thatpatguy

I think that's why you beat me to the answer.. I went to get the exact figures

a buddy of mine used to work for the company hired to set up the database.. apparently they got at least 10 hate emails a day and two or three hate snail mails a week.. plus a bomb scare or two..

crazy people everywhere

pretty much.

In Canada, since 1995, you need a license to own a gun. You needed special permission to own a "restricted weapon", which I believe means something like an automatic rifle (machine gun).

If you just had a hunting rifle or shotgun you just need a license and that was that. You didn't need to register anything.

The Gun Registry requires ALL gun owners to register their firearms with the government, regardless of the type of gun or it's purpose. This means a significant increase in the number of gun owners who were never subjected to controls to now be subjected to them (largely because the Government didn't know what you had).

My understanding is that the biggest complaint on the gun registry is the cost. When it was initially brought before the house the Liberals said it would cost $119 million dollars. But there is a fee to register your gun and those fees would cover $117 million, there by leaving $2 million to be covered by the taxpayers.

The Auditor General, however, revealed that the Department of Justice figured it would cost more like $2 billion and $140 million will be collected in fees.. so.. a bit more expensive than originally presented.

I agree though, I think a list of guns in our country is good.

*EDIT* ummm.. yeah.. what Chad said

how many people are bringing instruments? If my buddy Jason joins me we'll both have saxophones for some lot/camping jams.. that or I can bring my banjo

I'll be there

Note to self, play with bands that have some common musical grounds, better for the bands and better for the preople there who pay to enjoy it. None the less, a fun evening.

I used to play in the quasi funk band and for some reason we got in really good with Eugene Haslam (this is back when he used to book for Barrymore's as well as Zaphods).

It was good for us because got lots of gigs, but bad for us at the same time because he usually paired us with bands that had nothing to do with funk.

I think the two strangest pairings we had was when we opened for Big Rude Jake doing this punk power trio kinda thing, and when he paired us with Carol Pope.. so strange.. so I know your pain

Hey, did anyone make it out past the storm to see Herbie play?? how was it??

did you guys have a good turn out last night? we surprisingly did. I was expecting the place to be dead with everyone at Herbie but though it wasn't packed we had a good number of people in the place last night and they all stuck around until the end of the night.

We were supposed to wrap it up at 11:30 but the audience was still there and the energy was good so we did one more set and played until about 12:30..

Marvin the Martian riding down a highway in central Indiana

this was an interesting article from the Globe and Mail. I thought it was an interesting view and certainly makes me want to review the policies of the Green party more closely..

here is the article:

The Greens are right, right?

By MURRAY DOBBIN

Globe and Mail Wednesday, Jun 16, 2004

It is intriguing to watch the coverage of the Green Party in the federal election because the conventional wisdom -- that it will take votes from the NDP -- is confounded by the party's actual policies. While the analysis is likely correct, a look at Green policies reveals that this party is really a Conservative alternative, not a social democratic one. Its fiscal, economic and even environmental policies would be a near perfect fit for the old Progressive Conservative party.

In fact, the Greens are led by a former Tory, Jim Harris, and under his direction have become the quintessential small government, pro-market party.

Their social analysis says virtually nothing about the structural causes of poverty, and their solutions borrow from both the former PCs and the Alliance. They talk about how a Green government would "enhance the existing network of . . . school nutrition . . . and food-bank programs . . ." to eliminate hunger in Canada. Those who study poverty with a view to ending it see food banks not as a solution, but as a symbol of everything that is wrong with the way governments approach poverty.

The party is committed to smaller government in a way that no other party is, except the new Conservatives. With respect to the devastated federal public service -- characterized by massive downsizing, unprecedented stress

levels, completely inadequate staffing to carry out department mandates and years without real increases in pay -- the Green Party has a single response, and it sounds a lot like Stephen Harper's: "Reform the public sector to be more responsive and accountable." This is union busting by

another name, and seems to promise the continuation of the right-wing assault on government employees. If you want the public service to be "responsive," the logical solution is to return it to functional staffing levels.

The Greens' fiscal policies are among their most reactionary and problematic. They toe the Bay Street line by promising to "lower taxes on income, profit and investment, to promote increased productivity and job creation." As for addressing the problem of chronically high unemployment, the party takes a page out of Paul Martin's book of maintaining extremely low inflation -- Greens will still fight inflation by putting people out of work unless unemployment rises above 10 per cent. These policies have been notable failures for the past 15 years -- lowering wages, increasing the

productivity gap with the United States and creating mostly low-wage jobs -- and certainly have no place in the platform of a party that pitches its appeals to social democrats.

Any increase in revenue from promised Green taxes on "harmful activities" would be neutralized by lowering income taxes, the most progressive and fair taxes we have. The Greens also call for an increase in property taxes, a

regressive tax. They are committed to using surpluses to ". . . reduce the national debt." In other words, the party is to the right of all the major parties, which are now committing billions for spending on social programs that Canadians say they want.

