MarcO Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 it's all yours, quien. Have a ball!! :: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwa. Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 i like the beatles myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmyB Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 I don't think so, not even close. Here's some bands that are greater than the Grateful Dead. The Beatles (the greatest ever, period. What were you thinking MarcO making this thread?), The Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, The Byrds, The Beach Boys, U2 just to name a few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavinginthewind Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 I don't think so, not even close. Here's some bands that are greater than the Grateful Dead. The Beatles (the greatest ever, period. What were you thinking MarcO making this thread?), The Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, The Byrds, The Beach Boys, U2 just to name a few. U2???! keep up the good work [color:"purple"]FRENCHY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple foot Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 u2? good bye credability. thats rediculous. what are you basing this on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bONES Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 The Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, The Byrds, The Beach Boys, U2 just to name a few. yuck! are you serious?? The Grateful Dead are indeed the best band EVER! next to DSO of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmyB Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 u2? good bye credability. thats rediculous. what are you basing this on? Have you actually listened to a U2 album or seen them in concert? U2 are one of the few bands in the history of music that have had the pressure of the entire planet watching them waiting to see what their next album would be like. And U2 have delivered on a number of occasions. They are one of the only bands to have stayed vibrant and significant to the world over the coarse of three different decades. And I mean the "world" not some relatively small community of hippies. And U2 have accomplished this with the original four boys that started out in the early eighties. Name how many groups that lasted as long as U2 dominated the music industry with no line up changes? Nobody, not the Rolling Stones, not Pink Floyd, not the Who, not a one. The only one I can think of is ZZ Top but they aren't in the same league as U2. That reminds me The Who are greater than the Grateful Dead as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggrtrhhrtgg Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 you must be joking!!! U2 is a pop-band! They have produced a work of art since auctungbaby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggrtrhhrtgg Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 and the Who?? ya, they have really had alot of influence on culture, politics.... my just look at all them whoheads??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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secondtube Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 The Beatles (the greatest ever, period. What were you thinking MarcO making this thread?), The Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, The Byrds, The Beach Boys, U2 just to name a few. I would just like to say, having seen the Stones, they dont rate high enough to scrape the gum off the bottom of my shoes. U2 may have been good, but at least other bands on that list knew when to give up, instead of sellout. U2's latest single, is the biggest piece of crap on the radio today. Yay, lets copy modern crap chord structure, and make an even crappier song around it. Sure, everyone loves the Joshua Tree, but to compare them to the Grateful Dead, who impressed fans for over 30 years, is just ludicrus! And to finalize this little rant, what makes a band the best? I feel the Beatles aren't even CLOSE to being the best band ever, so to me, they aren't the best band ever. Even if 10 000 people say they ARE the best band ever, that doesnt' make them the best band ever, because to me, they aren't. We are talking about something that is very subjective... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggrtrhhrtgg Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 AMEN --- Secondtube! :: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmyB Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 and the Who?? ya, they have really had alot of influence on culture, politics.... my just look at all them whoheads??? The Deadhead phenomenon is not a very large culture. It exists almost exclusively in the United States of America. I think the cultural the Grateful Dead are overstated here. What member of the Grateful Dead have been involved in politics? And how has the music of the Grateful Dead influenced American politics? I'd really like to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guigsy Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 i hope this thread goes all day, cuz you guys got me in stitches over here.