TimmyB

Have a great trip David! Looking forward to the stories when you get back.

No I haven't picked up the Gordon Lightfoot tribute album "Beautiful" yet. I believe it came out around the same time as Lightfoot's latest effort "Harmony" and I picked up "Harmony" instead of "Beautiful."

I will look for it now, especially since I'm in such a Lightfoot mood at the moment. Gord was the first person I put on the stereo last night when I got home.

Do you feel this way?

No

Does it really bother you that a bar may have a band with 50 people in attendance while the dance club next door has over 500 people passing through the doors?

Yes it bothers me. Maybe it's my Christian background but I like the idea of converting people to my side of things. I love certain artists so much, that I want people that I meet to see why I love the music I love.

But once they say they don't after I try and convert them, I respect that and go on to the next person.

Are those people wrong to attend that club?

No. Live and let live.

Do you feel this scene is strong and reslient, or is it fragile and therefore should be protected?

No I do not feel this "scene" is resilient. On a smaller level, maybe. When I go to PJC or see other smaller jambands at venues in Toronto or elsewhere, I see the same people all the time (I think they frequent this board). But on a larger level I've been to larger venue shows that are half full, if not worse sometimes, and it reminds me that artist to artist this scene often struggles to succeed.

That being said, do I think because the scene is somewhat fragile that it should be protected? I don't know. If I enjoy an artist within this scene I will make efforts to attend the show. If I don't I won't. I guess what I'm saying is I'll preach the word around about what I like, and I'll support the music I like, but I really don't know how else I can protect it?

Is having a succesful recording career (and earning a lot of money along the way) necessarily shallow, manipulative and evil?

Absolutely not! All the power to them. If I don't like some specific artist I'll move on to another artist that I do enjoy. We live in a free society last time I checked and making money is what North Americans do best.

Is it vain to be clean, well-groomed and well-dressed?

No. I would prefer if all were, the clean part, that is.

Do you feel reassured to be among your "own" no matter what band is on stage? No matter what they play or how they play it?

No, no, no! If the music isn't speaking to me then I'm outta there. The community is secondary to the music, all that really matters is the music.

Right on Tim.

It was one of those right place at the right time situations. If I didn't have such a crappy spot in the venue I would have never gotten an opportunity to tell Gordon Lightfoot it was great to see him back on stage and get his autograph.

You never know when you can make lemonade out of lemons.

BTW Esau,

I picked up a copy of The Gourds "Blood of the Ram" at Sam the Record Man today for $26.99+tx. I didn't know if you had a copy or not yet so I didn't get you one (though there was only one copy in the racks).

If you want I can attempt to burn you a copy?

That's funny, the only top 50 act I saw was Prince, and while I'm glad I didn't pay for the ticket, I still think it was a great show... Lots of good old sh!t, and a pretty good stage show. I never would have suspected that you would have picked him...

Since I'm still awake I'll answer the Prince question now.

To me it was a good show that could have been one of the greatest shows that I ever saw, but since it wasn't I won't say it was anything more then a good show. And here's my reasons why.

Firstly, without a question Prince is one of the greatest guitarists on the rock we call earth. Yet through a nearly three hour concert, to my memory, I only remember him perform an extended solo two, maybe three times.

I don't expect Prince to be like Warren Haynes or Trey Anastasio, but come on three solos in three hours?

As I was wishing Prince would play more guitar throughout the concert, instead I got the second thing I didn't like about the concert...

Secondly, I hate, I repeat, I HATE when an artist (in this case the artist) ruins a song by screaming to the crowd. Like "I can't hear you!" or "Come on you can do better than that!" or "Let me hear you (insert the name of the the city in which they are performing, in this case Toronto)!"

You know what just play the damn song, if you are playing a great show then we'll let you know, don't tell me to scream or clap or enjoy you more than I am. That's fascist.

Also Prince would often just scream in some higher octave that usually only girls can hit. But when he screamed, it wasn't apart of the song, it was to induce the crowd to scream back. Prince just wanted more cheering to make up of over a decade of being in the wilderness when it comes to being a popular artist. Which leads me to the final thing I didn't like about the concert...

