timouse

So, do you prefer (or currently work) a traditional work week, or do you relish the unconventionality of working some evenings and weekends, and the time off that comes with it?

done both. did evenings and weekends first (food service management minion) and currently do the day thing. i'd have to say that days rule...for years i missed out on a lot of good fun that was being had on weekends, but conversely enjoyed going hiking with a head full of acid on a tuesday afternoon and having the woods to myself

if i really got to choose, i'd definitely choose neither (~)

"I'm watching the watchers Jerry!"

"I blame the media blamers."

what about the children? whon't someone please think of the children?

Updated Thu. Mar. 31 2005 11:32 PM ET

damn lack of reading comprehension...i completely assumed that was recent news. i suppose it's getting easier to believe the worst...

somebody in another thread pointed out that going after the end user of seal pelts is a necessary part of this battle. if inuit are hunting seal for food, that's one thing. if companies are hunting for pelts for export, then that's way less acceptable.

You killed Arrested Development! You BASTARDS!!!

heard this on quirks and quarks recently...more chemicals making their way into our bodies. today's nasty element is antimony.

Bottled Waters Contaminated with Antimony from PET

Prof. William Shotyk and co-workers at the Institute of Environmental Geochemistry, University of Heidelberg, measured the abundance of antimony in fifteen brands of bottled water from Canada and forty-eight from across Europe

Bottled waters in PET containers are contaminated with antimony (Sb), a potentially toxic heavy metal with no known physiological function. Antimony trioxide is used as a catalyst in the manufacture of PET (polyethylene terephthalate), and PET typically contains several hundred mg/kg of Sb. For comparison, most of the rocks and soils at the surface of the earth contain less than 1 mg/kg Sb.

Prof. William Shotyk and co-workers at the Institute of Environmental Geochemistry, University of Heidelberg, measured the abundance of Sb in fifteen brands of bottled water from Canada and forty-eight from across Europe. His team also measured Sb in a pristine groundwater from a rural region of Canada, three brands of deionized water in PET bottles, as well as a new brand of water from Canada bottled commercially in polypropylene. Measuring Sb in pristine waters is quite a challenge because of the very low natural abundance of this element. This was not a problem for Dr. Michael Krachler, a leading expert for the analysis of Sb in environmental samples. Dr. Krachler used the unique clean laboratory facilities available at the University of Heidelberg which had earlier allowed him to measure Sb in polar snow and ice from the Canadian arctic.

The pristine groundwater was found to contain only two parts per trillion of Sb, with the bottled waters typically showing values a few hundred times greater. The water in polypropylene was comparable to the pristine water, suggesting that the PET bottles were to blame for the high Sb values. Even though deionized water should be very clean, in PET bottles these contained as much Sb as the natural waters in PET bottles. Adding pristine groundwaters to PET bottles quickly confirmed that the bottles were contaminating the waters by leaching of Sb from the containers.

Comparison of three German brands of water available in both glass bottles and PET containers showed that waters bottled in PET contained up to 30 times more Sb. As a final test of the contamination hypothesis, water was collected from a commercial source in Germany, prior to bottling; this water was found to contain only four parts per trillion of Sb. However, the same brand of water purchased locally in PET bottles, was found to contain 360 parts per trillion. This same brand of water in PET bottles, but purchased three months earlier, yielded 630 parts per trillion Sb.

Although all of the waters tested were found to contain Sb in concentrations well below the guidelines commonly recommended for drinking water, Shotyk said that the continuous release from the container to the fluid is bothersome. "There is unlikely to be a beneficial effect of Sb contamination". He noted further that in Japan, PET is manufactured using titanium (Ti), an element which is effectively insoluble and harmless, instead of potentially toxic Sb.

handn't thought of that

does that mean mellower headliners at hillside?

Hard to say' date=' Tim, whether it was that or simply the availability of The Hip and Weakerthans who are doing some other shows around that time. As Zero says - a well known bill in a proven venue. [/quote']

indeed. i've been harbouring a fantasy about come together at guelph lake

I've been listening to that song over and over for the past couple weeks. Just rediscovered it. Good tune.

the instrumental bit at the beginning of that tune stands as one of my alltime favourites...

bah bah! ba ba digga digga diga budda bah bah!

it seems over the past few years that there's becoming a deeper divide between the two.

perhaps the promoter recognized this and it is the reason for actually staging two separate events' date=' because as NewRider points out - The Tragically Hip show is not part of the festival, but an event unto itself. [/quote']

handn't thought of that

does that mean mellower headliners at hillside?

...and where are the Rheostatics?

i wondered this for that whole series.

"when winter comes" should be on that list

i'd go along with most of the reccomendations on here, particularly the richard scarry books.

a friend of mine got a copy of a book called "the bear who wanted to be a bear" which i ended up ordering for myself. a bear cub goes to sleep for the winter and wakes up to discover that they have built a factory over his den, and he's now inside. the forman sees him, yells at him, makes him shave and put on a tie and sends him to work. assuming this is just the way it is, he complies. try as he might, he can't get in to the tasks he has been given, and they finally fire him. he goes off into the world to discover his bearness.

best lesson i could give a kid

this just in.. and maybe you all knew this already. but apparently Brit had a c-section.. I feel so betrayed

boy would that be a weird looking sculpture...

