backbacon Posted January 23, 2003 Report Share Posted January 23, 2003 So I know that they ask something like $5000 to play up here. That's probably US too. Not sure. A smaller venue like THe Pepper Jack isn't really the place for them I wouldn't say. I do know that they want to make it up here. I want them up here. I know many others of you do too. The problem is that I don't know the steps involved in getting a band a gig... Aaron, I know you dabble a bit and kinda know what's going on with that don't you? Look into getting them to play one of the bigger TO venues. Warehouse, Operahouse.. This is hookah's bassist response after I emailed him asking for contact info for putting together a gig up here: From : "Cliff Starbuck" To : Subject : Re: Canada Gigs... Date : Tue, 21 Jan 2003 19:15:54 -0500 Hi Keri, Thanks for the birthday wishes. Our booking agent is Neil Mandel at Neil@KingNimrod.com Thanks for helping us out! We'd like to make it up there. Cliff >>>>> They obviously want to come, so let's make it happen!! Nero to open maybe!? Nero + hookah = one night of mind fucking music! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peacedude Posted January 23, 2003 Report Share Posted January 23, 2003 Hookah and Nero at the opera house would be sick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewRider Posted January 23, 2003 Report Share Posted January 23, 2003 I know the last time the came up they were supposed to be over paid at like $2500-$3000US but I'll bet you could get them for $1000-$1500. Neil is a really really nice guy. I'd try to work it for a Frontier Town but I don't think Wilson would be willing to spend the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark tonin Posted January 23, 2003 Report Share Posted January 23, 2003 I am definitely willing to work with some other people to try and make this happen. An idea is for a group of us to take the risk - if we get 5 or 10 people together, with each person willing to throw in $500 or so, we would have some cash to try to make it happen. It really comes down to money - can we get enough people to attend a Hookah show to cover the cost of bringing them up here? I don't know, but it seems like it would be worth checking into. Peace, Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Freak Posted January 23, 2003 Report Share Posted January 23, 2003 It's not a matter of willingness on Mark Wilsons part it's a matter of budget. The tickets are VERY inexpensive for Frontier Town and Mark tries to pay the artists as well as he can and has gone over budget(meaning that he uses money out of his own pocket to pay the bands) almost every festival. He looked into Hookah once and was quoted a price higher than 5000 US. I can ask him again if he can look into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark tonin Posted January 23, 2003 Report Share Posted January 23, 2003 I agree with Tracy - we contacted EH last year and they quoted us a huge amount of money - definitely over $5000 US - it may have even been $10000 US. That might be their weekend festival rate for U.S. shows, but I dont' think that anyone up here would be willing to pay that kind of money for EH. Mark Wilson tries his best to get a solid lineup of bands that fits within his budget. He usually ends up going over budget on bands as it is, without even considering a larger act. It is a tough call to make - as soon as a bigger act is booked, ticket prices probably have to go up to cover the increased costs, which changes the event. That's my 2 cents for now ... Canadian funds Peace, Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backbacon Posted January 23, 2003 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2003 I'm willing to put money up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwa. Posted January 23, 2003 Report Share Posted January 23, 2003 i know absolutely nothin about this but will definitely lend a helping hand as far as promotions and stuff goes. If anyone gets the ball rolling on this i WILL help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secondtube Posted January 23, 2003 Report Share Posted January 23, 2003 personally, rather than seeing one huge band at FT, when i can travel the same amount of distance south, and see them there, i'd rather keep our Canadian Brothers. (and cheaper american friends) FT is great for our local talent. East, West, North, just when you add the money grubbin $$$$ south, things get sketchy. I'd be fine and dandy with Frontier Town staying the way it is, with the already huge mass of quality talent. You gimme any of: Fatties BNB JSB GTB nero Diesel Dog (pleez) MWandtheWIS Sanislo's Band Days of You Friends of Hefner JUKEJOINT there are lots of real quality choices that don't cost an arm and a leg. After all, wouldn't it just make more sence to put your cash towards a bus to see them in Western NY or somewhere to that extent? plus mark has brought NYCity bands, D&T, and drive by leslie, and both faired well, but neither blew me away as our local talent. May 24 weekend was ruled by the fattie reunion and the burn reunion. not to mention JSB rockin as always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark tonin Posted January 23, 2003 Report Share Posted January 23, 2003 Jomomma Blue Grassy High Dr. Huxtable Tala Highway Freeker Uncle Seth and the list goes on ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcO Posted January 23, 2003 Report Share Posted January 23, 2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secondtube Posted January 23, 2003 Report Share Posted January 23, 2003 I also really liked slow nerve action. oh and 2am > sunrise w/ caution jam never hurt one bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secondtube Posted January 23, 2003 Report Share Posted January 23, 2003 quote: not like my opinion counts but i think 2nd tube hit it on the head with that list Your opinion only counts around here if you disagree with me. You'll learn that with time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevO Posted January 23, 2003 Report Share Posted January 23, 