Thirdly, what an arrogant little prick. I have never attended a show that said 7:30PM on the ticket at an arena or amphitheatre size venue that made me wait well over an hour to start the show.

Then as we're waiting for the Prince concert, guess what music is playing in the monitors? That's right Prince is getting us excited with his own music, unbelievable right? Well it doesn't end there. While we're listening to Prince, waiting for Prince on the video screens is, you guessed it a photo montage of non other than Prince!

What tops of his arrogance was the point in the show when he comes out on stage solo with a the rolling stone magazine that featured him on the cover in 2004! Then he sits for what felt like an eternity waiting until the crowd cheers loud enough for him to continue.

Not to mention lines from the man himself like "You have to be a Prince before you're crowned a King!" WTF?

That being said did I enjoy parts of the show, sure did, "Purple Rain" to close the show was one of the best closers I've ever witnessed and there were other moments as well. Am I glad I saw Prince do "Purple Rain" and countless other hits of his for the last time, yes.

Would I pay to see Prince again? I really don't think so? I remember watching the Prince DVD "Live at the Alladin Las Vegas" where there was a way smaller production with a lot more guitar playing and less BS, if it was that formate than maybe I'd say yes. But who knows if I ever get that opportunity to see Prince in that size of a venue again after how successful this tour was?

"I can't hear you Toronto!" Shut up and play your guitar.

I went to see Ian Tyson a Canadian folk and then country legend at Hugh's Room in Toronto tonight (February 11, 2005).

When I walked through the Hugh's Room doors the concert didn't get off to a great start.

To backtrack I called the night before the show to reserve a single ticket, I was told that the ticket would be standing room at the bar only for $7 less the ticket price (so $25 instead of $32). I asked the Hugh's Room staff worker on the phone that would seeing the concert in the bar be obstructed? They replied no, it would just be in the back of the venue. So I said to myself well that's worth it.

Back to entering Hugh's Room at the exact time they asked me to go to the venue (8:20PM). The bar area at the back was definitely obstructed by two giant walls dividing the bar from the actual venue! The only way to see a full view of the stage was to be "standing in the doorway" (I love that song), and this wasn't allowed. Us people who purchased standing room only had to be a good five or six feet back of the doorway, so that's were I stood for the next three plus hours.

I'm so happy that I'm tall as I usually had a full view of the stage over shorter peoples heads. Though the sound was terrible by the bar, not only from the noise of the bar but because of the walls dividing the rooms.

When the opener came on stage she was far too quite, which made me worry about how Ian Tyson was going to sound. I even debated on leaving. But since I had never seen Tyson before and he is seventy-one years of age I decided to stick it out, and I'm glad I did.

When Tyson came on, he really impressed me. Not only by his performance (he did two sets that nearly lasted two hours), but also by the way he looked. He is a rancher when he isn't recording or touring and it shows! When I retire I think I'm going to get a ranch, just so I can look like that when I'm over seventy.

Back to the show, his voice is still so smooth and his accompaniment of a guitarist and bassist also sang with beautiful harmonies throughout the show.

Part way through the first set someone says something about Gordon Lightfoot, and I think to myself that wasn't a Lightfoot song? What are they talking about? Then as I'm thinking why they said Lightfoot, the man himself walks right by me to a seat right up infront of the stage!

At the end of Tyson's first set, Lightfoot gets up from his table and the crowd gives him a standing ovation. Which was something Tyson hadn't even gotten yet, but then it's Gordon Lightfoot.

Lightfoot walks right by me again to go to Tyson's dressing room and I'm thinking to myself, damn if I only knew Gordon Lightfoot was standing right beside me I could have gotten his autograph, because I thought I wouldn't get that opportunity again (It immediately reminded me of the time I missed a Lightfoot autograph session at Sam the Record Man when his 1999 album "A Painter Passing Through" came out).

Well I kept standing in the same spot I had for the past two hours and while the setbreak was still happening, I turn to see Lightfoot just standing beside me again!