I seriously doubt this and hope that it is not true. The Hip are too big for Hillside and would attract a crowd not typical at festivals. Hillside does not need to get any bigger and like many good things is a victim of it's sucess. I know things can't go backwards but Hillside 10-15 years ago was more intimate and relaxed. Still a great festival.

agreed. even last year's stars/arcade fire/bss headliners seemed to change things a bit. i fully support the idea that the festival should put on a good show and sell tickets, there's a balance between pleasing the people that come for the headliner and the folks that are there for the weekend. it seems over the past few years that there's becoming a deeper divide between the two.

the idea that next years' camping is sold out by midway through this years' sunday afetrnoon speaks to the popularity of the festival, but even that's a little silly...

oh well. waiting pateiently for the onsale date for tickets...

COURT SAYS CHURCH CAN USE HALLUCINOGENIC TEA

DENVER - A New Mexico church was handed a small victory Thursday when a federal appeals court ruled its use of hallucinogenic tea was likely to be protected under freedom of religion laws.

The ruling, issued by the Tenth Circuit Court of Appeals in Denver, upheld a preliminary injunction against the U.S. Attorney General, the Drug Enforcement Administration and other government agencies that sought to prohibit the tea's use.

The appeals court agreed with the U.S. District Court in New Mexico that the Brazil-based O Centro Espirita Beneficiente Uniao do Vegetal church had "demonstrated a substantial likelihood of success" of winning an exemption for sacramental use of the tea, which contains a drug barred by the Controlled Substances Act.

Jeffrey Bronfman, president of the church, sued the Justice Department after 30 gallons of hoasca tea were seized by U.S. Customs agents from his office in Santa Fe, N.M. No one was arrested in the 1999 raid.

Hoasca tea, used in some religious ceremonies, is brewed from plants found only in the Amazon River Basin.

The church originated in Brazil, and its U.S. operations are based in Santa Fe. About 130 people, many of them Brazilian citizens, are members of the U.S. branch, according to court documents.

anybody wanna go to church with me ??

hey' date=' it's spring forward right (yes, i get mixed up and also still have to make the L with my hand to get left and right half the time)?[/quote']

That's awesome. I thought I was the only who does that.

oooh. i never knew that one.

i covet socks with a L and an R on them...or tatoos

Fuckin eh tooly!

what he said !

congrats to both of you for the house and the wedding!

for a second i thought you were talking about John Ashcroft.

congrats on your new home, and beware of methyl's. that place has a very strong pull

i live in a small town with one guy downtown who looks homeless but in fact lives at a group home. when i go in to toronto or any other big gity, i am the biggest soft touch for change. the last time i was at hugh's room, i had a really eye-opening conversation with the "hugh's room homeless guy," who ironically through our whole conversation didn't once hit me up for money. i pointed out to him that he had missed an opportunity, and asked him if i could give him what change i had...

ordinarily my encounters with homeless folks aren't as convivial, and some have been full-on rude to me. i try to be decent to them, and at very least acknowledge their existence, but after a protreacted period of it i find myself frustrated and depressed by it. if i can make a bit of their day more bearable, i'm all over it, but what about all that money the government nicks from me every week? they can take more if they're going to do something socially productive with it...

in the meantime, i will probably continue to be a soft touch and hand out change like it was candy

i once saw a t-shirt that said "yes, i have lots of change, thanks for asking." maybe i need one of those

hillside's website says july 28 to 30 and doesn't mention the Hip (or anyone else in this year's lineup...yet...)

the onsale date for tickets is also listed as may 1st...

I have to ask guigsy, are you referring specifically to the recent Dima-related sh!t that went down?

nope. just how i've been feeling about the board in general lately.

i chose not to answer how many threads i open or participate in, or whatever, because i think it's irrelevant - what is relevant is why i dont open more, or dont participate more. i sure would, but more and more im discouraged and disheartened by this board.

before i found this place, i was a rec.music.gdead reader/occasional poster. i eventually lost interest due to the nonsensical turn that most discussions took...ad hominem attacks spurred on by the sense of anonymity that you get from never having to deal with these people in public.

flip to this place...people actaully look forward to seeing one another in real life, and mostly treat each other well. the meatspace component to this community is what i realy like about it. i can go to a show and be pretty sure that i will meet some cool folks there who i may already have something in common with...

i think that this place is cyclical, and there are some days where i pop in for a minute and suddenly it's an hour and a half later and i know some new stuff, or know about an upcoming show. maybe this is a wave trough. the fact that lots of people have chimed in makes me think that people do seem to care...

Question: Roughly what percentage of threads on the board do you actually open and look at?

