Jaimoe Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 (edited) It's not as vanilla flavoured as previous lists, but of course it is still open to criticism. What? No TSOOL!Beatles' Sgt. Pepper's Tops List Of 200 Most Influential AlbumsSgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, the hugely influential recording by The Beatles, has been dubbed the most essential album ever made, but an association of music retailers.The U.S. National Association of Recording Merchandisers (NARM) released its 'Definitive 200' list, and the 1967 disc by the Fab Four made top spot.In second, Pink Floyd's 1973 classic, Dark Side of the Moon.Rounding out the top five were Michael Jackson's Thriller, Led Zeppelin IV, by Led Zeppelin, and Joshua Tree by U2.The Rolling Stones' Exile on Main Street just missed the top five, coming in sixth overall.Among the newer albums to make the Definitive 200: Norah Jones's 2002 album Come Away With Me, which hit #27, Outkast's Speakerboxx-Love Below (2003), which arrived at #29, and Green Day's American Idiot (2004), which came in at #61.Choosing which albums made the cut came down to representatives from music retailers as well as the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------DEFINITIVE 200 FINAL RANKED LISTRANK ARTIST TITLE YEAR1 BEATLES SGT. PEPPER'S LONELY HEARTS CLUB BAND 19672 PINK FLOYD DARK SIDE OF THE MOON 19733 MICHAEL JACKSON THRILLER 19824 LED ZEPPELIN LED ZEPPELIN IV 19715 U2 JOSHUA TREE 19876 ROLLING STONES EXILE ON MAIN STREET 19727 CAROLE KING TAPESTRY 19718 BOB DYLAN HIGHWAY '61 REVISITED 19659 BEACH BOYS PET SOUNDS 196610 NIRVANA NEVERMIND 199111 PEARL JAM TEN 199112 BEATLES ABBEY ROAD 196913 SANTANA SUPERNATURAL 199914 METALLICA METALLICA 199115 BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN BORN TO RUN 197516 PRINCE PURPLE RAIN 198417 AC/DC BACK IN BLACK 198018 ROLLING STONES LET IT BLEED 196919 DOORS DOORS 196720 GRATEFUL DEAD AMERICAN BEAUTY 197021 SHANIA TWAIN COME ON OVER 199722 WHO WHO'S NEXT 197123 STEVIE WONDER SONGS IN THE KEY OF LIFE 197624 FLEETWOOD MAC RUMOURS 197725 PINK FLOYD WALL 197926 ALANIS MORISSETTE JAGGED LITTLE PILL 199527 NORAH JONES COME AWAY WITH ME 200228 EMINEM MARSHALL MATHERS LP 200029 OUTKAST SPEAKERBOXX-LOVE BELOW 200330 DR. DRE CHRONIC 199231 BEASTIE BOYS LICENSED TO ILL 198632 GUNS 'N ROSES APPETITE FOR DESTRUCTION 198733 DIXIE CHICKS WIDE OPEN SPACES 199834 MILES DAVIS KIND OF BLUE 195935 EAGLES HOTEL CALIFORNIA 197636 DEF LEPPARD HYSTERIA 198737 SOUNDTRACK GREASE 198038 MARVIN GAYE WHAT'S GOING ON 197839 BEATLES WHITE ALBUM 196840 SOUNDTRACK SATURDAY NIGHT FEVER 197741 JIMI HENDRIX ARE YOU EXPERIENCED? 196742 BEATLES REVOLVER 196643 BOSTON BOSTON 197644 BON JOVI SLIPPERY WHEN WET 198645 U2 ACHTUNG BABY 199146 WHITNEY HOUSTON WHITNEY HOUSTON 198547 LED ZEPPELIN LED ZEPPELIN II 196948 DAVE MATTHEWS BAND CRASH 199649 ROLLING STONES STICKY FINGERS 197150 GREEN DAY DOOKIE 199451 LED ZEPPELIN HOUSES OF THE HOLY 197352 JONI MITCHELL BLUE 197153 ELVIS PRESLEY ELVIS AT SUN 200454 AEROSMITH TOYS IN THE ATTIC 197555 LAURYN HILL MISEDUCATION OF LAURYN HILL 199856 BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN BORN IN THE U.S.A. 198457 50 CENT GET RICH OR DIE TRYIN' 200358 AC/DC HIGHWAY TO HELL 197959 NOTORIOUS B.I.G. LIFE AFTER DEATH 199760 VAN HALEN VAN HALEN 197861 GREEN DAY AMERICAN IDIOT 200462 BLACK SABBATH PARANOID 197163 EMINEM EMINEM SHOW 200064 JEWEL PIECES OF YOU 199565 COLDPLAY RUSH OF BLOOD TO THE HEAD 200266 MEATLOAF BAT OUT OF HELL 197767 USHER CONFESSIONS 200468 KID ROCK DEVIL WITHOUT A CAUSE 199869 GEORGE HARRISON ALL THINGS MUST PASS 197070 BILLY JOEL STRANGER 197771 EAGLES HELL FREEZES OVER 199472 VAN MORRISON MOONDANCE 197073 REM AUTOMATIC FOR THE PEOPLE 199274 PHIL COLLINS NO JACKET REQUIRED 198575 METALLICA MASTER OF PUPPETS 198676 FAITH HILL BREATHE 199977 JOHNNY CASH AT FOLSOM PRISON 196878 JOHN COLTRANE LOVE SUPREME 196479 PINK FLOYD WISH YOU WERE HERE 197580 MICHAEL JACKSON OFF THE WALL 197981 MARVIN GAYE LET'S GET IT ON 197382 BOB SEGER NIGHT MOVES 197683 PAUL SIMON GRACELAND 198684 LINKIN PARK HYBRID THEORY 200085 PRINCE 1999 198386 DEF LEPPARD PYROMANIA 198387 JANET JACKSON CONTROL 198688 RED HOT CHILI PEPPERS BLOOD SUGAR SEX MAGIK 199189 DIRE STRAITS BROTHERS IN ARMS 198590 TUPAC ALL EYEZ ON ME 199691 MATCHBOX TWENTY YOURSELF OR SOMEONE LIKE YOU 199692 RED HOT