Tungsten Gruvsten Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 http://www.archive.org/details/FatCats2006-01-28..shnfExactly 1 year later! Sheesh. Anyways, I think I got the hang of the archive thing so it's all there, streaming, mp3, shn etc...Mark Tonin will have copies available at Groundhog Fest as well....Enjoy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark tonin Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 Awesome Eric ... thanks! I'll definitely be making copies to pass around this upcoming weekend to people.As I mentioned in a previous thread, this recording rocks in a big way and the sound quality is fabulous, especially after the first track when all of the levels are tweaked.Tungsten Gruvsten works his magic again ...Peace, Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark tonin Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 I'm not usually one to read through the technical notes that go along with a live recording, but Tungsten's usually include some fun reading along with the usual technical geek talk! Technical Notes for this show: Source: 16 channel Split recording > Alesis HD24 Lineage: 16 Channel Multitrack> Alesis HD24>optical in RME Digiface>Vegas 4.0 Mixdown via 4 Stereo Stems through Neve/Filtek/Siemens EQ's and Bass through DBX 160VU Taped by: Eric Warren Transfered by: Eric Warren Now this was an experiment... I arranged the donation of the Sound System from my work for this show...it quickly got a little excessive (4000watt QSC/JBL VRX rig if you wanna know) and set-up took much longer than anticipated. The recording rig was a 16 track split using custom mic preamps and an Alesis HD24 Hard Disc recorder. All the tracks were recorded at 24bit/44.1kHz, from the mics to the pre-amps, straight into the recorder. Bass was Avalon U5 DI. No Compressors/Limiters or EQs on the way in. The mics were typical stage mics, mostly Sennheiser. The pre-amps, which are somewhat of a passion/hobby of mine, are a portable setup that I helped build with another fellow, and consist of kick-ass Neve, API, Siemens and Langevin preamps from the 60's and 70's that have been restored and racked with all the bells and whistles... So after flailing my way through the opening band with mis-patched mics and dead channels I was all ready to go for the 'Cats...but the $%^ HD24 recorder kept screwing up and kicking out of record mode. It wasn't 'till near the end of the night that I finally caught the message, the root cause was the Hard drive that was too big for the machine and couldn't write data fast enough after the file size got large (ATTN: HD24 users - no 200GB drives!!) ...so unfortunately 5 songs were left with serious time slices and dropouts, the worst, a kickin' 'Shakedown Street' had 3 cuts in it at the worst places...very unsalvageable... As I struggled with not drop-kicking a piece of technology an amazing concert continued....and I was determined to capture as much as possible. A total of 4 tracks were lost, and 'Speedballs' fades out as it's drop-out was closer to the end, although you can hear it was really just starting to rip when the fade starts... The outcome - the final collection of songs was around 90 minutes with crowd noise and thank yous and intros and drink calls and tuning, etc...great timing for a cassette, not so much for CD...so I started whittling out the crowd noise and tuning first...got it down to 84 minutes, then the extended ending thanks went and it was 82 minutes, then the crowd bits started to get shorter, down to 81 minutes, finally every non-musical bit was reduced to it's essence, with a couple necessary tricky fades and a brief 'thanks' at the end. What resulted is the leanest, meanest FatCats disc I've heard in a while. The rapid-fire songs create an insistence, almost a lean-forward-and-listen-to-what-the-hell-is-going-on kinda vibe. It reminds me of 'released' live shows you'd buy on CD more than a documentation of a concert experience...that wasn't the intention going into this, but I think it is the best way to present the tracks that were left from the recording. And it's fricking great in the car- But I digress...now back to the geekery... Mixdown was also an experiment. This was mixed OTB (out of the box) via stereo stems through various analog EQs. All corrective/subtractive EQ was done on a track-by-track basis via plugins within Vegas, but all sweetening/additive EQ was done externally. Processors included Neve 3126 EQ(drum mix), Siemens 295b EQ(gtr/organ mix), Filtek MK3 EQ(vocals) and DBX 160VU(bass). Soooooo....after all that, the output of the EQs and compressor were mixed via a Rane SM82 Line mixer back into a Stereo Vegas track. This then had a Waves L2 Limiter placed across it and noise-shaped/dithered down to 16 bit. Chopped up in CD-Wave and here you go. Now stop reading and start listening! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay sanislo Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 Streaming right now!!! One of the best sounding recordings of the cats ive heard. Wasnt at this show but im glad there are people out there who put this out so none of us can miss it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
\/\/illy Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 Thanks Eric. I can only imagine how much time you must have put into this. It is really appreciated. You're a great fellow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
\/\/illy Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 Holy shit can that Todd Gillies ever play the guitar. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esau. Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 (edited) Hey Eric,Is there a difference between the archive version & the copy I have? Thanks again eh.[color:red][edit to add]Yep. Same one. Edited January 29, 2007 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boiler Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 That's awesome, I've been waiting a long time for this. Thanks!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cully Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 Sounds amazing. Thanks for all the work!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute_Route Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 I was just thinking about whatever happened to this recording. My ears rang for three days after this show but it was worth it. I've never heard each instrument so loud and yet so clear in a bar. Thanks for doing this, I can't wait to listen.Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwa. Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 make sure you come for this friday for a refill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottieking Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 This stands as a rare example where not only was the sound crystal clear in the venue (and loud and proud)but the recording is so good that it takes you right back.Makes me sorry I can't make the show this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute_Route Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 Best recording of a Fatcats show I've ever heard.I'd be happy if Friday's show turns out 1/2 as good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark tonin Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 Holy shit can that Todd Gillies ever play the guitar. Wow. And holy shit can that Dave Hill ever play the bass. Wow. Makes me sorry I can't make the show this weekend. You will be missed scottieking! Best recording of a Fatcats show I've ever heard.I'd be happy if Friday's show turns out 1/2 as good And if it's twice as good, I look forward to watching you turn into a puddle of joy! Peace, Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calamity Jane Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 wowsa...I agree with the "take you right back" praise. Awesome sound....awesome playing, boys!! totally grooving to this for the third time in as many days (I LOVE having hardwood floors -- my living room is one of the best dance floors there is!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradm Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 (I LOVE having hardwood floors -- my living room is one of the best dance floors there is!)I'm trying very hard not to imagine CJ sliding along the hallway floor the way Tom Cruise did in "Risky Business"...Aloha,Brad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calamity Jane Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 oh, I groove waaaaayyyyyy sexier than that scientology wanker! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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