Deeps Posted July 27, 2005 Report Share Posted July 27, 2005 Just picked up Jaco Pastorius Big Band (word of mouth revisited). WOW!This album features re-recorded songs originally by Jaco. The album features an unfair amount of great bass players.Victor Bailey, Christian McBride, Marcus Miller, David Pastorius and Victor Wooten to name a few!For the unitiated Jaco Pastorius f'n rules one of if not the first players to rip the frets out of his bass fill them wood filler and change bass playing forever, his phrasing and sheer balls with which he played influenced, inspired, and guided countless bass players during and after his time.He died early and under often confused circumstances. Turns out he was likely bi-polar and his mysterious behaviour evetually lead to his death. Very Brief Biography He can be heard as playing bass for Weather ReportJoni Mitchell (Mingus album)His own independant releases.I'm listening to the genius of this playing and seriously moved by the composition and new levels he brought the instrument to which I am dedicated. Thanks Jaco.Dig this action kids!!!It's important stuff and you likely will hear hints of all your favourite bass players in what he's doing.Deeps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secondtube Posted July 27, 2005 Report Share Posted July 27, 2005 jaco is something else...so amazing, so unique...i'm gonna try and find that album... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paan Posted July 27, 2005 Report Share Posted July 27, 2005 I gotta checkout that album.... really good player... never been too crazy about Weather Report's music, but his fuzzy wahish playing really stands out. I have some of his solo stuff, and with Pat Metheney that is really good too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peipunk Posted July 27, 2005 Report Share Posted July 27, 2005 Weather Reports "8:30" live album is one of my favourites of all time... Black Market is definitely my favourite bass track. Jaco's biography by Milkowski is an amazing and tragic read..... I highly recommend it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secondtube Posted July 27, 2005 Report Share Posted July 27, 2005 "Weather Reports "8:30" live album is one of my favourites of all time... "absolutely mind blowing album! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeps Posted July 27, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2005 My favourite Jaco track these days is Dry Cleaner from Des Moines on Joni Mitchell's Mingus album.Ridiculous playing and horn parts.I've got a live in New York album that kicks hard...great version of the Meters "Cissy Strut".Love that action.Deeps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamH Posted July 27, 2005 Report Share Posted July 27, 2005 never been too crazy about Weather Report's musicSacrilege! You just haven't heard the right albums. Jaco is on a couple of other Joni live albums, including Shadows and Light and possibly Miles of Aisles along with Tom Scott and the LA Express. He was a gifted artist to be damn sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhishyK Posted July 27, 2005 Report Share Posted July 27, 2005 I still believe that Jaco is the best bassist of all time... and yes, I have seen Vic live. It's the innovation that really mattered. Jaco broke down barriers and made people think about the bass for the first time in history. And he had those crazy Jaco thumbs (which I also have - let me tell you - it really helps for bass playing!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeps Posted July 27, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2005 (edited) Does anyone know if he had a 3 finger technique?Do any of you?I get it going once in a while, but by no means utilize it as much as some players.Deeps Edited July 27, 2005 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhishyK Posted July 28, 2005 Report Share Posted July 28, 2005 I'm 99.9% sure he was 2 fingers all the way, index and middle. Just like Vic.The very VERY best bass players always seem to use 2 fingers and 4 strings, kinda neat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calamity Jane Posted July 28, 2005 Report Share Posted July 28, 2005 that is seriously more wahcked and scary than Lazlo's avatar (I've turned them back on, btw, I think it's called "operant conditioning" where I'm doing my best not to run sreaming into the streets everytime I look at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhishyK Posted July 28, 2005 Report Share Posted July 28, 2005 My thumbs actually go farther back than that - you can basically squish them backwards in a vice grip and it doesn't hurt me! Like I said, very handy for bass playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gr8FuL Posted July 28, 2005 Report Share Posted July 28, 2005 Shit....i thought this was directions to some amazing BassFishin Sweet Spot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timouse Posted July 28, 2005 Report Share Posted July 28, 2005 there's a fine line between genius and insanity, and Jaco spent his recording career on the genius side before slipping over the edge, possibly grossed out by the sight of his own thumbs i read a biography of him that claimed that he basically turned his back on his musician friends and became, well, a bit unhinged.... another great one bites the dust, i guess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhishyK Posted July 28, 2005 Report Share Posted July 28, 2005 Let's face it, true genuises are always tortured, and very often die young... Jaco OD'd Hendrix OD'd Janis OD'd Bach went deaf Trey - that's just obvious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secondtube Posted July 28, 2005 Report Share Posted July 28, 2005 Jaco didn't OD, he was kicked in the head, and killed........wasn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhishyK Posted July 28, 2005 Report Share Posted July 28, 2005 Well, yeah, technically you're right. But at that point he'd let his life totally disintegrate... drugs, booze, insanity, etc. Good call though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secondtube Posted July 28, 2005 Report Share Posted July 28, 2005 crazy thing...i went back to Finland where i'm from about a decade ago...i found they worship Jari Kurri, but I dont seem to remember much recognition of Jaco...which is too bad...although maybe i didn't see the right places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhishyK Posted July 28, 2005 Report Share Posted July 28, 2005 hahaha, did anyone say anything about Esa Tikkanen? *grin* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeps Posted July 28, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2005 Not catching the Jaco/Finland connection?Esa .... nice JOFA buddy..... looking good.Deeps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secondtube Posted July 28, 2005 Report Share Posted July 28, 2005 if i'm not mistaken, Jaco is from Finland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secondtube Posted July 28, 2005 Report Share Posted July 28, 2005 (edited) ok...i'm mistaken...he was born in Pennsylvania.i dont know where i would have gotten the impression he was from Finland...hmmm....which probably explains the lack of media about him in Finland...(man, i'm an idiot sometimes...lol) Edited July 28, 2005 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeps Posted July 28, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2005 Born Pennsylvania grew up in Miami....never heard of a Finish thing.Maybe cultural background?I'm finnished wahhh wooooww.Deeps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secondtube Posted July 28, 2005 Report Share Posted July 28, 2005 deeps...i'm blaming it on the crack abuse, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeps Posted July 28, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2005 HA. Anyone going to Victor? Deeps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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