CHILI PEPPERS CALIFORNICATION 199993 LED ZEPPELIN PHYSICAL GRAFFITI 197594 NELLY COUNTRY GRAMMAR 200095 CREED HUMAN CLAY 199996 CLASH LONDON CALLING 197997 CELINE DION FALLING INTO YOU 199698 NEIL YOUNG HARVEST 197299 SOUNDTRACK DIRTY DANCING 1987100 DIXIE CHICKS HOME 2002101 TOM PETTY FULL MOON FEVER 1989102 VAN HALEN 1984 1984103 SOUNDTRACK TITANIC 1997104 CROSBY STILLS & NASH DEJA VU 1970105 TLC CRAZYSEXYCOOL 1999106 BECK ODELAY 1994107 KENNY G BREATHLESS 1992108 NWA. STRAIGHT OUTTA COMPTON 1989109 SEX PISTOLS NEVER MIND THE BOLLOCKS 1977110 BEATLES RUBBER SOUL 1965111 RADIOHEAD O.K. COMPUTER 1997112 SIMON & GARFUNKEL BRIDGE OVER TROUBLE WATER 1970113 DIXIE CHICKS FLY 1999114 METALLICA AND JUSTICE FOR ALL 1988115 MICHAEL JACKSON DANGEROUS 1991116 MARIAH CAREY DAYDREAM 1995117 SOUNDTRACK TOP GUN 1999118 ELTON JOHN GOODBYE YELLOW BRICK ROAD 1973119 POLICE SYNCHRONICITY 1983120 NO DOUBT TRAGIC KINGDOM 1995121 ROLLING STONES BEGGAR'S BANQUET 1968122 R KELLY R 1998123 TOOL LATERALUS 2001124 OASIS WHAT'S THE STORY MORNING GLORY 1995125 BOB MARLEY EXODUS 1977126 JOURNEY ESCAPE 1981127 CHRISTINA AGUILERA CHRISTINA AGUILERA 1999128 JAY-Z BLUEPRINT 2001129 ALICIA KEYS DIARY OF ALICIA KEYS 2003130 SOUNDTRACK O BROTHER WHERE ART THOU? 2000131 CARS CARS 1978132 ENYA DAY WITHOUT RAIN 2000133 NATALIE COLE UNFORGETTABLE WITH LOVE NATALIE COLE 1991134 SOUNDTRACK FOOTLOOSE 1984135 LIONEL RICHIE CAN'T SLOW DOWN 1983136 SARAH MCLACHLAN SURFACING 1997137 BONNIE RAITT NICK OF TIME 1989138 METALLICA RIDE THE LIGHTNING 1984139 SHERYL CROW TUESDAY NIGHT MUSIC CLUB 1993140 FRANK SINATRA IN THE WEE SMALL HOURS 1954141 EARTH WIND FIRE GRATITUDE 1975142 ZZ TOP ELIMINATOR 1983143 WILLIE NELSON RED HEADED STRANGER 1975144 JOHN LENNON IMAGINE 1971145 TONI BRAXTON TONI BRAXTON 1993146 ETTA JAMES AT LAST 1961147 ELVIS PRESLEY ELVIS PRESLEY 1956148 CAT STEVENS TEA FOR THE TILLERMAN 1970149 SMASHING PUMPKINS MELLON COLLIE & THE INFINITE SADNESS 1995150 DAVE BRUBECK TIME OUT 1959151 JANET JACKSON JANET 1993152 QUEEN A NIGHT AT THE OPERA 1975153 OZZY OSBOURNE BLIZZARD OF OZZ 1980154 WILL SMITH BIG WILLIE STYLE 1997155 PRINCE SIGN OF THE TIMES 1987156 PUBLIC ENEMY IT TAKES A NATION OF MILLIONS TO HOLD US BACK 1988157 BOB DYLAN BLOOD ON THE TRACKS 1975158 GEORGE MICHAEL FAITH 1987159 BOYZ II MEN COOLEYHIGHHARMONY 1993160 DESTINY'S CHILD WRITING'S ON THE WALL 1999161 JAY-Z BLACK ALBUM 2003162 AVRIL LAVIGNE LET GO 2002163 FUGEES SCORE 1996164 MADONNA LIKE A VIRGIN 1984165 LED ZEPPELIN LED ZEPPELIN 1969166 STEVIE RAY VAUGHN TEXAS FLOOD 1983167 STONE TEMPLE PILOTS CORE 1992168 ORIGINAL CAST PHANTOM OF THE OPERA HIGHLIGHTS 1988169 JETHRO TULL AQUALUNG 1971170 TUPAC ME AGAINST THE WORLD 1995171 DAVID BOWIE RISE AND FALL OF ZIGGY STARDUST 1972172 SHAKIRA LAUNDRY SERVICE 2002173 SOUNDTRACK FORREST GUMP 2001174 AL GREEN CALL ME 1973175 CURTIS MAYFIELD SUPERFLY 1997176 LIVE THROWING COPPER 1994177 GEORGE BENSON BREEZIN' 1976178 WHITE STRIPES WHITE BLOOD CELLS 2001179 LYNYRD SKYNYRD PRONOUNCED LEH-NERD SKIN-ERD 1973180 SADE DIAMOND LIFE 1984181 FLEETWOOD MAC FLEETWOOD MAC 1975182 PAUL MCCARTNEY & WINGS BAND ON THE RUN 1973183 BEYONCE DANGEROUSLY IN LOVE 2003184 ANITA BAKER RAPTURE 1986185 NAS IIIMATIC 1994186 BARBARA STREISAND A STAR IS BORN 1976187 EARTH WIND FIRE THAT'S THE WAY OF THE WORLD 1975188 ANITA BAKER RHYTHM OF LOVE 1994189 JAY-Z IN MY LIFETIME VOL 1 1997190 LL COOL J MAMA SAID KNOCK YOU OUT 1990191 STEELY DAN AJA 1977192 WILLIE NELSON STARDUST 1978193 ARETHA FRANKLIN SPARKLE 1976194 ANDREA BOCELLI ANDREA 2004195 BOB DYLAN BRINGING IT ALL BACK HOME 1965196 LUTHER VANDROSS NEVER TOO MUCH 1981197 U2 ALL THAT YOU CAN'T LEAVE BEHIND 2000198 RUSH 2112 1976199 OUTKAST AQUEMINI 1998200 GRAND FUNK RAILROAD WE'RE AN AMERICAN BAND 1973 Edited March 7, 2007 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Evil_Mouse Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 Hey, no Zappa! