bradm Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 I caught most of the debate between the candidates in my riding (Ottawa-West-Nepean; John Baird [CPC] is our current MP), and I thought I heard one of the candidates (it might have been the Green one) say something about their platform including putting into place laws that couldn't be undone (or repealed) by later governments. Has anyone seen anything like this from any of the parties? I'm mostly trying to figure out if I correctly remember what I heard, as I'm not sure. (The Green Party's platform document is 160 pages long, so I'd rather not have to hunt through it if possible.)Aloha,Brad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phishtaper Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 as far as i know the only "law" that is un-repealable is the constitution ... and even that can theoretically be changed, albeit with great difficulty. maybe im naive but ive always thot that all laws can be modified by legislatures and/or struck down by courts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradm Posted October 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 as far as i know the only "law" that is un-repealable is the constitution ... and even that can theoretically be changed, albeit with great difficulty. maybe im naive but ive always thot that all laws can be modified by legislatures and/or struck down by courts. Well, that's what I thought (and I shudder at the possibility of a government being able to pass a law that couldn't be repealed by a subsequent government), which is why I'm trying to find out if what I (think I) heard is actually in a party's platform.The schedule for Rogers Ottawa's candidates' debates is athttp://www.rogerstv.com/get.asp?lid=16&rid=4&tid=25519&ttl=6&arid=4and it looks like my riding's debate will be re-aired on Monday, so I'll try to stay up and catch it all.Aloha,Brad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattm Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 as far as i know the only "law" that is un-repealable is the constitution ... and even that can theoretically be changed' date=' albeit with great difficulty. maybe im naive but ive always thot that all laws can be modified by legislatures and/or struck down by courts. [/quote']Well, that's what I thought (and I shudder at the possibility of a government being able to pass a law that couldn't be repealed by a subsequent government)...Aloha,BradI too shudder. Laws have to be able to change with society or the times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AD Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 i don't know if there is a mechanism that would make a law un-repealable, but there are certainly many laws that i would have no problem making that way. even though i do agree with all the philosophical positions posted here about laws not changing etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdy Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 The only laws I would potentially feel ok about making un-repealable are those concerning their environment... but then on the other hand, what we know about the environment is subject to how far science has taken us.I agree with AD... i don't think it's really even possible to do this and i too agree with all the philosophical psitions against it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AD Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 The only laws I would potentially feel ok about making un-repealable are those concerning their environment... i was thinking more along the lines of murder, rape, assault, etc.... but i guess people are kind of doing that to the environment too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdy Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 What do you mean by murder, rape, assault? Like... not being able to repeal the Criminal Code? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AD Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 well maybe i'm not all that familiar with how the Code works. Is it, all in one, "the law"? or is the Code made up of many many laws? know what i mean? if there is a law against murder, and another law against rape, i can't see what government down the line would want / need to repeal that, and i'd have no issue with that. but at the same time i think no law should be un-repealable. what a twisted question bradm asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaggyBalls Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 I think the repealing there would be in the judgement of the act and of the crime.Stiffer penalties, different nuances of human psychology that comes to light etc.Now repealing the no right on red law in Quebec...I'm all for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AD Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 yeah, i don't think i know enough about how laws are created or defined to really make much of a statement in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdy Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 I'm not overly sure about the Criminal Code being the be all and end all... i'm inclined to think so, but?? I'll find out about that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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