Esau. Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Someone has poor judgement. Bad move in my opinion.YouTube to block indie labels as subscription service launchesYouTube will remove music videos by artists such as Adele, Arctic Monkeys and Radiohead, because the independent labels to which they belong have refused to agree terms with the site.Google, which owns YouTube, has been renegotiating contracts as it prepares to launch a music subscription service.A spokesperson for the indie labels said YouTube was making a "grave error of commercial judgment".YouTube said it was bringing "new revenue streams" to the music industry.Speaking to the Financial Times, Robert Kyncl, YouTube's head of content and business operations, said videos from independents could be blocked "in a matter of days," if new licenses are not negotiated.The three major record labels - Universal, Sony and Warner - have all agreed terms with the site, but smaller independents are holding out.'Lack of respect'Some independents say they are being offered "highly unfavourable terms". Radiohead guitarist Ed O'Brien accused Google of trying to "strong-arm" labels into accepting low fees.Read More: http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-27891883YouTube To Remove Some Really Great Music In 'A Matter Of Days'YouTube just hit the big red button in its fight with musicians over streaming music.Any artist who doesn't want to join YouTube's new ad-free music service will be scrubbed from the site entirely, the company said on Tuesday. The service, which will show you ad-free songs for a small fee, has been in the works for a while, but some artists are not happy with the financial arrangements YouTube is proposing.YouTube's head of content and business operations told the Financial Times that artists who aren't happy with the new rules, including Adele, the Arctic Monkeys and Jack White, will be blacklisted from YouTube in "a matter of days."Read More: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/17/youtube-block-adele-arctic-monkeys_n_5503143.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Low Roller Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Well that sucks for the end user for certain.Thankfully there are alternatives to YouTube that will certainly benefit from this such as Daily Motion and Vimeo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esau. Posted June 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Well that sucks for the end user for certain.Thankfully there are alternatives to YouTube that will certainly benefit from this such as Daily Motion and Vimeo.Yeah I can see that. A downside to vimeo (aside from also being US Based) is if someone is a rather active uploader (+5GBs a week) they'll need subscription which costs $60 a year. Especially if they prefer HD videos. Some indie labels I would consider to be business or commercial level users according to vimeo, so I assume they would be required to get PRO accounts but an artist who have their own small scale label wouldn't. I'm not sure I understand vimeo's policy entirely on that.From wiki:On October 16, 2008, Vimeo unveiled its $60-per-year Vimeo Plus package, which allows users additional weekly uploads (up to 5 GB), unlimited HD videos, unlimited creation of channels, groups and albums, no ads, HD embeds, 2-pass video re-encoding that results in higher quality, priority encoding, and more. The arrival of Vimeo Plus also meant the downgrade of the free version, which up to that point also enjoyed unlimited HD re-encodings per week and unlimited creation of groups/albums/channels. Since February 2010, Plus users can choose to re-encode their 1080p upload as either 1080p or 720p. As of July 22, 2010, the site offers unlimited HD embeds.[22] As of January 4, 2011, Vimeo Plus users can upload videos that are up to five gigabytes of footage, roughly equivalent to 2.5 hours of HD video.[23] This makes it possible for full length, high-definition feature films to be uploaded to Vimeo by Vimeo Plus users.On August 1, 2011, Vimeo introduced the PRO account type for business and commercial use, which allows 50GB of storage, 250k plays, advanced analytics, third party video player support and more. Everyone except "small scale independent production companies, non-profits, and artists who want to use the Vimeo Service to showcase or promote their own creative works"[24] must become Vimeo PRO subscribers in order to upload commercial videos or use Vimeo for their business's video hosting needs.Regardless, its looking more and more like the days of free viewing or uploading are drawing to an end. Which could be good or bad I suppose. Might spawn a new hosting site, or at the least filter a lot of the crap. Either way, I imagine it's going be frustrating and an adjustment for some time, especially for the end user who is a viewer only (like me). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Chameleon Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 It also really sucks for the musicians.Here is what is really happening.1. Youtube has unintentionally become the the most used music streaming site int he world. It was never designed for that purpose.2. Youtube eventually realizes this and is looking for a way to make real money of subscription services as Apple is on the cusp or rolling out a streaming service and Spotify is already occupying a lot of the market share.3. Google is offeri9ng rates of 65% of what Spotify and Rdio pay out, and those companies already play offensively low rates.4. The Major labels in fear of this becoeming another napster (missed opportunity) are too eager to jump on the band wagon. The Majors have already signed on at a slightly better but still low rate per stream. They have the capital to do so and are desperate.5. Indies are now squeezed out unless they play ball for the same rates, but likely lower the majors and the bar is then set.Result: A precidetn will be set and other streaming serfvices like Spotify, Rdio, Rhapsody, Pandora will eventually pay the same as Youtube is the biggest and they are paying rock bottom.In the end musicians, publishers, songwriters and ironically the major labels will get majorly exploited and screwed over.I hope they run themselves into the ground and everyone jumps ship to vimeo.Sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c-towns Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 Music Vault Archive of 13,000 Videos Released On YouTube The legendary Music Vault has just released their 13,000 video archive onto YouTube today. With a collection spanning back to the 1960's, this once-limited collection can now be streamed for free. So just what videos are available? How about The Grateful Dead performing at an acid test with Ken Kesey in 1966? Or a full-length Dead concert from 77? Not impressed? They also have iconic concerts from The Who at Tanglewood in 1970, Bob Dylan, The Allman Brothers (with Duane Allman), James Brown, Bruce Springsteen, and even more modern bands, like Deer Tick, St. Vincent, Fleet Foxes, and more. According to Music Vault content editor Bill Antonucci, "after two years restoring, transferring, mixing and mastering thousands of tapes from our enormous archive, we're thrilled and extremely proud to share this massive treasure with the YouTube music community.†We're thrilled too Bill! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c-towns Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 Music Vault has been at it again, steadily uploading a stream of Grateful Dead and Dead-family concerts over the past week and a half.Their collection includes several full Dead concerts, including: -6/18/76, 4/27/77, 11/24/78 at the Capitol Theatre-08/05/79, 12/27/79, 12/28/79, 12/30/79, 12/26/80, 12/30/80 and 12/31/81 in Oakland-12/30/77 and 12/31/77 at Winterland-9/24/88 at MSG-10/29/80, 10/30/80 and 10/31/80 at Radio City Music Hall-12/31/90 at the Oakland Coliseum with Bradford Marsalis-12/30/83 and 12/31/83 at the San Francisco Civic Auditorium (now Bill Graham)-5/28/82 at Moscone Center-10/13/80 at Warfield Theatre-08/04/76 at Roosevelt StadiumThe full collection also includes some Jerry Garcia Band performances, as well as a Jerry Garcia & Bob Weir show from 12/04/88.https://www.youtube.com/user/musicvault/videos hamilton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booche Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 There is some gold in there right now! Everyone should subscribe to the Music Vault. https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UUCwXWdQplS9iGCr1ivXHcJg&v=oCfRqEUlsUM&feature=player_detailpage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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c-towns Posted December 31, 2014 Report Share Posted December 31, 2014 Couch Tour Captures is another good subscription https://www.youtube.com/user/mkespace/videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c-towns Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 More Dead love... https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9dWluHyEwvIj5NNs7KkJ0A/playlists?sort=dd&view=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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