rubberdinghy Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 Hey SolarGarlic...I counter offered your trade! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 Hal, nice job, you are ripping it up again this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal Johnson Posted October 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 First Trade of the season - Kelly's Komando's trade Niklas Bakcstrom to Seoul Halers for Jason Spezza. I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal Johnson Posted October 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 Hey, where's the thumbtack for this thing anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booche Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 Hal, are we really only allowed one IR spot in our lineup?That seems awfully low. Either add a few more (I would say up to three) or take a vote and see what others think but once someone notices their team has a few injured players, they aint gonna be too pleased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberdinghy Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 boooooooo-yaaaaaaaaaaaaPossibly another blockbuster coming tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamilton Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 First Trade of the season - Kelly's Komando's trade Niklas Bakcstrom to Seoul Halers for Jason Spezza. I know.What can I say - I needed a goalie. One that actually plays, anyway. Rinne and Toskala aren't exactly getting me too many points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave-O Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 Hal, are we really only allowed one IR spot in our lineup?That seems awfully low. Either add a few more (I would say up to three) or take a vote and see what others think but once someone notices their team has a few injured players, they aint gonna be too pleased. Remember the question about man-games last season and your response?No changing the rules part-way through the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booche Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 Fair enough, but make a note to change that for next season. 1 player for IR is not nearly enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberdinghy Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 Someone's hoarding goalies....that's the problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave-O Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 I think 1 IR spot + a bench + unlimited waiver moves is plenty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal Johnson Posted October 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 Is there really only one IR spot? Kinda weird that I didn't notice that. But like DaveO said, there's lots of bench space and unlimited waiver moves. Im all for democracy though, so we can definitely have a vote. If we get 9 responses on here in the next few days in favour of changing the # of spots, I'll change it. I'll put a memo up on the site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamilton Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 I could be wrong, but I think there is one IR spot for the skaters and one for the goalies. I'm pretty sure I had Toskala and Commodore on IR at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 I would say no to changes. We did not do it last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal Johnson Posted October 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Last year I allowed trades based on a couple of things. A) If I thought the trade was fair based on needs of each team. If I thought the trade was fair based on points going each way. C) If I thought the rest of the league (not just one guy) would approve. Ollie and Booche, your trade proposal fits in to none of the above. Aint gonna happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badams Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 I say no changes to the rules after the season starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booche Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 I was just coming in to find out why that trade got vetoed. Hal, it's kinda suspect how you get the only veto rights and you are also near the top of the standings. Without a committee in place I see nofuckingway how you get the final say in ANY trade. That is fucking way more bullshit then the trade that was in place.Anyone not named Hal can have any of my players. I am dumping for nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave-O Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 I don't have a problem with the Commish having power of veto, committees and voting and all that gets too complicated.BUT I don't follow the reasons for that proposed trade getting vetoed? Looks like it helps both teams to me. And "points going each way" is meaningless because points to date don't move - it's all about projected points going each way. Using that criteria no one would ever be able to buy low, sell high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booche Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 I don't have a problem with the Commish having power of vetoUntil a trade you worked on for a week gets vetoed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal Johnson Posted October 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Basically, Ollie is trading all his good players for crappy Ottawa Senator players. If anyone thinks this is fair, or even remotely fun, please let me know. Also, in the proposed trade you guys didnt even TRY to hide the dumbness of it. I would be a crappy commish if I let it go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal Johnson Posted October 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 (edited) And Dave O, I get you on the buy low, sell high idea, but my criteria isn't set in stone. It's actually rather loose. And What I mean by points going each way is that obviously you don't get to keep the points that are already there, but you can assume the player will continue on a certain pace, barring any injuries. Edited October 30, 2009 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave-O Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 First - I think it's Dinghy making the deal with Booche, isn't it?Second - Generic Senator forward? Who are you talking about?Third - I'll try to give you my third party objective view of the trade, just for the sake of discussion and hoping that people don't get pissed off... and even more so because I'm procrastinating at work on Friday morning...Dinghy only has one goalie, he needs a second one. Goalies are at a premium, there are none available on waivers, he's going to have to give something up to get one. He's selling high on Anderson (no one believes he can keep up this pace) to get 2 goalies who both actually play in return.Parise for Olli Jokinen. Parise is the better player today, Dinghy is buying low hoping Jokinen and Iginla develop some chemistry (?).Tyutin for Carle. Carle is the better player. Booche gets the better F, Dinghy gets the better D. Booche gets the better G, but Dinghy gets 2 goalies to be able to fill his starting roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booche Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 but you can assume the player will continue on a certain pace, barring any injuries.So not only are you a mind reader for how the other participants in this league would react to said trade (in which you were obviously wrong) you also know how these players are going to continue for the next 70ish games?[color:purple]Yeeeeeeeeeah, Craig Anderson is definitely going to keep that pace.Please, tell me who to place my Pro-Line bets on this weekend and also tell me who is going to win the Stanley Cup. Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal Johnson Posted October 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Boy is my face red. I completely missed Leclaire in the deal. And I guess Jokinen is off to a slow start. But before you guys rush to lynch the commish, it should be noted that Ollies last trade was his goalie for Spezza. Now he's trading his two best players for three more Senators. What's the deal with that?Maybe I jumped the gun on the veto, as I guess it can be construed that Jokinen, Leclaire, and Carle are worth it for Parise and Anderson, but something seems fishy. All I want is a fair league, and if you guys (rest of the league)think it's fair, I can let the trade go through.I really have no interest in holding all the cards. I can honestly say that I would have complained about the trade to anyone else who may have been the commish if I wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booche Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Get ready for more red because its been said already.This trade doesnt involve Ollie. What's the deal with that?While you might have a hard time believing this because you are a faux fan when it comes to cheering for one team, but some fantasy players enjoy participating more when they own players who play for their favorite team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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