secondtube Posted October 18, 2004 Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 Well, this morning was my chance to have myself heard in court, fighting two traffic tickets. I was pulled over in a speed trap, was charged 70 in a 50, and double the fine as it was a community safety zone. I was also docked for having an expired licence (doh!) Anyway, my tickets totalled 550 dollars combined (190 for speeding and 350 for expired licence). Not to mention the insurance raise, as the speeding ticket incurred a Three Point Loss. Well, spoke with the prosecution, showed my proof of fulltime student, AND proof that i got the licence issue taken care of the Next Day, and she suggested a reduced speed from 20 over to 15 over, So No Point Loss, AND she suggested a reduction in price from 350 to 100 dollars on the expired licence ticket. Well, when i got to the judge to finalize, the judge Further reduced the expired licence ticket to 90 dollars, dropping the total price from 550 to 170, and No Point Loss! I figure i easily saved over Three Grand this morning (can u imagine what would have happened to my insurance rates for the next three years!). I understand my rates will STILL rise a bit, but not nearly as much as they would have.... My advice to anyone who gets a ticket for anything, GO FOR EARLY RESOLUTION!! Of the 11 people on the docket, ALL 11 people got reductions! (i got the biggest by far) I'm happy. (time to write a midterm now!) :: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple foot Posted October 18, 2004 Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 I would also suggest to not speed and not drive without a valid license to save yourself the trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secondtube Posted October 18, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 thanks pal. as the prosecutor said to me this morning, having a perfect driving record only means you Haven't Been Caught. Thats it. Nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple foot Posted October 18, 2004 Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 I have a perfect driving record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AD Posted October 18, 2004 Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 geez, that's good news for you dude. I've had 3 speeding tickets this year, the only one i didn't want to fight (no way to appeal, i was definitely guilty and deserved the fine) was in ottawa. the 2 i would have fought were in quebec and new york. No way I'm gonna wade into the Riviere-du-Loup justice system as an allophone, and no way I'm gonna travel all the way to Buffalo to get told by some dickhead judge that there's nothing I can do. Good work on getting your reductions! AD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secondtube Posted October 18, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 which means nothing to the courts, as i saw this morning. they didn't even care to see my perfect driving record abstract. She said they give absolutely NO preferential treatment to those w/ perfect driving records.... EVERYONE does things wrong, but sometimes the unfortunate get caught. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hux Posted October 18, 2004 Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 That's encouraging to hear Steve. I was hit from behind about a month ago, and charged with it (!) due to an "illegal" lane change. Long story, but this f*cko was speeding, slammed his breaks on, I could hear the screeching, and left about a 15 foot skid mark on the street - then claimed he was going 20km on the report. So....I'm going to court, hope to come out on top, ie. insurance, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms.Huxtable Posted October 18, 2004 Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 Congrats Second Tube. That must feel pretty darn good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamH Posted October 18, 2004 Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 Well done. The no points thing is big, when you posted this originally I think I may have mentioned that your insurance company may forgive your first offenceif it's a minor one such as speeding under 20 k/m. If it's your second well getting no points is likely going to minimize the impact on your fees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elemeno Posted October 18, 2004 Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 so let me get this straight .....its ok to speed all you want, where you want, with an expired licence. then just go to court, cry like a baby because nothings your fault when your a student? guess i should go back to school and learn a thing or two. :: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secondtube Posted October 18, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 at least one thing would be good Insta. i guess they figure students actually care about their future. Crazy concept eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diggzz Posted October 18, 2004 Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 Yah but if YOU care about YOUR future should YOU not obey traffic laws. I admit speeding is something that everyone does, but driving without a license is YOUR FAULT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneMtn Posted October 18, 2004 Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 In my experience, traffic court bears little resemblance to "real" Court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
U.FProductions Posted October 18, 2004 Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 nice steveo!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secondtube Posted October 19, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2004 i had a licence, and was fully insured... it just had expired... just a minor lapse of judgement...that is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneMtn Posted October 19, 2004 Report Share Posted October 19, 2004 Don't even worry about it. I wouldn't even call that a lapse in judgment; just an oversight. In my work, I defend negligent drivers every day. You wouldn't even believe the boneheaded things people do. secondtube, your transgression was nothing, in the grand scheme of things. Good job in Court today, and congratulations on a favourable result! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuleMomma Posted October 19, 2004 Report Share Posted October 19, 2004 I read an article in the Toronto Star recently about how many speeding tickets appear to be obvious cash grabs, especially when most fines are negotiable. I have to go for yet another speeding ticket on December 3rd, and am hoping the OPP are also negotiable. BTW ST, unless your insurance company does regular checks, there's a possibility they may not even know about your day in court...just don't bring it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velvet Posted October 19, 2004 Report Share Posted October 19, 2004 Hey StnMtn, how come Court is capitalised when you refer to where you sometimes work, as opposed to traffic court? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneMtn Posted October 19, 2004 Report Share Posted October 19, 2004 That's funny you noticed that. It's actually a work-habit. For some reason, there are certain words we capitalize by way of convention (Court, Statement of Claim, Plaintiff...), even though it's not grammatically correct, and I can't avoid it when I write informally. When I describe a type of court that has limited jurisdiction bestowed by statute, rather than referring to "the Court", by which I usually mean a superior court with "inherent jurisdiction" and is sort of used as a proper noun, I don't capitalize; and vice versa. (I know it sounds nit-picky and nerdy as hell, but you asked...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velvet Posted October 19, 2004 Report Share Posted October 19, 2004 Interesting. Typos by convention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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