Debate: As an aside, I personally regret the creation of a separate politcal forum. It makes this main page far less interesting and hides away some of those discussions to the detriment of the board. Sports, I can understand, as that is a parallel obsession that unfolds constantly. Politics has more of an ebb and flow to it and otherwise compelling discussions based on social or moral concerns have the potential to languish in the mini-forum. Discuss.

i would figure that i probably read about half of the threads in the cavern. i do wish that the politics forum would be folde back in to the cavern, a lot does go on there that people who aren't necessarily looking would miss. i think that the increase in political discourse lkeading up to the last election drove a lot of folks to distraction, and that's what spurred the politics forum into existence.

life is political. abolish the politics forum!

embrace the "green revolution" in agriculture (monocropping' date=' "terminator" seed, pesticide & fertilizer input, basically Moinsanto's product line...).[/quote']

FYI terminator seeds are not part of the "Green Revolution", they are more a product of biotech, and have been miss construed by most people. Currently farmers plant 95% hybrid seeds that require them to by new seeds every year any way. Terrminator seeds if ever developed (no sucessful attempts to date, monsanto has even abandoned the technology) would be a efective way to prevent gene flow into non target species. If we had terminator seeds for canola the chance of random herbicid tollerent weeds and volonterrs (plants that come up the next year in a new rotated crop) would be solved. We all eat GM foods on a regular basis 70% of soy, 60% of yellow corn and 50% of the cotton underwear youve got on.

on the meat tip

Some biological engineers I have spoken to do not feel this method will be here anytime soon. due to the inconsistancy in the texture, and if at all it would be test tube fish on our plates first.

sorry, benny, you're absolutely right, i shouldn't have lumped monsatan in with the green revolution. and i appreciate what you said about terminator seed preventing gene migration...it's ironic that the terminator concept, which in a natural context is pretty abhorrent, seems to have been meant to address gene drift while at the same time creating lifelong monsanto customers. vandana shiva rants extensively about the effects of the biotech industry on india, and specifically engineered seed...and you're right on too about the amount of GMO out there already. the tofu in my lunch and the cotton in my underpants are likely both GMO

Talk about the bizzare implications of this field of research though.....

"It would look like a coffee maker -- this is my dream," he [Mironov] said wistfully. "No one wants to fund it."

One group, which he would not name, did offer him money, but they wanted him to grow meat from human cells, so they could grow pieces of themselves to eat.

"I don't want to participate in high-tech human cannibalism," he said he told them.

any guesses....? The Raelians maybe?

there Tim, did I do a good job duscussing it? That was my first time duscussing anything, so I was a little nervous.

the bit about the people who wanted human cells was the first thing that niffer picked up on too...ewwww~!

but $15 a month x however many people, is a good chunk of change that is no longer being re-distributed for the greater good.

what, $15 is too much to pass around to your neighbours?

28 million canadians

=say 10 million homes x $15

= $150,000,000 per month that could go to do something productive. mind you, 6 beers will make me feel better about my government

i think this is great. think of all the 3rd world countries that could benefit from this. peoples whose land is too arid to sustain growth and thus animals could have an excellent source of protein for their diets...not that man juice isn't a good source, but let's get a grip on population control people.

this does seem a bit star treky to me, and i'm sure 5 years probably isn't a feasable time line, but i can see this being a "norm" within our lifetimes.

think of how land use would be completely different....the possibilities are endless.

i agree with the last statement, if an alternate source of protein appeard on the scene that required less than 1 kcal of energy input for every 1kcal of food energy, that would change a lot in the world food system...but there are so many reasons that this is the wrong approach. if you are what you eat, i don't want to be an amorphous blob of meat

the world's food problems are not a supply problem as much as they are a distribution problem. the World Bank and the IMF encouraged so many countries in the developing world to grow crops for export and to embrace the "green revolution" in agriculture (monocropping, "terminator" seed, pesticide & fertilizer input, basically Moinsanto's product line...). this has mostly screwed these countries, with the exception of those places that have given up on the green revolution and gone back to traditional farming methods and seed saving.

add to that the political dimension...many starving people have their access to food & water blocked by civil war and corruption. (i can just see the appeals for donation now..."your $50 will bribe four sudanese customs officials and allow the relief shipments to reach their intended recipients.")

and alexis, please don't think that i'm shooting your argument down...raising animals for meat is horribly inneficient and largely inhumae. my friend iliana will not eat bacon any more after a harrowing morning in traffic stuck next to a pig truck full of sad-eyed pigs who obviously knew something about where they were headed this specific approach just gives me the screaming heebie-jeebies...

To H@LL with the Geneva Convention... were Americans for Petes sake. Without 'US' the world might not go around any more.

sarcasm is denoted around here by the use of [color:purple]purple text.

i'm presuming that you were indeed being sarcastic

and indeed, even in a non-sarcastic sense, the US makes the world go round...without the destabilizing hand of the US, this would be a pretty boring planet.