Tungsten Gruvsten Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 Ok, I remember talking to Ms. Hux about this on Canada Day, just remembered today to put the link up...bit of video humour for a monday...Fat cock? Oil?http://www.ebaumsworld.com/sexharassmentvideo.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basher Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 Most alarming part of this post? Tungsten Gruvsten remembers anything about Canada Day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chameleon Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 GOLD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tungsten Gruvsten Posted July 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 Hey Basher, up till today it was just a vague conversation about vaginas.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afro poppa Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basher Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 I KNEW it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Low Roller Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 I got into an argument with an ethics coach that came to my old workplace once about an example she gave of sexual harrasment. It was great seeing her reaction, because clearly nobody ever dared challenge her definitions of sexual harrasment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradm Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 What was the example/defition?Aloha,Brad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Low Roller Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 She told the story of some guy that was in charge of the supplies at some office building who asked girls to kiss him on the cheek before he gave them any supplies. Normally I would agree that this was a case of sexual harrasment, however the catch is that whenever the girl refused he would respect that and not ask her again.Sexual harrasment: Yes or No? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afro poppa Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradm Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 (edited) Hmmm...I see your point. I'd call it inappropriate office behaviour, as to me, for it to be harrassment, it has to be personally directed, repeated, and probably involve a power relationship (none of which apply in your example). (I think there are behaviours which some offices may want to ban, which aren't necessarily harrassing.)If I were the manager of that supply guy, I'd give him a strong dressing down the first time that behaviour was noticed. If he repeated it, I'd make a note in personnel file, and if he still kept it up, I'd take even stronger measures.Aloha,Brad Edited July 10, 2006 by Guest Add "er" to "strong". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AD Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 If I were the manager of that supply guy, I'd give him a strong dressing down the first time that behaviour was noticed. If he repeated it, I'd make a note in personnel file, and if he still kept it up, I'd take even strong measures.Such as even hotter oil?AD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionLocks Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 Thats not harassment yo! I wish i was in charge... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms.Huxtable Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 Thanks for remembering to post that TG! I'll have to reference it at our next staff meeting. Low Roller, I would sy that situation IS sexual harassment, it's an inappropriate comment in the work environment. I see a lot stuff like that at work and I wouldn't say or do anything. My comfort level might be different than another woman's. I have a guy at work in another department that calls two of his subordinate women co-workers "Sugar and Spice". This is totally inappropriate, but they don't mind or at least, don't say anything. Another person in my department calls every girl he sees "pretty girl". It doesn't bother me, but if it makes any of my employees feel uncomfortable, you're damn right I'd take action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c-towns Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 I'm sending this to my upper management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_rawk Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 Sexual harrasment: Yes or No?Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Low Roller Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 I would say the behaviour is definitely inappropriate, but does it warrant a sexual harassment suit, ruining the guy's career? I agree with Bradm that the guy should have been pulled aside by his manager first.To be perfectly honest I don't remember every single detail right now, so I can't argue the case too well, but I remember not agreeing with the situation when I first heard it.P.S. Everyone I work with in England would be arrested if they ever tried working in Canada. Sexual inuendo is just a way of life in my office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenenbaum Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 "I'll never stop!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_rawk Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 P.S. Everyone I work with in England would be arrested if they ever tried working in Canada. Sexual inuendo is just a way of life in my office.If my Memories of Wales (TM President's Choice: a flavourful lamb sauce, with but a hint of mint and blackcurrant) are indicative in any way of the behaviour of their English neighbours, I don't doubt for a second that you are right.I would say the behaviour is definitely inappropriate, but does it warrant a sexual harassment suit, ruining the guy's career?I agree with Bradm that the guy should have been pulled aside by his manager.Honestly, I would have some sympathy for him getting canned. But I would still think that he should be canned.In a managerial capacity (and my management experience has been relegated to computer tech and porn stores, of all things, so that may have jaded me), I would give the bloke an unambigious written warning - calling him into my office to discuss and to make damn sure that he understood the severity of the written warning - and on a second offense he would be terminated (which, come to think of it, is an awful and violent sounding term. Let's say fired instead.)Whether it warrants a lawsuit, or warrants termination, is up to the law of the land and the specific place of employment. But whether it is sexual harrasment, aside from those other issues, I just can't imagine how it can be seen as anything but. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Low Roller Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 Well no doubt the Company needed to take strong action because they need to protect their own interests (i.e. avoiding a CORPORATE sexual harassment suit).The stuff I hear around here is unsane. Some examples: "Are you on your period because your boobs look bigger?"Female employee bends over. Male employee "I recognize that view!"and my favorite: "ROWR!!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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