This time I say "Mr. Lightfoot, could you sign this for me?" The legend replies "Sure" and proceed to take my pen and paper and signs his name. As he's writing I also said to him "I'm glad you're back performing again. I saw you and Mr. Good (one of the Good Brothers was standing beside Lightfoot) at your first show back at Hamilton Place in the fall." Both Lightfoot and Good smile and me and simutaneously say "Thank you."

I turn back around as all the people at the bar look in astonishment that Gordon Lightfoot is standing around the same bar that they are in.

Ian said while he took the stage for the second set, "It's good to see my friends Gordon Lightfoot and the Good Brothers tonight." Which garnered another applause for the legend. Then Tyson said "Lightfoot and Good that sounds like a supergroup, doesn't it?" Yes it does.

Then Lightfoot stood beside me for the first few songs for the second set before ducking out of the venue early. And one things for sure, I'm glad I didn't duck out early that night!

Van Halen and Prince?

(although me thinks Dave-O has got it.......)

We have a winner and it's MarcO!

I picked the prize today while I was shopping today in Toronto before I went to see Ian Tyson at Hugh's Room. I was in the HMV Superstore on Yonge Street and I came across "Raging Bull: Special Edition 2-Disc DVD Collectors Set" for $22.99. But then I see "Scorsese: The Martin Scorsese Film Collection" featuring the above Raging Bull: Special Edition" as well as "Boxcar Bertha" "New York, New York: Special Edition" and "The Last Waltz: Special Edition" all for only $34.99!

Though I already have "The Last Waltz" at home I figured I would give one of the copies away as the prize for the Sanctuary member who picked the correct two out of nine Top 50 money makers that I witnessed and that I felt I didn't get my values worth at the shows.

MarcO was right as the shows that I left feeling disappointed was Van Halen and Prince.

The problem MarcO is that I believe that you already own a copy of "The Last Waltz." Am I correct in that assumption?

If so I will instead give you a copy of "I Am Trying To Break Your Heart A Film About Wilco By Sam Jones." You can thank my ex-girlfriend, Julia, for finally sending me my copy of the Wilco film after I had already bought myself a replacement copy.

So there you go, congratulations MarcO!

I will answer why I felt disappointed with those two shows on the weekend, if anyone is interested?

I enjoyed Warren Haynes' performance of "One" on Carson Daly. Better than what we usually see as the performers on late night television.

I remember I was quite surprised when I saw him perform the classic U2 song at bonnaroo in 2003.

Clapton and Van Halen?

Nope. Thanks for playing.

Dave Matthews and Sting?

No and no.

Funnily enough I actually saw Dave Matthews last year, but since I saw Dave Matthews and Friends, not the Dave Matthews Band, I didn't add him to the list (which would have been ten.

Velvet, you can go back and change the Dave Matthews pick for a pick from my nine, to go along with Sting.

phil colins and eric clapton would be my guess.

clapton sold his soul to play guitar the way he did in 60 and 70's and now he's forced to crank out rock n' roll piss licks over sh!tty lyrics for babyboomers.

Nope. Thanks for playing.

vanhalen and phish

Nope. Thanks for playing.

Celine Dion and Bette Midler

Final answer.

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No and No. I don't know if you understand the question Booche or you're just being funny?

The choice is two out of the nine artists I saw on the Top 50 list (As shown on my opening post in this thread).

Booche, as you didn't actually pick two of the nine you can go back and pick again.

Hey hamilton,

I just looked it up and the others in Fleetwood Mac in 1994 were Billy Burnette on guitar and vocals (which makes sense as he was a member in the eighties as well) and Steve Thoma on keyboards. Also Delaney and Bonnie's kids name is Bekka.

sting and clapton

but i think this contest is unfair as too many factors come into play depending on where and how much you paid for tickets to decide whether or not you got your "value"

a good example on your list is van halen if you saw them in the spring in TO cheap seats were $95 or in the fall you could see them for $25 in the hammer. toronto show may not have had the same value as the hammer.

Nope. Thanks for playing.

It's just my opinion is all, and the first to guess the two out of the nine wins a prize (yet to be determined).

It's free to play so I don't see why it's so unfair?

Think the last show I caught Santana at was Kingswood July 22nd '94 CSN played the next night.Great double header.

