d_rawk Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 I'm not sure what that means ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
payce-ley Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 gotta fight for the right to par-tay! not really sure either in other words dug your answer there d-rawk... always liked Jesus... got out of religion over hypocrits in my religious circle but still have respect for good religious folks... have met some amazing people who have faith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_rawk Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 Yeah, you'd never catch me in a church, that's for damn sure. Even the quakers, who I've always been so quick to defend, have caused me some distress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
payce-ley Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 always think its a shame the religious right slander a good set of principlesnot for me anymore but I still respect what I learnedtheology students used to follow the Deadhead crowd around saying they resembled "Christian cults" of the middle ages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Evil_Mouse Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 I figure tilting myself decisively away from the evangelical side of xtianity was one of the better acts of unselling-out that I've gotten myself through thus far in life. But it's true, what has been said above - there are people of faith out there, who base their faith more on inescapable mystery than authoritarian reflex, who are really remarkable people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calamity Jane Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 I don't think you've sold out. Mellowed out, maybe, but not sold out. To sell out is to go against (or set aside) your stated ideals solely for personal (typically monetary) gain.Are you happy? Are you healthy? Do the things in your life give you what you want and need, and do you give back the things that those around you need? If you can answer "yes" to those questions, without being a hypocrite in thought or deed, then you haven't sold out. If you think you've sold out because you said in the past that you always wanted to be a bandito and ride the snake, but aren't living that life now, well, that's not selling out, it's just the result of youthful idealism (and rebellion) not being able to clearly see the future that you've ended up living. (This is part of what's referred to as "growing up.") If you've made each individual decision in your life (whom to marry, where to life, occupation, etc.) for the right reasons, then you haven't sold out. Aloha, Brad Brad...that was beautifully and succinctly written! Indeed....we may aquire more STUFF as we grow old "and get with the program" and we may begin to feel that we can't simply live the life of impulse we did in our youth...but that's not entirely true. It may be more difficult and painful to "pull up stakes" and do something radically different, but it's never impossible. "Everybody's working for the weekend" ~ Loverboy Growing old is mandatory; growing up is optional. ~Chili Davis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneMtn Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 Adults suck, then you are one. ~ Bart Simpson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 When I'm lyin' in my bed at nightI don't wanna grow upNothin' ever seems to turn out rightI don't wanna grow upHow do you move in a world of fogThat's always changing thingsMakes me wish that I could be a dogWhen I see the price that you payI don't wanna grow upI don't ever wanna be that wayI don't wanna grow upSeems like folks turn into thingsThat they'd never wantThe only thing to live forIs today...I'm gonna put a hole in my TV setI don't wanna grow upOpen up the medicine chestAnd I don't wanna grow upI don't wanna have to shout it outI don't want my hair to fall outI don't wanna be filled with doubtI don't wanna be a good boy scoutI don't wanna have to learn to countI don't wanna have the biggest amountI don't wanna grow upWell when I see my parents fightI don't wanna grow upThey all go out and drinking all nightAnd I don't wanna grow upI'd rather stay here in my roomNothin' out there but sad and gloomI don't wanna live in a big old TombOn Grand StreetWhen I see the 5 o'clock newsI don't wanna grow upComb their hair and shine their shoesI don't wanna grow upStay around in my old hometownI don't wanna put no money downI don't wanna get me a big old loanWork them fingers to the boneI don't wanna float a broomFall in love and get married then boomHow the hell did I get here so soonI don't wanna grow up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal Johnson Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 I remember when I was a kid I asked my mom if when you turned 100 you started going back down. The answer, to this day, shocks and appals me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Evil_Mouse Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 Well, you do kinda shrink a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velvet Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 When I first started playing guitar I dreamt of playing gigs, lots and lots of gigs. I dreamt of playing the high school dance, I dreamt of playing on jingles, I dreamt of playing in coffee shops and airports and foodcourts. I especially dreamt of playing classic rock songs in bars. I even thought if I got good enough that maybe even teaching would be an option. So I guess one could say I've wanted to sell out ever since I started playing, and since I've stayed true to my hopes and aspirations I've managed to not sell out by totally selling out.I think.Really, I don't think I've ever thought about it before.* Good question Mr. King.*Aside from my mantra that self-indulgent playing must be the opposite of whatever selling out is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velvet Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 Did you know that "dreamt" is the only word in the English language that ends with the letters "mt"?Well, now you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneMtn Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 Did you know that "Mtn" is the only word to begin with those same letters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottieking Posted February 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 Upon further review and soul searching, and thanks to the discussions and views put forward here, I am feeling better today. Certainly I don't feel like sold out is the proper term anymore (although, quite frankly, I was just trying to use the strongest term to gain the best reactions)Upon further evaluation I believe that I have bought in more than I have sold out. Upon even further evaluation I realize that despite the fact that I am not naked bungy jumping in Nanaimo on a hit of microdot, I am lucky and have been lucky in gaining (and earning) both the success that I have and the experiences that I have gained. The man with the magic hat it would seem still wanders somewhere. I am not he, but he is me. (this is also the chorus to a song that this crisis helped me write last night) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 It seems like you've been thinking a lot Scottie!Just remember you've had such a large plate to deal with in the past few years.Surviving cancer, developing a beautiful relationship, teaching, running a business in the summer, (missing your sister - wink, wink),saving for the house, buying a house, dealing with the problems of a new house....moving in with lady...... WOW! Of course it's time to step back and say...HOLY FACK...can I be a kid again?Sending you a great big hug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 The man with the magic hat it would seem still wanders somewhere. I am not he, but he is me. (this is also the chorus to a song that this crisis helped me write last night)The man with the magic hat makes me think of Dr. Wu.Dr. Wu by Steely DanKaty triedI was halfway crucifiedI was on the other sideOf no tomorrowYou walked inAnd my life began againJust when I'd spent the last piasterI could borrowAll night longWe would sing that stupid songAnd every word we sangI knew was trueAre you with me Doctor WuAre you really just a shadowOf the man that I once knewAre you crazy are you highOr just an ordinary guyHave you done all you can doAre you with me DoctorDon't seem rightI've been strung out here all nightI've been waiting for the tasteYou said you'd bring to meBiscayne BayWhere the Cuban gentlemen sleep all dayI went searching for the songYou used to sing to meKaty liesYou could see it in her eyesBut imagine my surpriseWhen I saw youAre you with me Doctor WuAre you really just a shadowOf the man that I once knewShe is lovely yes she's slyAnd you're an ordinary guyHas she finally got to youCan you hear me Doctor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calamity Jane Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 glad you're feeling better Scottieking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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