aberg83 Posted March 31, 2002 Report Share Posted March 31, 2002 Graham and I are facing a slight dilemma... we really wanna get a board patch tomorrow night but are too chicken to confront the dudes at dekcuf... you think you guys, with all your immesurable influence, could ask for us? We wanna do a sbd + 4 mic matrix... it will be amazing.. to really get the feel of the show. But we're wankers... so if you can help, talk to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secondtube Posted March 31, 2002 Report Share Posted March 31, 2002 ummmm just ask, i've never heard worse than a "no, sorry, not tonight." Usually "ya sure, just don't spill drinks on the board"peaceoh and maybe buy him a beer later on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secondtube Posted March 31, 2002 Report Share Posted March 31, 2002 ummmm just ask, i've never heard worse than a "no, sorry, not tonight." Usually "ya sure, just don't spill drinks on the board"peaceoh and maybe buy him a beer later on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treyter Posted March 31, 2002 Report Share Posted March 31, 2002 u guys are a coupla queens. maybe instead of going to nero you should go down the street to the mall, and buy eachother some skirts or maybe a little sundress or 2? see you there sweeties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PassedOutGuy Posted March 31, 2002 Report Share Posted March 31, 2002 nicely put Treyter, iev always thought a bright pink or off red would go good on Graham, I dont know Aberg's skin tone so ull have to make the call there... have Phun tonight ya'll i wish I was there.. good luck on the taping too... if the mall doesnt keep ya busy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blane Posted March 31, 2002 Report Share Posted March 31, 2002 Hey guys, be careful with a 4 mic matrix. you might run into phasing issues, especially if you're limited in where you can place them. basically, having a stereo pair of mics, then placing a third (or fourth) mic into the mix risks putting the mix out of phase, since the sound will hit the extra mic at a different time, and it will be combined with the other two signals. Sorta like pressing play on 3 copies of the same cd at *almost* the same time.Anyhow, give it a shot if you like, but maybe a 2mic+sbd mix would be more reliable.good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h Posted March 31, 2002 Report Share Posted March 31, 2002 hey cool! where are your tix? we're 4th row center ya ya ya! just outta spitting range.ok i'm spending too much time sitting here replying to every thread -> procrastinating getting ready... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Sanchez Posted March 31, 2002 Report Share Posted March 31, 2002 I have a feeling that sound board patches are not going to happen. no harm in asking though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aberg83 Posted March 31, 2002 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2002 Wow, I totally didn't understand any of that phase stuff... we're rookies in terms of taping and we've never done a matrix before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aberg83 Posted March 31, 2002 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2002 Well, they would only give us the digital patch, but Graham as the appropriate cable. Either way, we'll tape the show on mics if we can't get a patch so it's not a big deal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aberg83 Posted March 31, 2002 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2002 Oh, and I resent that mall comment! hahaha, jerks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PassedOutGuy Posted April 1, 2002 Report Share Posted April 1, 2002 Sorry Aberg, as I said before that was pretty much directed at Harpua, or Makisupa Policeman, or Phishhead5000 or whomever he is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tungsten Gruvsten Posted April 1, 2002 Report Share Posted April 1, 2002 Sometimes the phase differences and subsequent 'comb-filter' effect can be fixed by simply using the phase flip button...it will either say 'phase' or have a '0' with a slash through it. Not all preamps have them but you can do it manually by flipping pins 2 and 3 on each mic cables XLR connector-you can get adapters to do this or make some small cables that are just for this purpose...they can come in VERY handy.Otherwise, use a trick they do in live sound for speaker stacks out further in the crowd-use a digital delay to change the time position of one source against the other-in this case it would be one set of mic's delayed in time against the other set. Use a clean stereo delay, no feedback, no modulation of any kind, and a setting between 5 and 100 msec...as you adjust the delay time you'll hear the sound changing...it's like a phaser only you are manually moving the 'phasing' sound. You'll hit a spot that just sounds good, the bass will be full and not scooped out....It's not as complicated as it sounds, does require a bit of practice and some set up time tho...Also, this is only if you are mixing all the sources down to 2 tracks while you are recording...if you're recording to some sort of multitrack then you could just move the sources in the timeline later....T. Gruvsten Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleB Posted April 1, 2002 Report Share Posted April 1, 2002 Just ask guys.....I will be glad to help out, but I just had Kids In the Hall tickets drop into my lap and will be arriving late.The worst thing that can happen is they say no.... I suspect they will be accomodating for tonights show, and after we are done with em, they will accomodating for every show from now on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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