That's funny, I went to both of those shows too. Didn't Fleetwood Mac open up for CSN that night?

I always used to get a season's pass for Wonderland, and I used to see a crapload of cheap shows there for years on end.

Yes hamilton, Fleetwood Mac did open up for CSN that night. The Fleetwood Mac lineup was Mick Fleetwood and John McVie with Dave Mason on guitar and vocals, Delany & Bonnie Bramlett's daughter on vocals and somebody else that I don't recall. But no Lindsey, Stevie or Christine!

Eric Clapton and Phish...

Nope. Thanks for playing.

IAN TYSON

HUGH'S ROOM

2261 DUNDAS STREET WEST

FRIDAY FEBRUARY 11, 2005

SHOW TIME 8:30PM

$25 STANDING ROOM ONLY

Tickets were $30 but now it's almost sold out (If it isn't already). You have to call Hugh's Room (416)531-6604 for ticket reservations. Tyson also performed on Wednesday and Thursday at Hugh's.

Ian Tyson's first studio album in six years came out this past Tuesday. It is entitled "Songs From the Gravel Road" (2005 Stony Plain)

Interestingly enough Kevin Breit appears on the album performing acoustic and electric guitars, bouzouki and mandolin. I do not know if Breit will be at the show on Friday.

At the second annual Canadian Songwriters Hall of Fame Awards this week held at the John Bassett Theatre on Tuesday, Ian Tyson performed "Tumbling Tumbleweeds" and "Cool Water" written by Winnipeg born Hollywood movie cowboy Bob Nolan in the 1930s. Tyson performed the song with a singing Quartette that included his first wife Sylvia Tyson. I also don't know if she will be at tomorrow nights show.

Ian is seventy-one years old and I have never seen him so I'm very excited about the show.

For those who don't know the closing track "Four Strong Winds" off of Neil Young's "Comes A Time" was written by Ian Tyson.

Nope. Sorry Esau, thanks for playing.

Hmmm,theres a possiblity I may want to hit this one up also.Although its going depend on finances (doesn't it always) I really want to hit Winnipeg for the folk festival,which is my primary objective.

Think the last show I caught Santana at was Kingswood July 22nd '94 CSN played the next night.Great double header.

That was my first CSN show in 1994. I didn't see Santana for the first time until the year later with Jeff Beck and Keb 'Mo on the bill as well.

I would definitely try and get to the Winnipeg Folk Festival if I were you Esau, I now can't wait to see the Gourds at bonnaroo this year! Tomorrow I'll be looking for their CD's in Toronto.

Bowie and Dylan? (just guessing randomly here...)

Nope. Sorry Del but that's your guess.

I actually saw Bob Dylan 6 times last year so definitely not Dylan.

It is a numbers game and sooner or later someone has to get the right two.

That's the day before my birthday, I just might consider seeing Santana again. I haven't seen him since 1999.

from www.billboard.com

Edited By Jonathan Cohen. February 10, 2005, 4:30 PM ET

Santana Signs On For Oscars, Summer Tour

Carlos Santana will team with Enrique Iglesias to perform the Oscar-nominated song of the year "Al Otro Lado Del Rio" (from "The Motorcycle Diaries") at the Academy Awards. As previously reported, Beyoncé, Josh Groban and Counting Crows will also perform songs nominated in the category at the event, which will be held Feb. 27 in Los Angeles.

Santana has also announced plans for a summer North American tour, which will begin May 30 in Tampa, Fla., according to his official Web site. The tour will hit arenas and amphitheatres before closing with festival performances at Taste of Chicago and Milwaukee's Summerfest.

As previously reported, the dates will be preceded by a tour of Latin America that begins April 1 in San Juan, Puerto Rico. Santana is expected to release a new studio album this spring via Arista.

Tomorrow (Feb. 11), the artist will join Black Eyed Peas, James Brown, Earth Wind & Fire, Justin Timberlake, Macy Gray and Herbie Hancock for the Tsumani Benefit Peapod Jam, to be held at the Avalon in Los Angeles.