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmyB Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 Yay, lets copy modern crap chord structure, and make an even crappier song around it. Sure, everyone loves the Joshua Tree, but to compare them to the Grateful Dead, who impressed fans for over 30 years, is just ludicrus! The Edge is a great guitarist that has a very unique style. Not too many guitarists have sounded like him. The Grateful Dead impress crowds because everybody in the audience are high. You know the joke. Also have the Grateful Dead impressed people when it comes to their albums? Yes they recorded two great records in 1970, wow that's impressive. They only existed from 1965 to 1995. Two great studio albums in thirty years does not impress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bONES Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 pressure of the entire planet ummmm, i'm living on this planet and i don't give a CRAP about U2 or when they'll release their next bit of garbage. they are pop star sellouts or in otherwords....they suck ass and I love the Deads studio work i'll listen to Built to Last or In the Dark any day before a U2 cd hell, i can't even stand WAR or Under a Blood Red Sky anymore and those were definately U2's best music. and as far as being political...i love that the Dead never told me who to believe in or support politically Bono can kiss my ass Jerry and the Grateful Dead have influenced me like NO OTHER and that has absolutely nothing to do with drugs! it's all about Jerry's guitar tone, his sweet voice, Bobby's love of country, 2 wicked drummers, the phil zone and those beautiful, incredible Grateful Dead lyrics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggrtrhhrtgg Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 Yay, lets copy modern crap chord structure, and make an even crappier song around it. Sure, everyone loves the Joshua Tree, but to compare them to the Grateful Dead, who impressed fans for over 30 years, is just ludicrus! The Edge is a great guitarist that has a very unique style. Not too many guitarists have sounded like him. The Grateful Dead impress crowds because everybody in the audience are high. You know the joke. Also have the Grateful Dead impressed people when it comes to their albums? Yes they recorded two great records in 1970, wow that's impressive. They only existed from 1965 to 1995. Two great studio albums in thirty years does not impress. Alabama Getaway Alice D Millionaire Alligator Althea At A Siding Attics Of My Life Barbed Wire Whipping Party Believe It Or Not Bertha Bird Song Black Peter Black Throated Wind Black Muddy River Blow Away Blues For Allah Born Cross Eyed Box Of Rain Brokedown Palace Brown Eyed Women Built To Last Candyman Casey Jones Cassidy Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks) Childhood's End China Cat Sunflower China Doll Chinatown Shuffle Comes A Time Corrina Cosmic Charlie Crazy Fingers Cream Puff War Cryptical Envelopment Cumberland Blues Dark Star Day Job Days Between Deal Dire Wolf Doin' That Rag Don't Need Love Dupree's Diamond Blues Easy Wind Easy To Love You Easy Answers The Eleven Equinox Estimated Prophet Eternity Eyes Of The World Far From Me The Faster We Go The Rounder We Get Feel Like A Stranger Fire On The Mountain Foolish Heart France Franklin's Tower Friend Of The Devil From The Heart Of Me Gentlemen, Start Your Engines The Golden Road (To Unlimited Devotion) Greatest Story Ever Told He's Gone Heaven Help The Fool Hell In A Bucket Help On The Way Here Comes Sunshine High Time I Will Take You Home I Need A Miracle If The Shoe Fits If I Had The World To Give It Must Have Been The Roses Jack Straw Just A Little Light King Solomon's Marbles Lady With A Fan Lazy Lightnin' Lazy River Road Let Me Sing Your Blues Away Let It Grow Liberty Looks Like Rain Loose Lucy Loser Lost Sailor Mason's Children Maybe You Know Mexicali Blues Might As Well Milkin' The Turkey Mission In The Rain Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodleloo Mister Charlie Money, Money Mountains Of The Moon The Music Never Stopped My Brother Esau Never Trust A Woman New Potato Caboose New Speedway Boogie Operator The Other One Passenger Picasso Moon Playin' In The Band Pride Of Cucamonga Quadlibet For Tender Feet Ramble On Rose Reuben And Cerise Revolutionary Hamstrung Blues Ripple Rosemary Row Jimmy Sage And Spirit Saint Of Circumstance Saint Stephen Samba In The Rain Scarlet Begonias Shakedown Street Ship Of Fools Slipknot So Many Roads Stagger Lee Standing On The Moon Stella Blue The Stranger (Two Souls In Communion) Stronger Than Dirt Sugar Magnolia Sugaree Sunshine Daydream Sunrise Supplication Tennessee Jed Terrapin Flyer Terrapin Station Terrapin Transit That's It For The Other One They Love Each Other Throwing Stones Till The Morning Comes To Lay Me Down Tons Of Steel Touch Of Grey Truckin' Two Souls In Communion U.S.Blues Unbroken Chain Uncle John's Band Victim Or The Crime Wave To The Wind Wave That Flag Way To Go Home We Can Run We Leave The Castle Weather Report Suite Prelude Weather Report Suite Part 1 Weather Report Suite Part 2 see Let It Grow West L.A. Fadeaway Wharf Rat What's Become Of The Baby The Wheel When Push Comes To Shove wow, where can I get the "two albums with all of these songs on them?" U2 is minor league in this debate... you need to go back to school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmyB Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 pressure of the entire planet ummmm, i'm living on this planet and i don't give a CRAP about U2 or when they'll release their next bit of garbage. they are pop star sellouts or in otherwords....they suck ass and I love the Deads studio work i'll listen to Built to Last or In the Dark any day before a U2 cd hell, i can't even stand WAR or Under a Blood Red Sky anymore and those were definately U2's best music. and as far as being political...i love that the Dead never told me who to believe in or support politically Bono can kiss my ass Jerry and the Grateful Dead have influenced me like NO OTHER and that has absolutely nothing to do with drugs! it's all about Jerry's guitar tone, his sweet voice, Bobby's love of country, 2 wicked drummers, the phil zone and those beautiful, incredible Grateful Dead lyrics Read between the lines, U2 have constantly had the entire planet of rock music media breathing down their backs as they go to record a new album since the mid eighties. The Grateful Dead have never had that kind of pressure ever. I have one question countrycowboy, have you been sober at the majority of Grateful Dead or Dead related shows that you have attended? Also back to the whole political thing. Bono has won awards for his work involving human rights from the NAACP and the UN as well as other organizations. Bono has worked harder than most to save the lives of people that don't have the voice or strength to save themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggrtrhhrtgg Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 