mark tonin

It looks great, and good luck with the recording!

Peaec, Mark

Looking forward to some acoustic Fatties at the Boathouse!

Peace, Mark

I try to be as aware as I can without driving myself crazy. Sometimes I have to tune out for the good of my own mental health.

Peace, Mark

well, if burning it is ok, can someone burn me a copy?

Me too pretty please! I haven't seen it yet and don't have a dvd burner, but would love a copy if someone can make it happen and Scott and the Fatties are cool with burning.

Peace, Mark

My little daughter Katlin is not so little anymore ... she recently turned 11. Wow, I guess that means I'm getting old! Liana and I love her to bits ... she's a voracious reader, really into gymnastics (can now do a double twist during her floor routine), and brings much love and joy to our household. Plus she tolerates and even enjoys playing with her younger brother at times. ::

She's not really a big rock music fan, but she still rocks in a big way!

Peace, Mark

Happy birthday to Scot Regan ... he's more fun than a barrel of monkeys!

It's been close to 4 years since we first met at Frontier Town, my friend, and then met again at a Fatties show in Waterloo and realized "hey, we live in the same city!" We've been to lots of great shows since then, had lots of fun times, shared many ups and downs ... here's to a future filled with lots more fun and friendship.

Peace, Mark

Hey Dr. Evil,

Here's an interesting and perhaps useful read if you haven't already seen this:

fingernail fingerpicker article

Good luck with finding a solution.

Peace, Mark

Stu doggy dog dog ... have a great bday!!!

Peace, Mark

I've heard of broken condoms, failed vasectomies, tubal ligation failures, John Bobbit, and the immaculate conception or virgin birth of Jesus, but I think this one may top all of those!

Not sure if I'll use it in my Grade 11 Law class though ...

Peace, Mark

You mice make me squeak with laughter ... it's about time some of your banter made it to a public forum! ::

Peace, Mark

or

Squeak, arkmouse

What a great post Jay ... it made me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. Good luck playing, good luck promoting ...

And MarcO, thanks for the huge belly laugh that I had when reading your post!

Peace, Mark

Hmmm, an interesting question secondtube, and one that I haven't specifically read about. I will see if I can find any info on that specific issue when I'm at school tomorrow.

As for property division, SuperFreak is correct.

Here is one of the teaching notes that I use with my Grade 11 Law students. Note the common law info near the bottom of it.

In Ontario, the Family Law Act, 1986 outlines how property is divided when a marriage ends.

Generally, the value of all property acquired during the marriage is divided equally, with certain limited exceptions.

Exceptions include:

- the value of property owned by each spouse prior to the marriage (it goes back to the original owner)

- any gifts, inheritance, or life insurance proceeds received by one spouse during the marriage (as long as they are kept separate and are not put into the matrimonial home)

- any property that the spouses had previously agreed, by way of contract, was not to be included in the division of property

- note that the matrimonial home (the principle place of residence for the married couple) is subject to equal division regardless of how the home was acquired, unless there is a contract saying otherwise. It doesn't matter if one spouse owned the home prior to the marriage - it is split evenly unless a contract says otherwise.

It does not matter why the marriage broke down or which spouse earned more money – each spouse is entitled to half of the net family property acquired during the marriage.

Only legally married spouses are entitled to use the rules of property division provided by the Family law Act, 1986. If a common law relationship ends, each person in the relationship is entitled to the assets that he or she purchased (if it's in your name or you can prove you bought it then it's yours). Unlike legally married couples, property acquired during a common law relationship is not automatically split.

I know that it doesn't answer secondtube's question, but I thought some of you would find the info interesting and useful.

Consider the above when getting married or when entering into a common law relationship.

Peace, Mark

Hmmm,

Not really sure of exact numbers, but for these bands it's into the double digits:

Fat Cats

Grateful Dead

Phish

Diesel Dog

nero

Burt Neilson Band

Jomomma

Peace, Mark

... for all of the work that you do!

It is hard work being a promoter, and I'm sure many people that visit this board are grateful for the numerous cool shows that you've booked in Toronto over the last while. I've always enjoyed communicating with you and reading your posts, as your genuine kindness and huge love of music always shines through, and you always seem willing to try to learn from your mistakes and improve upon what you do.

I'm sure that many bands appreciate your efforts as well.

I personally still have to get to a Toronto show of yours ... wow it's been a while since I've been to Toronto for any show! Been busy busy busy of late, and to be honest that trip into Toronto can be such a pain in the ass at times. Having said that, the work that you do bringing bands to Toronto is appreciated by me and many others.

Trying to spread some early morning positive vibes ... I finally must be recovering from this nasty cold that has made me a grumpy old man lately.

Peace, Mark

According to Wassabi's site, Thur. March 31 at the Starlight in Waterloo ... I think that the band will go over well in that venue.

Peace, Mark

I wasn't sure how to take Bob's comment, but I can definitely see how some people would take offence to it.

Paisley, you make a good point about fans travelling to shows. I'm thinking of the Ottawa show a few weeks ago and the people that travelled from southern Ontario to be there. It would have been a huge drag if they couldn't get in, and I would have felt terrible ...

Peace, Mark

a)jamband is not a genre. Never has been.

Open for debate, although I don't have the time or the energy for that one right now. It seems to be the view of a number of people these days though ... either it's not a genre or it's a dead genre. Personally, I think that at some point in the future, music historians will include a genre or subgenre called "jamband" when describing the history and evolution of music. Some books already do. (OK, I guess I had a bit of energy for the debate.)

