Guest Low Roller Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 [From CBC.ca] Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty wants to raise tobacco taxes in his province and he wants Quebec to follow suit to prevent smuggling across the provincial border. Ontario and Quebec have the lowest cigarette prices in Canada, but the new tax hikes could bring a carton of 200 cigarettes to $75, up from an average today of $50 a carton. This means a package of 25 cigarettes would rise from about $8 to about $10. McGuinty said Quebec Premier Jean Charest has "shown an interest" in raising his province's tobacco taxes at the same time. McGuinty said there are 12,000 deaths a year in Canada from smoking, costing the economy more than $4 billion annually. The throne speech of the province's new Liberal government on Thursday is expected to announce a provincewide smoking ban in workplaces and indoor public spaces. Many cities have imposed smoking restrictions in bars, restaurants and public buildings, but this would be the country's first provincewide ban. Both the tobacco tax hike and the smoking ban were part of the Liberal election platform. The Liberals also promised to ban countertop and behind-the-counter displays of tobacco product. A similar law in Saskatchewan was struck down in October. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberdinghy Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 Sweet lord...Smoking used to seem sooooo cool! Time to quit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
\/\/illy Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 Awesome! I read that if you're a pack-a-day smoker, it'll cost you $3500/year to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esau Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 They did it in the eighties,the nineties and again now.(Probally the 70's also but I didnt smoke then)no big deal. Not gonna make a difference.Even with the increase they still wont be as exspensive as they were in the nineties when the gave it that crazy hike.If all goes well I won't be smoking too much longer anyhow and given my medical problems its goin to be for the best anyway. Go ahead raise the price,I know some folks on the reserve who are just wanting this to happen. Welcome back(well its always been there)underground economy,time to make some more folks millionaires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberdinghy Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 I don't ever remember smokes being over 8 bucks a pack... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esau Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 quote:Originally posted by rubberdinghy: I don't ever remember smokes being over 8 bucks a pack... I remember them hittin $9-$10 bucks in the nineties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elemeno Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 whats the going rate for an oz of kind tobacco these days?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theDrew Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 well said palaceprincess, from cbc.ca---->>>> " A 10 per cent price increase should result in a two to three per cent drop in the number of smokers" how the fuck can you attribute a "2 or 3 percent drop" in smokers to anything, this may just be annual random flunctuation in the amount of smokers in this country way to rape smoker's wallets dolton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
\/\/illy Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 quote: Originally posted by NewRider: It's times like these when I thank god that I'm so rich as fuck that I can afford to do anything I want to! Now you're starting to sound like Conrad Black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 That dog fucker also wants to make Ontario completely smoke free. Fuck you and your social engineering. The hate is SO on. Thank god I can always retire to Quebec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freeker Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 Fucking Dalton.....making me regret voting for him already, time to quit I guess. Hey Esau, been on Lotrats much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 4 days no smokes, 4 days no smokes.... I hope I don't break this time. Nic fit, Nic fit. I can do this, I can do this. My quiting tactics have been to do sit-ups everytime I want one. This has led to mild entertainment for some of my friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esau Posted November 20, 2003 Report Share Posted November 20, 2003 quote:Originally posted by FreekerByTheSpeaker: Hey Esau, been on Lotrats much Nope,not before today,until you mentioned it. But I do see thats where the emoticons are from and I found where my buddy has been hiding lately and where he got the list of emoticons.. I recognize your avatar from the hub there and your signature from here though. Say hi to Mr.Fish for me,I don't need to hang on a site that that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikey d Posted November 20, 2003 Report Share Posted November 20, 2003 boo . . . . luckily i have cut myself down to 4 a day on weekdays and ive stuck uy it for a while, so a pack can last me a week, but nonetheless . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikey d Posted November 20, 2003 Report Share Posted November 20, 2003 boo . . . . luckily i have cut myself down to 4 a day on weekdays and ive stuck uy it for a while, so a pack can last me a week, but nonetheless . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PalacePrincess Posted November 20, 2003 Report Share Posted November 20, 2003 fuck you mcguinty, you pointed heady reptilian kitten eater! that's right, rape the working poor and those on welfare even further. if quitting smoking was that easy, don't you think more people would have by now? it's not exactly breaking information that it's bad for you, did spending millions and millions of ontario's money on graphic cigarette packs and jacking the price up to $8 as it is cause tons of people to quit? ah, i'd have to say noooooooooo. cigarettes were $10 in the '90's? in ontario? highest i remember them being was $6.75 and that was around '94. was this before then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewRider Posted November 20, 2003 Report Share Posted November 20, 2003 whoa?!?!?! It's times like these when I thank god that I'm so rich as fuck that I can afford to do anything I want to! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paisley Posted November 20, 2003 Report Share Posted November 20, 2003 they went up in the 90s then there was a public outcry and a change in government and they came back down ah well, I can use an excuse to cut down... when I lived out west it was about the same price for smokes, just didn't smoke as much 40 cents a smoke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooly Posted November 20, 2003 Report Share Posted November 20, 2003 boo fugginurns its either timetoquit or time to go to the reserve more often. boo urns either way,,, they want ppl to quit so bad but imagine how much money they would lose intaxes if we all did quit. they dont really want us to quit. yay new puter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esau Posted November 20, 2003 Report Share Posted November 20, 2003 quote: Originally posted by PalacePrincess: cigarettes were $10 in the '90's? in ontario? highest i remember them being was $6.75 and that was around '94. was this before then? Yeah,not everywhere,in Hamilton I paid $7.50 a few times,shit they are about $7 or more at the store across the street already for at least 3 months.I first paid 9.25 for a pack while up north around Cochrane,think it was around 94 actually,also the at the same time if you had hit a 7-11 back then they were well over $7.50 So maybe it was .75¢ less than $10 that I paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paisley Posted November 20, 2003 Report Share Posted November 20, 2003 so how tough would it be to grow / cure tobacco in your basement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esau Posted November 20, 2003 Report Share Posted November 20, 2003 Educate don't legisate. If the goverment wants folks to quit so badly why don't they go after the tobacco companies? Also I would like to know how much of this new tax actually goes to health care as they so easily say. Seems kinda hypocritical to me(I know its goverment,but shit) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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