Maybe the Grateful Dead were a bit too busy playing live shows for their fans... The media is also breathing down the neck of Brittany Spears--just like the "U2 boys" U2 is a "pop-band" and as far as political influence, Bono is nothing more than an egotistical ambulance chaser... The only time he has been truly concerned about the well-being of any state, was during the seventies and eighties when they were singing about their brothers and sisters in the North... And just maybe, the Grateful Dead have had a little bit of political influence---aka the U.S. democratic party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bONES Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 I have one question countrycowboy, have you been sober at the majority of Grateful Dead or Dead related shows that you have attended? yes. I worked for DSO for a year (147 shows) and NOT being sober and being responsible for the bands sound equipment and instruments is not cool. or my style. as far as the Dead shows I went to, it varied. the majority of the time i had fun and experimented with a few different intoxicants. I've been hooked on the Grateful Dead for many years. sober or not, they are my favourite band of all time. always will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyberHippie Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 I think Whitesnake is the best band ever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmyB Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 Maybe the Grateful Dead were a bit too busy playing live shows for their fans... The media is also breathing down the neck of Brittany Spears--just like the "U2 boys" U2 is a "pop-band" and as far as political influence, Bono is nothing more than an egotistical ambulance chaser... The only time he has been truly concerned about the well-being of any state, was during the seventies and eighties when they were singing about their brothers and sisters in the North... And just maybe, the Grateful Dead have had a little bit of political influence---aka the U.S. democratic party. Would Daniel Lanois and Brian Eno produce albums for a pop band? I don't think so. Would Bob Dylan cowrite a song with a pop band? I don't think so. I think you're confusing pop band with a popular rock band. Once again to clarify how have the Grateful Dead influenced American politics over the last forty years. Yes I'm sure some in the political spectrum especially the Democratic party are fans of the Grateful Dead, though that doesn't mean they've influenced American politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 For me, The Grateful Dead are the best band ever, but that's for me. They had beautifully written songs and hands down the most unique of live shows. Sure their last few years got sh!tty but even being at a sh!tty Dead show had it's high points that couldn't compare with most bands in a Large arena or Stadium setting. There was no denying the energy and love brought into a Dead show. They were absolutely at the frontlines and heart of the sixties, musically and consciously speaking anyway. If that can be acknoledged, then I would also say there has never been a period of time that even came close to the cultural and musical explosion that happened at that time. The Dead helped create and carried that torch long after most of the same bands coming out of that period had broken up or done their "farewell tour". Their lack of commercial success contrasted with the phenominum of fans who followed them should be inspiration to any band who can't write a hit song for the radio. If you don't like their music or you rate "best" by hit records or revenue then they can easily not be, the best band ever. For the way I look at a bands greatness and my own tase in music, they are undeniably the BEST BAND EVER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guigsy Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 hahahahaha... U2 IS a pop band. popular rock bands are still pop bands, because, well, pop music is essentially popular music. and popularity doesnt seem to know the bounds of what is rock and what is not.oh, and who gives a fu©k who recorded or co-wrote with them? that logic's stuck in a civ! (psst... what im saying is, it holds no water.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esau Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 Once again to clarify how have the Grateful Dead influenced American politics over the last forty years. Yes I'm sure some in the political spectrum especially the Democratic party are fans of the Grateful Dead, though that doesn't mean they've influenced American politics. I really am having trouble understanding this question or comment,are bands required to influence politics? If so,then how and for what reasons? If they do, is this what has made them the greatest,influencing politics and not their music or talent?Has U2 influenced American politics,I hope not,what kind of goverment lets a band,let alone a band from another country influence their politics? And if they have then perhaps thats why Bush is in for another four I guess.Add another reason why I don't like that band.I could make a list of serious great musicians and/or bands that are tenfold better then U2 and ask how they influnced politics in America,seems like a loaded question really.I've seen the Stones many times,not once did I think it was better then a GD show not even close,perhaps Floyd came close in 86 when I saw em,but they certianly didn't match the GD shows I've seen.Matter of opinion I guess.Plain & simple. Would Daniel Lanois and Brian Eno produce albums for a pop band? I don't think so. Would Bob Dylan cowrite a song with a pop band? I don't think so.Now,this is interesting,Lanois & Eno are hired to do a job and they do it,I doubt they worry too much about what genre the band is in,especially since a pop band wouldn't be looking to hire one of those guys to produce their albums would they?Lets be realistic here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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