Peace, Mark

I believe Bob's comment was probably more motivated by the fact that people said we were jipping them. Sorry, but comments like those are the ones that actually sting, not the opinions about our music."

Yes, this would be hard to swallow, especially given just how damn hard it is to make a living playing music!

Peace, Mark

Wow, lots of emotion in this thread.

A few thoughts from somebody that was not at the show:

1. It is very hard to predict how many people will come out to a show. Booking too small of a room causes problems (like on Friday night's show) but booking too big of a room can also cause problems. It makes sense for a band to go back to a room that they have enjoyed playing at and that has worked in the past, unless there is a blatantly obvious reason why it won't work.

2. Advance ticket sales are tough to swing for most bar shows. Unless it's a big show with lots of hype or for a special event (e.g. Halloween or NYE) it just doesn't seem worth it to print tickets for the few people that will buy them.

3. I'd be upset as well if I had to stand in the cold waiting to get into a bar, especially if I was a lomgtime fan. Having said that, it's a tough problem for a bar owner or a band or a promoter to solve when it happens. Letting too many people into the bar causes other problems that piss people off (no room to move) and also can cause owners legal and safety problems. And you can't kick people out to make room for the more lomgtime fans who are standing in line.

4. Bands should play the music that they want to play ... the music that they feel. Hopefully what they play meshes well with what the audience wants to hear. If not, the band shouldn't alter what they are playing (unless they want to), and the audience should be able to express their disappointment ... preferably tactfully ... at least that's my approach (in case you didn't notice) :: ... remember, you are commenting on a person's artistic expression, which is very emotional and personal stuff in lots of cases.

5. Tim Walker's post was a treat to read ... thanks for taking the time to say that Tim ... you are a gentleman.

6. Once again I am reminded of just how hard important music is to all of us ... that's what I'm going to take from this thread.

Peace, Mark

Thanks for the Bowie info Hamilton ... it got me to do a bit more reading about the tour. This was some of the interesting info I found about the 1974 Live album:

"The Tower Theatre shows on 14 and 15 July were nearly cancelled at the last moment when Bowie's backing band, after hearing the news that the shows were to be recorded for an LP, refused to play without an increased fee in line with the normal recording rates. The normal show fee of $150 for a member of the group was increased to $5,000 after Bowie relented."

Peace, Mark

David Live - David Bowie at the Tower Philadelphia (1974)

I used to have this on vinyl years ago and saw it on cd in the public library the other day so I borrowed it.

Classic Bowie songs played live, with a full (10 piece?)band. Some full-on rockin' jams as well, including an 8+ minute version of Width of a Circle (not sure if that one is on a studio album at all). Some tasty rock guitar work by Earl Slick.

I get bored with some of the songs because I overplayed them years ago, but still an enjoyable listen.

Peace, Mark

Hey Del and others,

I communicated with Mark Wilson fairly recently about this (i.e. less than a week ago), and the festival is a go for the May long weekend - May 20, 21, 22.

Mark W. also said that he'd have some details soon.

As soon as I know anything more I will let others know.

Peace, Mark

Greg - Once again, thanks for all of your efforts getting the music of the Fatties out there for people to enjoy.

Your post about this show actually inspired me to spend some time last night clearing stuff off of my hard drive and finally installing the flac converter so that I could download and listen to this show. I'm going to download the show later this morning ... I did download d1t4 (shithawk) last night and it worked like a charm. Now I've just got to scrape the money together to buy a new computer (or maybe just a new BIG hard drive to start).

Oh yeah,another great thing about this show is the rare "Shithawk",I believe the name later changed to "Give it away".

I'm currently listening to this track right now ... this song brings back great memories for me ... it was always a treat to have Tyler sing one ... I never new that "Shithawk" was the original name of the song ... I've always known the song as I Give It Away.

I'd characterize this music as straight-ahead rock'n'roll, and damn good rock'n'roll, at that.

I agree wholeheartedly bradm ... the Fatties have written a whole slew of great songs over the years ... feel-good rock and roll ... catchy songs that get the body moving and the mind spinning ... sometimes they jam, and jam well, but what makes the Fatties such a great band in my opinion is the quality of their original material ... they have awesome songs!

A full-blown "meow bark squeak" show in Ottawa would be awesome ... hmmm ... it's tough to get those fat cats moving but I'll see what they say the next time I talk with them ... and I echo what Greg said about trips to Ottawa ... I've made the journey 3 times in total over the years for music shows and have had a great time on each journey. I look forward to the next time!

Peace, Mark

Awesome Dave, I'm sure it would have be loads of fun!

"*Someday* someone at Laurier or U of W will come through with a research grant or a job or something.... "

I'm keeping my fingers, toes, and everything else that I can keep crossed crossed for the above grant or job to materialize ... somebody at one of Waterloo's institutes of higher learning will eventually see the merit in having Dr. Evil on their side!

Peace, Mark

Thanks for the great review and pics, Dima! Awesome!

I remember at the last Come Together Fest somebody saying to me that I looked a lot like Sam Bush ... I couldn't really put a picture of him in my mind at the time so I didn't reallly make the connection and forgot about it until this thread (and the other thread about this show) ... now I get it!

If only I could get my playing chops into his league ... I don't know if any amount of practice on my end would get me there ... I think I'll just have to be happy looking like him! ::

Thanks again Dima for taking the time to share.

Peace, Mark