Here are Santana's North American dates:

May 30: Tampa, Fla. (Ford Amphitheatre)

June 1: Miami (American Airlines Arena)

June 7: Columbia, Md. (Merriweather Post Pavilion)

June 8: Philadelphia (Penn's Landing)

June 11-12: Atlantic City (Borgata Casino)

June 14: Holmdel, N.J. (PNC Bank Arts Center)

June 15: New York (Madison Square Garden)

June 17: Mansfield, Mass. (Tweeter Center)

June 18: Wallingford, Conn. (Oakdale Theatre)

June 21: Montreal (Bell Centre)

June 22: Quebec City, Quebec (Colisee Pepsi Arena)

June 24: Toronto (Molson Amphitheatre)

June 25: Clarkston, Mich. (DTE Energy Music Theater)

June 26: Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio (Blossom Music Center)

June 29: Minneapolis (Xcel Center)

July 2: Chicago (Taste of Chicago)

July 3: Milwaukee (Summerfest)

-- Jason MacNeil, Toronto

from www.billboard.com

Edited By Jonathan Cohen. February 10, 2005, 4:30 PM ET

Collaborations Highlight Tibet House Benefit

Ray Davies jammed with the Black Keys, Nellie McKay harmonized with Trey Anastasio and Philip Glass tickled the ivories behind Lou Reed last night (Feb. 9) at the 15th annual Tibet House Benefit concert at New York's Carnegie Hall. The event aims to raise awareness of Tibet's occupation by China and to celebrate the country's unique cultural and spiritual heritage.

Davies played piano and sang harmony vocals on the Keys' cover of the Kinks' "Act Nice and Gentle," which appeared on their 2004 Fat Possum album, "Rubber Factory." "When I wrote this song, I don't think these guys were on the planet," Davies joked beforehand.

"Most people come to this hall and play their big hits, but I'm going to play some of my flops for you," Davies said before his own set, but the Kinks mastermind brought down the house with a five-song medley from the maligned 1968 concept album "The Kinks Are the Village Green Preservation Society": "The Village Green," "Picture Book," "Animal Farm," "Do You Remember Walter?" and "Johnny Thunder."

The artist drafted the crowd for loud sing-a-long versions of "Sunny Afternoon" and "Lola," backed by Patti Smith Band members Lenny Kaye (guitar), Tony Shanahan (bass) and Jay Dee Daugherty (drums). Davies is at work on his first proper solo studio album, which could see the light of day by the end of 2005.

McKay sang with Anastasio on the latter's "Flock of Words," from his 2002 self-titled solo debut. The former Phish guitarist's set also featured the subdued new songs "Bar 17" and "Love Is Freedom," both of which boasted accompaniment from the Scorchio string quintet. The cuts are expected to appear on Anastasio's next album, due later this year.

Longtime Tibet House artistic director Glass joined in on piano for Reed's "Perfect Day," his lone solo song of the evening. Earlier, Anastasio cranked out guitar solos during Chocolate Genius' Marc Anthony Thompson's three-song set, which featured string arrangements by Van Dyke Parks.

Smith closed the evening with a set that featured the poem "Perfect World" set to Glass' piano accompaniment, "Ghost Dance" and "Peaceable Kingdom." The annual finale of "People Have the Power" found the entire evening's cast on stage, highlighted by Anastasio, Reed and Davies sharing a microphone for the anthemic chorus.

-- Jonathan Cohen, N.Y.

Van Halen and Phish

Nope. Thanks for playing.

I'm going to bed now and tomorrow I'll be at work and then I'm going to Toronto to see Ian Tyson at Hugh's Room, so I won't be back until late.

Hopefully by tomorrow night someone will have come up with the correct two artists out of the nine that are in the top 50 money makers of 2004 that I do not feel I got my values worth at their concerts.

Also I will think on what the prize will be at work tomorrow. And post it Friday night/Saturday morning.

Phil Collins and Rush?

Nope.

Keep guessing, whoever comes up with the two artists first will get a prize from me (Next time we see each other, or if we have never meet, when we meet for the first time).

The only rule is you can only guess once (Del you can guess twice as I hadn't made up the rules yet).

Good luck.