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimoe Posted March 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 Unless my eyes are playing tricks on me, I don't think the Allmans made the list. Hmm, that makes tons of sense, especially when Skynyrd makes the list. The Allmans only created a genre, was one of the top grossing touring bands of the 70's and have five multi-platinum albums under their belts and are members of the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phishtaper Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 (edited) are these "influential" or just popular? (he asks rhetorically) some of these dont make any sense. whitney houston? titanic soundtrack? coldplay? yikes. where's the clash? the velvet underground? they dont even have a talking heads album on here. that said: i cannot complain about the top ten. Edited March 7, 2007 by Guest afterthought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimoe Posted March 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 where's the clash? the velvet underground? they dont even have a talking heads album on here. that said: i cannot complain about the top ten. #96 is The Clash's London Calling.I'm thinking Never Mind The Bollocks should be in the Top 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booche Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 Groundhog day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamilton Posted March 8, 2007 Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 It's also interesting that of all the possible Santana albums, they listed Supernatural in the top 20. Because, um, it sucked. And also, if you're talking about "influential" I think Abraxas would be more suitable to that slot, even if Supernatural was a bigger seller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcO Posted March 8, 2007 Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 I'd really like to know how many people on here, or people you know, have actually heard Carol King's "Tapestry".I have no opinion on her or this album but besides being a big seller, you never hear anyone talk about it. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamilton Posted March 8, 2007 Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 I've heard it, but not since I was about six or so. My mom used to have it on 8-track when I was a wee one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phishtaper Posted March 8, 2007 Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 tapestry was one of the first female singer-songwriter albums that was huge. it was really successful when released - grammy's, etc - and its one of the biggest selling albums of all time. i think its credited with opening doors for other women in a major way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Evil_Mouse Posted March 8, 2007 Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 I haven't heard Tapestry in decades, but I'm sure hearing it again would evoke all sorts of long-submerged memories.Agreed on the poorness of the Santana choice; I think there's something of the lustre of recent commercial dynamics that goes into this list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimoe Posted March 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 I'd really like to know how many people on here, or people you know, have actually heard Carol King's "Tapestry".I have no opinion on her or this album but besides being a big seller, you never hear anyone talk about it. Ever.Sometimes albums connect to one generation. I think Alanis' big album may find the same fate as Tapestry, and I think they are comparable. Both are women-empowered themed, but during different stages historically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phishtaper Posted March 8, 2007 Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 Sometimes albums connect to one generation. I think Alanis' big album may find the same fate as Tapestry, and I think they are comparable. Both are women-empowered themed, but during different stages historically.great comparison. the "influential" thing about Tapestry is that it was the first. and its also a great album - with hits like It's Too Late, I Feel the Earth Move (Under My Feet), You've Got a Friend and the song which was Aretha Frankin's anthem, (You Make Me Feel) Like a Natural Woman. check it out, if ya dont know it. along with Joni Mitchell's Blue. lists like this are always open to debate but the more i look at it, the more i sense there are a number of entries on it where they wanted to pay tribute to an influential artist, but they couldnt figure out which album to recognize, so they just picked their biggest seller or whatever - like SANTANA - SUPERNATURAL, PEARL JAM - TEN, DMB - CRASH, and WTF?? ELVIS PRESLEY - ELVIS AT SUN (2004??!!??). I'd suggest that DMB's debut, Under The Table and Dreaming was much more influential (legitimizing pop jam) and what's with Elvis's 'most influential' album being a retrospective collection released 50 years after their recordings? That's just stupid. And Dylan's Blood on the Tracks (#157) is less influential than Matchbox Twenty (#91)? Check out another list from 2006 for a different view of 50 albums that changed music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimoe Posted March 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 The list makes sense since it reflects sales and not influence and longevity. Certainly the first Clash album was just as influential as London Calling. Live At Leeds was a precursor to punk as was Kick Out The Jams and The Stooges' Fun House. But they barely scratched platinum in sales. Go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phishtaper Posted March 8, 2007 Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 ... Go figure. exactly ... but its fun to debate. personally, i think the single most influential album of all time is this ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Photogeek Posted March 8, 2007 Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 pfft Nimoy doesn't hold a candle to Shatner! Oh and Eminem out ranking Dr. Dre's "The Chronic" is a crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimoe Posted March 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 Oh and Eminem out ranking Dr. Dre's "The Chronic" is a crime.Although Eminem has him beat sale wise thanks to the crossover appeal - i.e., white audience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Photogeek Posted March 8, 2007 Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 Although Eminem has him beat sale wise thanks to the crossover appeal - i.e., white audience.Oh I agree with that for sure...I just think that The Chronic influenced a whole generation of rappers (including Eminem) with its "West Coast" sound...plus Dr. Dre produced the Marshell Mathers LP didn't he?And where the hell is "It Takes a Nation of Millions..."?BTW I am not disagreeing with you, or even the list (how can you really argue with opinion?), just having fun with the debate it brings up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimoe Posted March 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 It's hard to argue with sales even if there are far better albums out there... and there is.Public Enemy sold lots of albums but Boogie Down Productions in some ways were more groundbreaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chameleon Posted March 8, 2007 Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 How does Linkin Park and Matchbox 20 rank above Dave Brubeck's "Time Out".That's just ridiculous!How did Matchbox 20 and Linkin Park even make the list!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimoe Posted March 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 How does Linkin Park and Matchbox 20 rank above Dave Brubeck's "Time Out".That's just ridiculous!How did Matchbox 20 and Linkin Park even make the list!?!It's about sales. I doubt even the great Time Out out-sold those hack albums. Jazz doesn't sell well compared to pop, although I believe Head Hunters is still the best selling jazz album of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djmelbatoast Posted March 8, 2007 Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 I like the list phishtaper posted better. It's not as random and the guy actually justifies his picks.Although it was pretty ethnocentric, 3/4 of the albums were British. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamilton Posted March 9, 2007 Report Share Posted March 9, 2007 The list makes sense since it reflects sales and not influence and longevity. Certainly the first Clash album was just as influential as London Calling. Live At Leeds was a precursor to punk as was Kick Out The Jams and The Stooges' Fun House. But they barely scratched platinum in sales. Go figure. What you're saying makes perfect sense, but the article specifically says "Beatles' Sgt. Pepper's Tops List Of 200 Most Influential Albums"... so they should either change the title or change the criteria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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