One of the most remarkable aspects of the Green platform is the lack of any commitment to using government legislation or regulation to accomplish core environmental goals.

Here are just a few examples: "The Green Party will: Empower [bioregional] stewards to seek intervener status in legal actions that impact the health of the ecosystem; . . . work with local environmental groups to reduce pollution levels in the air, water and soil; promote sustainability through

education; and monitor the diversity of species, the levels of pollution and the health of the ecosystem." These are not the actions of a government committed to using its mandated power to actually protect the environment. The party also supports the corporate sector's position on self-regulation:

"The Green Party will assist and encourage Canadian companies to attain ISO 14000 certification, the international standard for management." The ISO 14000 has been almost universally condemned by the international environmental movement as ineffective and unreliable.

Those Canadians thinking of voting Green because they believe it is progressive had better do their homework. There is more to this party than the user-friendly name would suggest.

Murray Dobbin is author of Paul Martin: CEO for Canada?

it's crazy that Groovy hosts bands now.. I have yet to go to his new digs.. are they any good?

Skip your show Patty, anbd join us at Herbie....ya know ya wanna!

I do.. I really do.. but I can't.. sigh

and it's Paddy (Patty is for Patricia)

you realize I hate all of you guys going tonight eh..

but it's a good hate

Anyone else like the Beastie Boys?

I still cannot decide if I like this album or not...Some of it reminds me of Organized Rhyme, while some of it reminds me of old school DJ Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince...but thier are some classic beastie lines...It ain't no Ill Communication that's fer sure...

Thoughts?

I've got it.. spun it a few times.. it hasn't grabbed me yet. oh well.. we are all allowed to release some uninspired work from time to time.. I mean if we aren't Neil Young would have been out of a job ages ago

ok.. let the flames engulf me

Just do not vote conservative or he'll be out next week.

that or publically exicuted (sp?)

so here's the thing...

the guy is obviously sick.. and hopefully realized this through the actions of a kick ass dog (photos of my kick ass dog here)..

so.. there are all these charges laid against him, which makes sense.. I agree with that.. I just fear that maybe he won't get the help that he needs. That maybe they won't realize he's a sick man and needs serious medical attention but rather he'll just get convicted and go to jail and there will be no real rehabilitation.

yeah.. sometimes I worry too much

how do you spell that kinda laugh that creepy old men get.. you know the one where it's this whistly/squeeky exhale thing.. cuz they've smoked way too many cigarettes in their life..

that's what I want to write here..

so instead..

baaaahhhahahahahaha

haaaaaaaaaaa

dude, you cant do that to stoners at the library.

well.. you can..

I just wouldn't advise it for the results may be unpredictable

goes to show you all the money that can be made in the Canadian rock circuit eh

I hope this is cool advertising here.. if not I'm sorry..

but if it is.. I've got a two bedroom, two floor condo available for rent in Orleans (Ottawa). It can be available for middle of July (maybe even the first of July). PM me if you want more info.

thanks everyone..

well.. if we are getting into July dates..

The Crowd @ Tucson's (Bank and Huntclub) on July 9th and 10th

and

The Crowd @ Bluesfest on July 17th.. mainstage starting at 12:30

sounds like it's too bad they threw the towel in.. almost like they were just a bit ahead of their time..

at least I've got that Three Seeds record.. and rediscovered it

well.. I just got off the phone with Brian Downey and it looks like I'll be playing with the Brian Downey big band at The Bayou Blues and Jazz Bar (Bank and Sunnyside) tonight starting at 8:00

come on out if you want some good beer and some jazzy live music.. think of it as a warm up to the jazz festival

get the record back out.. I'm glad I did.. it's fun to put on albums you haven't heard in ages and rediscover good bands.

and my research has told me that they have broken up and the lead singer guy is writting songs for Avril.. hmmm..

Does anyone remember this band? I think they were from Toronto. I've got their album Three Seeds (their first major label release) and just recently dug it out and popped it in.

wow.. I forgot how good these guys were.. I'm figuring they are long gone by now but if anyone has any info that would be great.

I agree that if Harper and the conservatives gain power we are in a lot of trouble.. but I've been thinking..

first off.. though I would never want to see a conservative government, especially one under the new party, if we had to have one if we had a mintory it wouldn't be nearly as bad bedcause they would have a hard time passing anything..

but mostly I've been thinking about what's happening in the US.. I doubt Junior will win his second term so what would happen if Canada had a Conservative government with the Democrats in the white house..

and if Junior doesn't win he will become only the second president in the history of the US to win a war and lost his second term.. second only to his Dad (who happened to win his war against the same advisary).. I find that funny

cool pat, i'll be at herbie, but i definitley want to check out 'the crowd'.. i've been seeing the posters around for years, but just havent taken initiative. now theres no excuse.

well.. I'll keep posting our gigs here.. hopefully we won't always be competing with the majors

you know, come to think of it, I missed both Herbie and Prince the last times they were here because of Crowd gigs..