AdamH Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 The Atkins diet is getting to be ridiculous these days, and I'm sure others have noticed that the fast food companies are jumping on the bandwagon. The biggest jawdropper is that KFC is promoting their chicken as "recommended for low carb diets" which, at least to me, points out the INSANE DANGERS OF HIGH FAT FOODS. Never mind that you're reducing Carbs to zero then adding back...that is perfectly fine...its the overcompensating with high-fat proteins and no limitations that seems a little nuts. So for the drastic and immediate weight loss you get from Atkins, in exchange you increase your risk of heart disease and cholesterol-related illnesses, and since most of the people I know who are on atkins don't exercise, the danger is exponentially higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bouche Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 Have you read the Atkin's method yet? If you haven't, I'd suggest it. I've only read snippets, but he's got some reasons behind fat and how doesn't clog you up. I want to get a copy and read the whole thing. It's a very interesting diet, but the catch is, if you adopt it, it's pretty much for life. After you've gone through the various stages, you don't reallly end up eating only meat. Good carbs a slowly reintroduced into your diet, but your primary source of calories is coming from protein. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onthejourney Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 it is definitely getting out of hand and so many people don't realize that completely cutting carbs from the diet is soooo bad for your body. What that does is raise ketone levels to an unhealthy state. I can't begin to remember how many times i was told the evils of this diet during my first year studying herbology...especially in my nutrition class. here is a quote from a site i found Ketoacidosis Ketoacidosis is the result of not getting enough glucose. When you go on low-carbohydrate, high protein diets it causes a lack of glucose in your body. In order for the citric acid cycle to function properly it requires glucose. Without glucose our bodies think that we are starving and CoA from the citric acid cycle as well as the breakdown of stored fats that produce ketones. The produced ketones lowers the pH level of the bloodstream. Acidic ketones continue to build up as the person unknowingly poisons themselves. If your body becomes to acidic or to basic many enzymes won’t function. In extreme cases of ketoacidosis people can go into a coma state or even die. Diabetics are more suscceptable to ketoacidosis. People with diabetes lack sufficient insulin, a hormone needed to allow the body to use glucose for energy. When glucose isn't available, body fat is broken down instead. Ketones are the by-products of fat, so when fat is metabolized, ketones build up in the blood and "spill" over into the urine. Diets which don’t provide enough carbohydrates or glucose, produced from carbohydrates, are very dangerous because the citric acid cycle is held back causing the body to slowly poison itself. When on these diets you must monitor your ketone levels. " People seem to think there is this quick fix for being fat. There is no quick fix but it is really simple....lots of veggies, fruit, fibre and properly portioned protein...and of course exercise...if ya want to lose weight, ya gotta move. please people...don't completely cut carbs. It really puts your body out of whack and could seriously harm you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bouche Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 That state is definately BAD for a prolonged period. But the Atkin's method only places you there for a short period of time...at the very beginning. I don't think that the diet EVER completely cuts out carbs. The first stage takes you down to almost no carbs, but the main goal is to completely knock out all them bad carbs. Again, gradually adding good healthy, vitamin rich carbs back into the diet is what you're required to do in the following stages until you get to a balanced point for you body. I couldn't live without peanut butter on whole grain toast though. Maybe for a month...but that would be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paisley Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 I only eat meat and drink gravy as I'm kind of thin I like my meat to be loaded with steroids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paisley Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 (kidding) best to listen to your body and eat what it tells you to... its good to let your body know what kind of non animal stuff exists too though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamH Posted January 8, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 Bouche I have read how it works. Basically it's zero carbs and you add them back until you stop losing wieght. The trouble with that is it does not distinguish nutritionally useful carbohydrates (such as those in fruit...which is not allowed at the beginning since all fruits have natural sugars). There's also no accounting for vitamins and nutrients in individual fruits and vegetables, so you take people like my Mom who figures she can just take vitamin pills while on Atkins...not a great strategy as the vitamin content is marginally absorbed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bouche Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 I do find it strange that fruits like apples, oranges and bananas are not considered in the diet at all. I just got my hands on an electric copy (pdf format) of the book through the magical internet and had a breeze through the appendices and the "Atkin's Kitchen". He basically tells you to load your fridge with Vegetables and Berries. There is no fruit at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MamaPink Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 If you wanna lose weight, just exorcize. Burn what you eat - simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kung Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 It's a cult give it a rest kids. Atkins Diet, String Cheese Incident, Scientology same diff. Mindfucking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irie Guy Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 quote:Originally posted by bouche: I do find it strange that fruits like apples, oranges and bananas are not considered in the diet at all. It's because all of these fruits have very high natural sugar levels. Dropping my carb intake worked for me last winter I dropped 20 pounds. It's damn hard being a low carb veggie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c-towns Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 quote: It's damn hard being a low carb veggie. This makes me curious,What are some of your recipes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paisley Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 quote: Originally posted by kung: It's a cult give it a rest kids. Atkins Diet, String Cheese Incident, Scientology same diff. Mindfucking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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