2003 Fat Cats Slow Nerve Action Days Of You Jukejoint Friends Of Hefner Moses Mayes Do any of these bands still exist?? I think it would be awesome to have one or two moderately well known US bands up to Frontier Town.. It would be good exposure for our bands and our scene, as more US heads would see these names poppin' up on the internet and in other media. Not to mention the good tunes we'd get to hear! Then again, of course, money talks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewRider Posted January 24, 2003 Report Share Posted January 24, 2003 I agree with KevO, I think a smaller US band could really spice things up at Frontier Town. I really enjoyed seeing Drums and Tuba up there last year and I'm sure they're glad they made the trek. I'd really like to see Rose Garland play in the Saloon at some point this year as well. A US bands asking price means nothing, send them an offer with the best you can do and see what happens. The worst thing is they say "no way" right? I don't know about Hookah getting $5000US up here, they played for less than half of that at the Good Forest Music Festival in 2000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teetervillestation Posted January 24, 2003 Report Share Posted January 24, 2003 now i'm just guessing but i bet you could get Bruce Colburne or Big Sugar for less then $5000...what about bringing in a more 'mainstream' canadian act to draw attention to the come together festival and the more freeky acts that play up there... on the other hand Bob Dylan is only $75,000 - at $30 bucks a ticket youd only have to sell 2500 tix to break even! i'd go see dylan at frontier town for $30! seriously though if somebody had a serious bankroll not only is it possible to promote big acts, its possibly to make money doing it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcO Posted January 24, 2003 Report Share Posted January 24, 2003 THE SLIP!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcO Posted January 24, 2003 Report Share Posted January 24, 2003 Oh yeah, I can see Bruce Cockburn at Frontier Town! "Bernie, this is Bruce. Some guy just offered me his girlfriend Molly. Another guy keeps asking me I brought anything back from my last trip to Bogota and Columbia. Get me out of here!!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevO Posted January 24, 2003 Report Share Posted January 24, 2003 I'd rather see Kim Mitchell -- Canada's Biggest Party Animal. It'd be such a great novelty just to have Kim Mitchell sitting around the fire sippin' pints with us, no? I dunno I guess I'm just a skid. He'd probably be pretty cheap too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backbacon Posted January 24, 2003 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2003 So this has more or less turned into a CTMF discussion? I don't think we need to worry about that. Everything has always fallen into place quite nicely. If Mark W is getting capacity or near what he wants to have out at his festivals with all the fantastic CDN talent, why bother bringing in a band such as hookah who are asking more than we're (Mark) is willing to pay. The homegrown feel of the CTMF is undeniable. I really don't think that needs to be tampered with. Plus, I don't think the saloon would still be standing after hookah played a set... I'm talking about organizing a show or two. Sure you go on about other bands and how much of a better deal they are and more feasible to have come up and play. Fine, do it! I'm not talking about any other bands. I'm talking about ekoostik hookah. If what Aaron says is true, and hookah would play for less than $5000, than that's great. We're even closer to makin it happen. If we could get hookah to play a concert theater in TO and have a few hundered people show up, the band would be thrilled. They would also be thrilled to go back to an after party and meet the folks who came out to the show. I mentioned nero opening because, for one, they said they would be interested, and also, they would draw a substantial crowd, especially seeing them at a bigger venue than they've played in the past. It would be so exciting to see them play a nice concert theater. Can you imagine that sound! It would be great exposure for hookah, and it would be great exposure for nero, even for the hookah boys to see them. I mean, I can see hookah having nero out to play one of their hookahvilles once they hear that unmistakeable nero sound. hookahville: 15,000 people + that would put nero on the map for sure! >>> Bouche, with your equation in place: BGH + Nero + hookah = one night of mind fucking music! .... it might be a little too hard of a fucking. People might have a tough time walking out of the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teetervillestation Posted January 24, 2003 Report Share Posted January 24, 2003 most of my closest freinds would disagree but i think kim mitchell is WAY FUCKIN COOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevO Posted January 24, 2003 Report Share Posted January 24, 2003 teeterville -- I feel the same way exactly. b-bacon -- If the Hookah comes around, I will go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weezy Posted January 24, 2003 Report Share Posted January 24, 2003 quote: I also really liked slow nerve action. they broke-up. in-fighting or something. bummer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swifty Posted January 24, 2003 Report Share Posted January 24, 2003 I don't think Hookah coming up this way is meant to be. Oh well, i guess i'll keep forking over all that american loot to keep seeing them. BTW I think frontier town would be the only place to see them up here anyway. You don't want them to play T.O. in front of 150 people. That would be a waste of their time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PassedOutGuy Posted January 24, 2003 Report Share Posted January 24, 2003 So playing to an audience in a city that may not know them is a waste of there time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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