\/\/illy Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 Anyone seen An Inconvenient Truth? Depressing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chameleon Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 Yikes!I would hope this would silence all those "global warming nay sayers". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayr Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 Well it is January 3rd and i'm fine in a sweatshirt outside. Not normal. Blue Mountain has 3 out of 35 runs open those poor bastards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timouse Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 watched an inconvenient truth over the holidays, and this lovely sunny day we are having makes me very nervous. another nail in the coffin for canada's polar bears too, i would expect. *sigh*at least the sunshine will make us all feel marginally less sad about the whole sorry mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AD Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 sunshine = weatherweather does not equal climateisolated events such as a warm spell are not harbingers of global warming.(i am not a naysayer, just think that confusing issues helps no-one) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basher Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 Carefull AD, proclaiming a sound counter argument is never met well here. We had a very cold winter last year, funny how no one was celebrating the end of global warming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booche Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 sound counter argumentThat is hysterical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
\/\/illy Posted January 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 Carefull AD, proclaiming a sound counter argument is never met well here. We had a very cold winter last year, funny how no one was celebrating the end of global warming.With all due respect, watch the movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basher Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 Once again, I have to provide the definition of Global Warming.Global Warming is the theory that an increase in C02 in the atmosphere is causing an increase in global average temperatures.There is a great essay on this topic in State of Fear, a work of fiction by Michael Crichton. Anyone who knows his work also knows that he spends 2-3 years working full-time on research before he writes a book. His essay includes amazing and startling work on the topic of global warming, showing BOTH sides of the issue.I am NOT saying that global warming is a myth, but it sounds to me like most of you are arguing that there is climate change, and NOT global warming neccessarily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booche Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 So, what's your definition of Global Cooling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basher Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 Booche, you make it sound like that is MY definition of Global Warming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booche Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 It's your argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basher Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 It is very clear to me that you don't understand what my argument is.Maybe I need to use smaller words.Global Warming not is warmer globe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basher Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 For anyone that read the article, it stated that this is the largest break in the ice shelf in three decades. Did Global Warming" cause the break in the 70's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal Johnson Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 "Ice shelves in Canada's far north have decreased in size by as much as 90 percent since 1906, and global warming likely played a role in the Ayles break, Copland said."Even if there's a smidgen of truth to this, shouldnt that be enough to worry us? And what is Chrichtons OTHER side of the argument? That theres ootles of proof, but untill the world implodes, we shouldnt be worried? I just dont get what anyone gets out of denying the whole stupid mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AD Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 nobody is denying anything the way i read it, it's just that some people are confusing two separate yet equally important issues / new stories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hux Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 Regardless of the particular "dispute" over Climate Change/weather are CO2's nothing to worry about basher?What are you getting at? We shouldn't worry about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal Johnson Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 nobody is denying anything the way i read it, it's just that some people are confusing two separate yet equally important issues / new stories. Ya, I got that. But what if our weather stays this way? How long will we sing this song? How long? How long will we sing this song? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chameleon Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 2005 was the hottest year on record and while Toronto did have a cold spell for a week or two overall it was one of the mildest winters in recent memory.I think it is a little shortsighted to say it's all a coincidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basher Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 Hal, humans are most definitely causing global climate change. That being said, there are many drivers to this, one of which is increased C02 in the atmosphere. It is simplistic to yell Global Warming when you read these articles. That is what I have an issue with. In the late 70's there was an impending doom of a coming ice age.Here's a counter-argument that I will make. Fear breads consumption. Global Warming is one of the great fears of many, yet we all know that as individuals there is little we can do to curb an increase in C02 levels in the atmosphere. Perhaps the reason that Global Warming is such a prevalent fear, over something like sustainable living (aka zero footprint), is that adopting a zero footprint approach to living would cause mass producers significant financial harm.Just a thought.Remember how much profit was made over Y2K fears? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayr Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 I don't think anyone can deny that as a whole our planet is spiraling towards disater. Anyone who does deny this is either ignorant, profitting from it, or living in their own magical bubble. Say what you will...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basher Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 Most definitely a population that uses more energy than it produces/is readily available is spiralling towards disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Boy 2.0 Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 mmmmmmmmmm Fear bread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevO Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 Fear breads consumption. Global Warming is one of the great fears of many, yet we all know that as individuals there is little we can do to curb an increase in C02 levels in the atmosphere.From the intro to Tim Flannery's book, The Weather Makers: "The best evidence indicates that we need to reduce our CO2 emissions by 70 percent by 2050. If you own a four-wheel drive and replace it with a hybrid fuel car, you can achieve a cut of that magnitude in a day reather than half a century. If your electricity provider offers a green option, for the cost of a daily cup of coffee you will be able to make equally major cuts in your household emissions. And if you vote for a politician who has a deep committment to reducing CO2 emissions, you might change the world. If you alone can acheive so much, so too can every individual and, in time, industry and government on Earth. The transition to a carbon-free economy is eminently achievable because we have all the technology we need to do so. it is only a lack of understanding and the pessimism of confusion generated by special interest groups that is stopping us from going forward." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phorbesie Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 (edited) Once again, I have to provide the definition of Global Warming.Global Warming is the theory that an increase in C02 in the atmosphere is causing an increase in global average temperatures.I am NOT saying that global warming is a myth, but it sounds to me like most of you are arguing that there is climate change, and NOT global warming neccessarily. an increase in global average temperatures could cause an ice shelf to break loose, couldn't it? i don't know what you are arguing against here. ps. and last winter was definitely not a cold one...unless you've got some stats for me! Edited January 3, 2007 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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