you can actually subscribe to this topic. I'm gonna try that and see what it does. I think you'll get email updates? all right then. while this post probably should have ben in purple, i have been enjoying the lively discourse, and no wi will enjoy being a "jambands topic subscription beta tester." and fwiw, the very few times i have picked up a copy of exclaim, it has made a record fast trip to the recycling bin. i donm't know if adversarial was the right approach, but three cheeers to you luke for rattling their cages.