Jakis Posted July 16, 2004 Report Share Posted July 16, 2004 has anyone on the board ever applied or taught english over seas. Me and friend really want to do this once we graduate and are wondering where to look to get info. Anyhelp would be greatly appreciated. Thanks..also if anyone has share your thoughts. Thanks, Jake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewRider Posted July 16, 2004 Report Share Posted July 16, 2004 my ex-girlfriend is leaving for Bali next month.. I was supposed to go through it as well but decided against it. The course is pretty cheap but you pay for all kinds of crazy stuff like nearly $1000 in vaccinations. I think hamilton and maybe someone else from this board have done it before they would probably have better insight than me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del Posted July 16, 2004 Report Share Posted July 16, 2004 Ask Stapes the next time you see him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewRider Posted July 16, 2004 Report Share Posted July 16, 2004 you shaved your beard Del??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimoe Posted July 16, 2004 Report Share Posted July 16, 2004 One big worry is that if you go over-seas, it can become a trap. The money is good and tough to give-up. Also, while there, you can easily alienate yourself from making work-related connections in Canada. My cousin has been " stuck " in Japan for 11 years, but my friend parlayed his teaching experiences in Korea into a job in Ottawa. Just be smart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del Posted July 16, 2004 Report Share Posted July 16, 2004 you shaved your beard Del??? Yep... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakis Posted July 16, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2004 thanks for the warning..i really want to look into it before i go and learn and be prepared. Me and my friend plan on going together if it is possible, so it hopefully will make the transition a little easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewRider Posted July 16, 2004 Report Share Posted July 16, 2004 they encourage people to go in pairs or in a group because there's less chance of getting homesick and you breaking the contract by leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blane Posted July 16, 2004 Report Share Posted July 16, 2004 I've taught in South Korea and Australia. A great experience that I would recommend for anyone. Save a bit of money and get to travel the world. What more can you ask for? Do you have concrete plans on where to go, where to teach etc? What's your degree in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakis Posted July 16, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2004 I do not have any plans where to teach yet..but am beginning to really look into it. My degree is in cultural anthropology at carleton university. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewRider Posted July 16, 2004 Report Share Posted July 16, 2004 You can teach English in Bali? Yeah, Jamie's pretty excited to be going. She's over there for a two year long contract. That was one thing that kinda turned me sour on going, I don't think I would wanna go for that long. That and the blasted heat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groove Fetish Posted July 16, 2004 Report Share Posted July 16, 2004 I have a friend who started teaching in Bali and then moved to Mexico and has been in Siciliy for the last few years- you can teach english a lot of places! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewRider Posted July 16, 2004 Report Share Posted July 16, 2004 I'm currently working right here in Ontario teaching english to Jared... man, it's difficult! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velvet Posted July 16, 2004 Report Share Posted July 16, 2004 I've taught in Taiwan and my friend Jojo has taught in Japan, Taiwan, Hungary, South Korea, etc. Lots of places don't require that you take a course. I recommend it, but there is some downsides. My ex girlfriend was under contract in South Korea when their money crashed. When she started she was making the equivelent of $1600 a month or so, and she was saving it up. Then the money crashed, but her contract of course didn't change. Her pay and all her savings was chopped to about a third of what it used to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PalacePrincess Posted July 16, 2004 Report Share Posted July 16, 2004 I'm currently working right here in Ontario teaching english to Jared... man, it's difficult! bwahahahaahaha, you crack me up, aaron what qualifications do you need to do this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewRider Posted July 16, 2004 Report Share Posted July 16, 2004 I'm currently working right here in Ontario teaching english to Jared... man, it's difficult! bwahahahaahaha, you crack me up, aaron what qualifications do you need to do this? you just need to have your grade 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradm Posted July 16, 2004 Report Share Posted July 16, 2004 I'm currently working right here in Ontario teaching english to Jared... man, it's difficult! bwahahahaahaha, you crack me up, aaron what qualifications do you need to do this? you just need to have your grade 10 Is that in decimal or binary? Aloha, Brad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamilton Posted July 18, 2004 Report Share Posted