MarcO Posted October 30, 2003 Report Share Posted October 30, 2003 The Grateful Dead @ Oakland Coliseum Arena - 10/31/91 Heavy stuff indeed... What a great late-period Dead show! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booche Posted October 30, 2003 Report Share Posted October 30, 2003 "How do you like your blue-eyed boy now, Mr Deeeath?" I love that show.............1-2-3, just like that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcO Posted October 30, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2003 Listened to the show in it's entirety last night.... shivers, I tell ya, full-on Halloween spook! The late great Ken Kesey with the late great Grateful Dead, the late great Jerry Garcia jamming for the late, great Bill Graham. Heav-eee! (Great "Scarlet > Fire" too!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rary8 Posted October 30, 2003 Report Share Posted October 30, 2003 That show is amazing! Jerry's technique is so advanced. He just flows around like spiderwebs made of water. Listen to Phil and Bob. They both are being pushed to play at levels that they don't with their own band. Bobby doesn't play like that now. No fault of his own but he is not forced to find those spaces in between the form. Jerry was the unconscious maestro. His muse served the music so perfectly. God, why the hell can't anyone else get into it like that. Alas, alas. Time to pick up my Ibanez again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booche Posted October 30, 2003 Report Share Posted October 30, 2003 Rary, you couldnt be more right........... I've been having a consciouness crisis this week, regarding the Grateful Dead's music, and the legacy now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcO Posted October 30, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2003 Andre.... tell me more..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booche Posted October 31, 2003 Report Share Posted October 31, 2003 I dont think this is the time or place. I dont like to fuel fires, and I dont like to necessarily put them out. Basically, MANY songs should be shelved, or sung by people that werent in the Grateful Dead. I cant handle the way BW sings Jerry tunes, using those strange inflections for the simplest deliveries, which takes away from the integrity of the song. Phil on the other hand, keeps the integrity, but we all know about his vocal limitations. It is ruining beautiful songs for me. And please, dont bring up any issue about "change" cause that would be the biggest pile of shit I have ever read. (Not directed at you MarcO, thats for anybody and everybody) Anywho, that's a start right there. I could babble and babble about this, but I choose not to. Come on over for a few beers MarcO, and we can further discuss this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcO Posted October 31, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2003 Drinkin' beer and talkin' 'bout the Grateful Dead..... I love you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esau Posted October 31, 2003 Report Share Posted October 31, 2003 quote:.....Buffalo Bill's defunct who used to ride a watersmooth-silver stallion and break one,two,three,four,five pigeons,just like that Jesus he was a handsome man and what i want to know is how do you like your blueeyed boy Mister Death -- E. E. Cummings Amazing....the Dark Star should be listened at full volume without question!! Chills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon. Posted October 31, 2003 Report Share Posted October 31, 2003 Booche - i totally agree about the shelving of certain tunes...I mean live and let live but...no one else should ever sing stella blue, or terrapin to name a couple. I realize this is only one mans opinion, however, just listen to the music and let your ears and heart decide...it's no body's fault that they were not around to catch Jerry play, but that magic will not be captured through "the dead"(modern-day),or anywhere else....I totally think bobby should still play the tunes that he grew with over the last 35+ years...just show some discresion.. ah whatever, i'm sure people will not agree with this one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon. Posted October 31, 2003 Report Share Posted October 31, 2003 BTW - can someone burn this show for me...have a look at my list(below link), and let me know what you want in return...c'mon...who gonna help this sorry deadhead out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booche Posted October 31, 2003 Report Share Posted October 31, 2003 I can. Email me darkstarotherone@hotmail.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esau Posted October 31, 2003 Report Share Posted October 31, 2003 If ya just want to hear Kesey I found a link that gives that.(But why not listen tot he whole show instead.....?) http://www.proudmonkey.com/KeseyDarkstar.mp3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon. Posted October 31, 2003 Report Share Posted October 31, 2003 thanks booche - you got mail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamilton Posted October 31, 2003 Report Share Posted October 31, 2003 quote: Originally posted by Booche: I've been having a consciouness crisis this week... I had a "consciousness crisis" this week too, but it involved being unconscious from an over-abundance of alcohol in my system... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyRage Posted October 31, 2003 Report Share Posted October 31, 2003 quote: Originally posted by MarcO: the late, great Bill Graham. Excuse me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyRage Posted October 31, 2003 Report Share Posted October 31, 2003 quote: Originally posted by MarcO: the late, great Bill Graham. Excuse me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esau Posted October 31, 2003 Report Share Posted October 31, 2003 quote: Originally posted by tonyrage: quote: Originally posted by MarcO: the late, great Bill Graham. Excuse me? What you don't think he was a great guy?The man who gave his first show at the Filmore West in '65,opening the door for so many great bands including Big Brother and the Holding Co., Jefferson Airplane, Cream, Moby Grape, the Grateful Dead, Jimi Hendrix, the Byrds, Buffalo Springfield, Steve Miller, Country Joe, Quicksilver Messenger Service, Santana, Butterfield Blues Band, Otis Redding, Howlin’ Wolf, Captain Beefheart, Muddy Waters, The Who... the list goes on and on.The owner of the Winterland & host of the Last Waltz,amongst so many other amazing shows. Come on. Wolfgang "Bill Graham" Grajonza 01.08.1931 - 10.25.1991 Bill Graham at his new Winterland Ballroom 1967 I Thank Bill for his contribution to music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon. Posted October 31, 2003 Report Share Posted October 31, 2003 here, here Greg!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kung Posted October 31, 2003 Report Share Posted October 31, 2003 A few different things being said here. That E.E. Cummings poem is brilliant and I can't think of a better delivery. I love how the band does one of those downward shifts into the 'Bill' pocket to act as a bed right before Kesey starts reciting it. Also the whole 'they're 'll always be more dumb people then smart people. We're not many' kills me. The part that gives me the chills is the poem and particularly how heated he gets over the remark about how the Dead are the only ones who reach across the distance and that Brokedown Palace they played at that show I knew. It captures the whole thing in a nutshell for me. I've been having a consciousness crisis about this 'scene' for longer than the past week but that Kesey moment captures everything I love about this band and movement. On a total aside has anyone heard the fact that Bill Graham had vied to manage the Stones when they came out of retirement and Michael Cohl (who essentially offered them something like an 80 million dollar signing bonus) snagged it. Bill apparently had a nervous breakdown over this specifically and was never the same, dying not long after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcO Posted October 31, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2003 "It's as big a time as it gets and ol' Bill knew it, he knew it!....." ( ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcO Posted October 31, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2003 culled this off the net: "Barring any breaking news stories, Charlie Rose's piece on the Dead will air on Wednesday November 12th on CBS from 8-9 PM EST. There will be some bits from their impromptu acoustic gig at 710 Ashbury and Phil and Billy talk very candidly about Jerry's death. Some old stuff for the American viewing public and some new stuff for all the heads out there. -Michael 60 Minutes II" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booche Posted November 1, 2003 Report Share Posted November 1, 2003 "that Kesey moment captures everything I love about this band and movement." I am so listening to this show tonight. Thanks Kung, I had forgotten about the rap before the poem. I just got chills thinking about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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