Rob Not Bob Posted January 23, 2003 Report Share Posted January 23, 2003 Hey ho, I brought one of my Zappa boots (Sydney , Australia, June 23, 1973) and was just wondering if there was any Zappa love on the board or in the Jam Bands community in general. I confess I'm a little surprised that there isn't a whole bunch of talk of him in the scene, because I have a whole bunch of live stuff of his and there seems to be a heck of a lot of jamming/improvisation going on, and even the basic frame of the arrangement for individual pieces seemed to change drastically from tour to tour. Zappa seemed to place a high value on sponatanaity in his shows (in one of his books he chides Jean Luc Ponty for seemingly playing the exact same solo all the time during his stay with the Mothers Of Invention). Perhaps some of the coarse content of a bunch of his songs might throw people off, and even I'm not about to argue that every one of his 8000 or so commercially released albums is a gem, but fans of intricate instrumental work should check out some of his more adventuresome albums .... hey, Phish dig Zappa, you should too Rob Not Bob Maintaining Conceptual Continuity NP : Phish - Big Cypress, 12/31/99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tungsten Gruvsten Posted January 23, 2003 Report Share Posted January 23, 2003 hey Rob not Bob; (reminds me of Was(not Was) I've been a Zappa fan since highschool, a friend got me into him good and early... I have all the studio albums plus a whack of bootlegs.... maybe some trading is in line? He's a fuggin unreal guitarist...strange technique and all. He's made some weird choices over the years concerning bands and sounds(ie Steve Vai or Chad Wackerman) but his music is unbelievable... Here's the boots i'm looking for: 69-02-23 Pachuco Hop 70-12-10 (Fillmore) I have the australian 73 show, a texas show from 75, a radio broadcast with Beefheart from 75, Paris 70, a couple of 80's and Eyes of Osaka here, friends of mine have a couple others i can't think of of the top of my head... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradm Posted January 23, 2003 Report Share Posted January 23, 2003 I'm a major-league Zappa fan; I'm currently reading "The Dangerous Kitchen: The Subversive World Of Zappa" by Kevin Courrier (available from the Ottawa Public Library), a seriously dense discussion of Zappa in terms of socio-political commentary, along with a fair bit of biography and historical material. In a lot of ways, I think it's better than "The Negative Dialectics Of Poodle Play". Aloha, Brad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Not Bob Posted January 24, 2003 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2003 Well, you can check out my list (link is in my profile) if there is anything I have that you don't .... I also have 2/24/73, from Duke University which isn't on my list yet. Rob Not Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booche Posted January 24, 2003 Report Share Posted January 24, 2003 NP: The Roxy and Elsewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zimmerman pt3 Posted January 24, 2003 Report Share Posted January 24, 2003 why does it hurt when I pee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shainhouse Posted January 24, 2003 Report Share Posted January 24, 2003 keep it greasy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peacedude Posted January 24, 2003 Report Share Posted January 24, 2003 so it'll go down easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermontdave Posted January 24, 2003 Report Share Posted January 24, 2003 We're only in it for the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamilton Posted January 24, 2003 Report Share Posted January 24, 2003 Some excellent Zappa choices (IMHO): Burnt Weenie Sandwich Waka/Jawaka Hot Rats The Grand Wazoo, if you want some instrumental greatness, or Freak Out! We're Only In It For The Money, for early Mothers weirdness, or just about any of the live albums - I recommend the many which are available from the 1988 tours - I particularly like Make A Jazz Noise Here; Roxy & Elsewhere ('73?) is also a great disc. The "Beat The Boots" series is also supposed to be good, but I haven't heard any of them (sound quality varies, apparently, but all are listenable from what I understand). As Rob (not Bob) said though, I don't always feel like hearing about ramming things up people's poop chutes or poodles performing cunnilingus, so some albums get less play than others - but, as was also mentioned, Zappa was a great guitarist, and like Miles, usually employed some of the best young sidemen in the industry... so there's something for everyone! What's got into you, Suzy Creamcheese? Brian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phishgoof Posted January 24, 2003 Report Share Posted January 24, 2003 Dos anyone have any zappa shows that want to trade? I love zappa and will trade for him.He is an musical genius.Alot of bands wish they could play as good as him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weezy Posted January 24, 2003 Report Share Posted January 24, 2003 His autobiography is one of the most entertaining books I've ever read. I love Frank - I wish I could afford to buy all of his releases, but there's like 90 of them or something... There's a song called Marleena (I think) can some Zappa freak confirm the name of it? some lyrics: "I called up all my baby's friends and ask'n em', where she done been. But nobody round-here seems to know - where my Marleena's been" "Ten long years I been lovin' her, ten long years and I thought deep-down in my heart she was miiiiiine" then there's a killer funky fiddle solo for like 10 minutes" Is that a real poncho or a Sears poncho? hmmm, no fooling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Not Bob Posted January 24, 2003 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2003 Weezy : The name of the song is "Sharleena", I think the version you are talking about is on The Lost Episodes, although there are killer versions of it on a number of his other albums as well. Hamilton : Waka/Jakawaka, Grand Wazoo and especially Burnt Weeny Sandwich are some of Uncle Frank's sadly most underrated works, some of his best instrumental stuff is on those albums. Rob Not Bob Just like a penguin in bondage, boinggggggg ..... NP : Pink Floyd - Meddle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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