July 18, 2004 I spent just over a year in South Korea, and would recommend it to anyone... if you think you might enjoy that sort of thing, you probably will. The most important thing is to get yourself in with a reputable company - there are a lot of fly-by-night operations out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blane Posted July 19, 2004 Report Share Posted July 19, 2004 I agree with Hamilton. Be careful who you set up with, or you might get screwed. The universities are best, but generally you need an MA or at least a degree in Linguistics/ESL education. Two good sites to check out are www.eslcafe.com (they have good discussion boards on the topic) and www.ohayosensei.com for Japan. At Ohayo Sensei you need to download the list of jobs for the month or week or whatever it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meggo Posted July 19, 2004 Report Share Posted July 19, 2004 another good program for japan is the JET programme, i have a friend who's been over there for a year with JET and she's planning on staying for a quite a while longer, i know the money is pretty awesome. it's a long application process but definitely worth looking into. i've been looking into teaching english overseas too, i really want to go to latin america and shore up my spanish. the money is in asia, though. best of luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewRider Posted July 19, 2004 Report Share Posted July 19, 2004 There are quite a few countries that you don't need to have ANY college/university degrees. All my ex did was take the TESOL course and she's on her way to Bali. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgnor Posted July 19, 2004 Report Share Posted July 19, 2004 A B.A. and a couple of courses will do too in most places, just gotta find'em. Taiwan is hurting for teachers right now and so are places like Indonesia or Pakistan, but that's just dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamilton Posted July 20, 2004 Report Share Posted July 20, 2004 If you are interested in teaching in Korea, here is a very informative link from the Canadian Embassy in Seoul: Read me Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevO Posted July 20, 2004 Report Share Posted July 20, 2004 I too am considering teaching abroad in the not so distant future.. There are a few places in Japan where I can make good money and also surf when I`m not working, which sounds perfect! Anyhoo, a friend of a friend`s sister wrote this and I got a hold of it.. For what its worth.... Well first and foremost it is impossible to get the best teaching position over the internet. While I am sure this does not surprise you, I mention because you should get into the idea of fighting for getting the most you can. Anywhere in Asia is about money money money. They will give you peanuts if they can even though you are qualified and pay someone with no experience more just because they told them what they wanted to hear. I don't suggest that money is everything, but if you are working your ass off and some dumbass who yells at the kids all day because he / she doesn't know sh!t about sh!t, then you want to be making more than them. You are North American. Interviewing means nothing to them. They will hire you off the plane with no experience. Having said that I don't knock you getting practice, I just want you to know that you don't have to. Some easy things to say: college or university graduated TESL, TEFL, TOEIC, TOEFL, IELTS, etc. etc. trained experience teaching English as a second language love working with kids (most work is teaching kids) I think (insert Asian culture here) is very interesting and THE MOST important thing you plan to be here for several years Anything else doesn't really matter to them, they just want to see your white face. Over the internet ot phone they will probably offer you around $20 CAN an hour (because you have credentials), anyone ANYONE who steps off the plane looking for a job will immediately be offered $30 CAN an hour, even some redneck trailer park reject who can't feed himself would be scooped up. I believe Korea is around the same, but it is more expensive to live there. Anything else you tell them, they will say: wow! What a good idea. I can see you really care about children. You must be a very good teacher. You are very pretty. I think you will like working here. We can help you find a place to live. You should meet my family, etc. etc. They only care about hooking you in. From what I have seen and heard, all of Asia is this way. I assure it is nothing personal, most of them see schools as another form of McDonald's and they just have to wait for the money to flow in... and it will. Once you have the game figured out it's easy to play. The difficulty is getting past the fact that everyone lies to you. Losing face is just a nice way of saying I'm not mature enough to deal a situation where I have made a mistake. Don't let me change your ideals. I'll let Taiwan do that. Overall Asia is a good place. I hope that you guys can save some money, show up and relax for a bit, before getting work. Most people get here and find a job immediately, understandably. If you can wait it out, you will be much happier with your situation. And that ends living in Asia pt.1 Please join us again for pt.2 coping with pollution and other foul smells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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