The Chameleon

[color:magenta]Hey, Mama Pink, please please, post a setlist fromthis show. I need to know as I can't make it. So please fill me in and have a wikkid show!

Muchos Gracias Senorita.

Shain, the Chameleon Project sends you our deppest regards and we wish you strength and courage in you time of loss. May your sister rest in peace.

And thank you for all you positive input into the scene.

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

I had no idea this was happening in Oakville!

DO NOT MISS THIS.

I've seen Grant Green JR. in NYC. Outtasight!

Everyone in Jamaica eats this...and yes it's extra spicy..of course.

Whaaaa! Are you saying you can go to the Feat for $20 without buying the full weekedn pass?!

Crazy deal!

Is this news?! Seriously, seems like this is really stating the obvious.

This just in: ALchahol makes you drunk for hours at a time.

Shame! Madcaplaughs and Opel are amazing records...

RIP

Hey Y'all,

In case you don't know this weekend is the London, ON bluesfest. It spans Fri-Sun. The whole weekend pass is a very resonable $43.oo!

Friday night Little Feat headline, then on Sunday English guitar legend Robin Trower closes the festival. WOW!

I'm, going for sure....

London blues fest web-site

Nice a solo Gnarls Barkley show.....hmmm....I may have to rethink the Virgin music festival depending on how the line up is divided each day.

True the salary cap does put a wrench in things. I still would have kept Charlie V. I think he has much potential.

For the record we had a real point guard until Sam Mitchell assasinated his good will.

RAFER "FUCKING" ALSTON. Could have been so right.

Happy B-Day for sure, but what does the word "circum" imply inthe title of this thread?

I someone getting circumcised? Egads! Hope not a little late for that one.

GOLD!

toronto hipsters are the worst crowd in the world bar none.

I agree totally. Toronto crowds are very different from most US or European audiences, or East coast Canada crowds. Toronto crowds want you to win them over and prove it to them. Whereas other crowds are with you from the get go and ready to party, then if you play a good song or show they are even more with you.,

Toronto crowds are not with you until you play at least 3-4 consitent high level songs or jams that blow them away. Once they are with you they are very loud and some of the best audiences I've been a party to. But not until you break the ice (much like the women in Toronto...oh I'm gonna get it now..but it's true.)

Bottom line: Toronto crowds do not give talent the benifit of the doubt, they are very critical as they see top level talent all the time. It takes much to impress them. I know 'cause it takes a lot to impress me and I live in Toronto and feel this way to some degree.

WOW! a big thank you to What the Thndr Said w/Kae Sun and everyone who came out and gave it thier all.

Excellent crowd at the Jazz on Saturday that stuck with us through all the musical adventures.

The jam was insane, I think we very well may have played the longest version of Cissy Stut ever!

We'll be back in Guelph on Sept 23rd so rest up!

I'm going to stop in Guelph for the first time in my life today. Just thought I would share. What should I look for?

When you are coming info the 401 as you approach Guelph downtown, you will drive by the Univeristy.

On the main street in Guelph (Wellington) there is cool rcord store callerd Bassline records upstairs that sels electroni music, and below is a neat clothing shop.

There are many cool litte cafes, and hippie shops and lots of hot hippie chicks to go along with that. Much more laid back than Toronot, people are actuallky "nice" without knowing you are real shocker!

See you there SS.

P.S. There is a nice big park down by Speed river which you will drive over, on the way in.

Bottom line is I beleive that we could have gotten TJ Ford and kept Charlie V.

I don't think Ford is worth Charile V, seriously. I also don't think that Italian is as talented as Villaeuva. So answer me this, if there was no real standout in this draft and we needed a point guard, why the fuck would you not trade your pick for a proven point guard, as oppose to giving up a promising up and comer (Charlie V) and aquiring a point guard that still has much to prove after a serious accident.

No logic in this at all, seems like a typical Raptor gaff.

I hope this season works out. the Raptors seem to make huge personel errors every year.

And for the record SS I think if the Raptors had kept thier line up of:

2000-2001

Vince Carter

Tracy McGrady

Kevin.Willis

Alvin Williams (when he wasn't damaged)

Mark Jackson (when he could still play)

Keon Clark

Jerome Williams

Del Curry

Corliss Williamson

Charles Oakley

Antonio Davis

Mugsy Bogues

We'd be looking at a team that would have perhaps won a championship or at very least made a serious run for a few years.

But noo, Raptors inept management pissed it away with bad trades, that we have still not recovered from totally.

They have much to prove.

Me too. I have these shows on disc they're great. really well palyed.

Remindes me of when I was excited about something Phish related...

...Ahh the good old days...

What a kick int he balls. First the Senator and now the Bistro.

We now have no premier venues for top notch Jazz talent.

The Rex is OK, but it will never host major jazz stars.

The jazz community in Toronto is really in trouble.

Someone needs to step up with fresh ideas, a fresh venue and a more inclusive vision of what jazz is in this town.

Lame.

You mean Rush Limbaugh has a penis? Even scarier there is a woman (or man) out there that would let him use it on them. Ewwwwwww!

If I wasn't goin to Phil at Darien I would be all over this..oh well have fun all!

I know Phil is the same day as my show! Ahhhhh!

If I wasn't playing you can beleive I'd be at Darien, shakin' my groove thang!

Have a good time in the land of Bush y'all.

... In the sea of inexperienced art rock that goes on today ...

Just curious to what you mean by that sentence...

In Guelph there are many acts that are celebrated for there unique nature' date=' but possess no real expertise on their instruments. I am faced with this often.

I feel it is often that Oysterhead is celebrated for their unique nature, but they actually show some competancy when it comes to making their tunes.

