the wealth that was looted and taken from us." Africa deserves trillions of dollars in compensation, he argued.

"If you don't give us this amount, the Africans will go to where you have taken these trillions. They have the right."

And to those American conservatives who constantly rag and complain about the cost and trouble and ineffectiveness of the UN, Gadhafi proposed a solution: Move it somewhere else.

It must be a terrorist target anyway, he declared, citing the extreme security of a UN week and the difficulties some foreign leaders have in obtaining the necessary U.S. visas for their support staff to travel with them to New York. (He himself had a retinue of more than 130.)

"I want to relieve America from the hardship. We want to relieve America from this worry. Now, after 50 years, it should be taken to another part of the hemisphere." Maybe Delhi, he suggested. Or Beijing.

Gadhafi might look eccentric, but this he knows: The one thing that would anger American conservatives even more than their usual complaints would be for the UN to pick another country as its headquarters.

But Americans shouldn't take his needling personally.

He drives other Arab leaders crazy, too, and that's how I came to appreciate him, after covering Arab League meetings from which Gadhafi regularly stormed out, usually after voicing a few choice truths.

"We hate each other, we wish ill of each other and our intelligence services conspire against each other," he told his Arab brothers last year. "We are our own enemy."

In 2005, he called the Palestinians "stupid," for failing to embrace the one-state-for-two-peoples solution that he promotes.

Other serious people have made the same suggestion, but Gadhafi wants to call it "Israstine," which he has to know won't fly with anyone. (He floated the notion again this week.)

He acknowledges the Holocaust, something almost every other Arab leader avoids or negates. But he always observes that it was carried out by Christians, while at least some Muslim states offered Jews sanctuary. He used that line this week, too.

This is an Arab leader whose speeches are often cut off by Arab networks, which know the sort of embarrassment he's capable of inflicting.

As when he calls other Arab leaders "tools" for striking self-interested deals with the West.

I remember him at one Arab League meeting, I think in Jordan, several years ago. He denounced the proceedings as ridiculous, as usual, and went out into the country to sit with the Bedouins.

It made him a bit of a hero on Jordanian streets, at least for the day.

Too bad he cancelled the Newfoundland trip. I'd have liked to see him try that sort of stunt there.

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2009/09/25/f-rfa-macdonald.html

[SaggyBalls]

If one side has nukes, the other side should have nukes.

Rag on Iran for developing them, but it's alright that ISRAEL have them?

That's ridiculous.

[Dr_Evil_Mouse]

It's not alright that anybody has them.

[StoneMtn]

YoursTruly, Dr. Evil Mouse hit the nail on the head. No one needs, or should have, nuclear arms.

Nuclear power-plants, at least, have utility. Nuclear missiles just destroy the planet.