On a larger scale we can look to Modest Mouse or Pavement or even Arcade Fire for that matter as an example of celebrated acts without real musical proficiency I suppose. Though I do enjoy their song writing their tones are pretty hard to deal with and it seems that fans of the afformentioned acts get pissed when the tones are rounded out as Oysterhead's are. So I commend Oysterhead for their rounding of tones and communication whilst playing.

It's a little apples and orangey though and I'm not saying one's better or worse I'm just saying I like the Oysterhead roll and Trey's involvement in it.

Cheers

Deeps

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This post reminds how much I hate musical proficiency as a concept. How can one be proficient when the whole idea is completely subjective? One person deemed musical numbskull by one person could be deemed "extremely competent" by another.

In another scenario, would a proficient writer be someone like Ken Follet who turns out best-selling spy novels twice a year, or a straight-A Columbia grad who publishes a hoity-toity academic paper on the significance of parentheses in her spare time and works at In N' Out Burger from 9-5 for 20 years?

"Proficient" Actors end up cranking out shakespearean productions at stratford...the shitty actors with big tits end up with multi-million dollar movie deals.

Being musically profecient or competent is not in any way related to being comemrically successful. They are two entirely seperate things.

When they coaless the audience is the real winner.

... In the sea of inexperienced art rock that goes on today ...

Just curious to what you mean by that sentence...

In Guelph there are many acts that are celebrated for there unique nature' date=' but possess no real expertise on their instruments. I am faced with this often.

I feel it is often that Oysterhead is celebrated for their unique nature, but they actually show some competancy when it comes to making their tunes.

On a larger scale we can look to Modest Mouse or Pavement or even Arcade Fire for that matter as an example of celebrated acts without real musical proficiency I suppose. Though I do enjoy their song writing their tones are pretty hard to deal with and it seems that fans of the afformentioned acts get pissed when the tones are rounded out as Oysterhead's are. So I commend Oysterhead for their rounding of tones and communication whilst playing.

It's a little apples and orangey though and I'm not saying one's better or worse I'm just saying I like the Oysterhead roll and Trey's involvement in it.

Cheers

Deeps

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Here, here I could not agree more.

One of my favorite hockey players too. Classy, pro, no ones bitch and one of the greats.

Hall of fame bound for sure!

Look SS if Ford works out great, Then no prob.

But I have a sneaking suspicion that this big Italian will be a Arujo part 2, bench warmer and Ford will end up not meshing or management will piss him off ala Rafer Alston and well be missing the proven talent of Charlie V.

As for McGrady i don't care what he has or hasn't done in Houston, it's about what he could have dome for us.

Ford better work out or I'm calling up the JYD and me and Jerome are gonna bitch slap Coangelo.

I can't handle another year of rebulding to nothing.

Canadian Press

Published: Friday, June 30, 2006

TORONTO -- The Toronto Raptors finally filled their gap at point guard, but it came at a high price.

The Raptors sent forward Charlie Villanueva to the Milwaukee Bucks on Friday for point guard T.J. Ford and an undisclosed amount of cash.

Villanueva was coming off an excellent rookie season for the Raptors. He averaged 13.0 points and 6.4 rebounds in 81 games, including 36 starts, and was named to the NBA all-rookie first team.

He set club rookie records for points with 48 and rebounds with 18.

The Raptors were widely mocked for taking Villanueva seventh overall in the 2005 draft, but his solid rookie campaign made him an attractive player to other teams. With the Raptors deep up front after drafting Andrea Bargnani with the first overall pick Thursday, trading Villanueva to fill the gaping hole at point guard seemed like a sensible move for Raptors general manager Bryan Colangelo.

"Charlie proved to be one of our more marketable players," said Colangelo. "Obviously there was some disappointment in his voice (when told of the trade), but he understood where things are with this team and where we're trying to go."

In Ford, the Raptors get a quick playmaking guard who had a solid season with the Bucks. Ford averaged 12.2 points, a team-best 6.6 assists and 35.5 minutes last season. He rebounded from a spinal-cord injury that sidelined him for a season and a half.

Ford was the eighth overall pick in the 2003 draft.

"We really like what we've seen from T.J. in the past year," said Colangelo. "He's a lightning quick guard, he's got great playmaking ability and we feel he is the perfect fit for the type of team that we would like to become."

Colangelo said he has not had a chance to talk to Ford, but Bucks GM Larry Harris said the guard was favourable about coming to Toronto.

Colangelo also said that the Raptors looked into Ford's past medical problems before making the deal.

"Obviously you do your due diligence, and suffice it to say we were comfortable moving forward on the basis of the information that we had," said Colangelo.

Harris hopes Villanueva will fill the team's need for a power forward to complement seven-foot centre Andrew Bogut, the top pick in the 2005 draft.

"Acquiring Charlie takes care of a primary need we had going into the summer," Harris said. "He's a gifted power forward who knows how to score both inside and outside. ... The outstanding rookie season he had last year is only the beginning of what he's capable of achieving."

The Bucks, with a revamped roster and Ford as floor leader, reached the playoffs with a 40-42 record last season. It was a 10-game improvement from the previous season when they didn't make the playoffs.

In the playoffs, they lost 4-1 to Detroit in the first round.

"He was an inspiration to all of us when he found the will and strength to fight back from the neck injury he suffered during his rookie season," Harris said. "We wish him much success in Toronto."

[color:red]BADBADBAD move! So here we go again same old same old in Raptor land. Trade away your sure thing on a point that probably won't work. Egnough already make due and let the point guard thing go.!

I mean seriously, I think we could have traded our draft pick, got Ford for it and kept Villanueva too. And probably still gotten the pick we got.

We will feel this burn huge in years to come. Remember Tracy McGrady?!

Man I though Coangelo knew what he was doing! Damn!