paisley Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 from wired.com A whole new kind of K ration: If it's good enough for ravers, it's good enough for U.S. troops. That's the thinking, apparently, behind the Army's decision to test the animal tranquilizer ketamine as a way to soothe injured soldiers. The drug -- known in clubs as Special K -- has been reducing partygoers to gurgling blobs for more than a decade. This year, the Army has been running final, phase III Food and Drug Administration trials on a quarter-dose nasal inhaler of ketamine to see if it can substitute for morphine. "With morphine, the soldier's just gorfed, he can't do anything," said Col. Bob Vandre, of the Army's Medical Research and Materiel Command. "With this, he can drive his truck, or shoot his gun."Vandre said he knew full well that ketamine "had been snorted by people at rave parties" and that "it makes you kind of weird, sort of like acid." However, he promised, the military's dose of ketamine would not have the same effects. wounded soldiers driving trucks, shooting guns loaded on Ketamine will certainly worry insurgents (and pretty much anyone else) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elemeno Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 The army's on ecstacy so they say, I read all about it in USA today, they stepped up urine testing to make it go away, but its hard to kill the enemiy on ol' MDMA I sent the king of contradiction, to the queen of mystery. the prince of paradox, it dogs me like a flee. so i set my troops upon him and bring him to his knee's when all is said and done i'll pick a fight with the chinese. the queen she stared him long and hard and then she softly said... "I'm putting down with niceed oil to ease your throbbing head" she slipped a note into an appricote and threw it to the whores the jester read the word something wicked thisway roars. "the prise they put on the heads, with folks with pointed views, would be better spent on the children without shoes. and then the king condoned the actions of the liar, she forgot to weigh the awsome power of the village cryer" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 stay away from special K! that's all i'm going to say! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secondtube Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 only drug i've never done solely on the fact that everyone i've seen on it looked like they were retarded...yes, as in mentally handicapped.... drooling on themselves....can't stand up....yay looks like fun times! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esau Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 Funny how behind the Americans are with this stuff (unlike Canada whose used it for years),in 1997 after my spinal surgery I was given Ketamine to knock me out & ease the pain since the morphine & demerol(sp?) wasn't working one bit.I know my buddy Brendon was also given it after his couple stomach surgeries for Crohns.Strangely enough the grade that is used medicinaly is nothing like what the ravers use or drop,obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaggyBalls Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 K isn't a party drug for me...however, it's one that i quickly learned to control...the reason i don't do it very often is that i enjoy it too much and i don't needto be spending $30 a night on being antisocial... but if you're looking to make your own movie, i'd say throw on Bob Belden's Black Dahlia, down a vial, and close your eyes. you won't need a camera. (definitely not a social high...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple foot Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 special k not just for horses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamH Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 I've never done it and never will. The whole "organic, don't panic" thing, although trivial and not rock-solid, stuck with me after high school. And as Steve said I've seen some people voluntarily reducing themselves to vegetables with that stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchoulia Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 A friend of mine tried K for the first time at "Terrapin Station" (Alpine Valley '02). Me: So what's K do for ya? Him: It. Makes. You. Fuuuuuuuucked. Uuuuuup. Me: What? Him: I'm a baby! Goo-goo! Ga-ga! That was enough to make me never want to try it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve from Cleveland Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 I've don it enough to know that although I like it, it does severly impair you. One time, I was sitting on the couch next to a good friend of mine, and we had both done a WHOLE BUNCH of it. After about 20 minutes of trying, we were able to communicate to one another that, indeed, THIS must be what it feels like to be retarded. Haven't done it in a LONG time, but I remember it as not a terrible experience. Though I could see why one wouldn't want to do it after seeing other people under it's influence... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stapes Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 I think the point of using K instead of morphine is that it is LESS debilitating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexis Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 i thought that once you were wounded you got to go home? now they just drug you up and send you back out? go army! let's replace the need for a draft with sending what we have back out to the battlefields till they drop. sounds like a grrrrreat idea! where do i sign up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple foot Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 props to the people who experiment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secondtube Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 Ketamine is an anaesthetic that is available only to physicians and is "scheduled" in several states. Since anaesthetizing levels of Ketamine "knock you out", the dose required to have an experience is 6 to 10 times smaller than what is given by veterinarians and physicians. "Ketamine is a prescription only medicine and so is not covered by the Misuse of Drugs Act. This means that possession of ketamine is not a criminal offence. However, under the Medicines Act, unauthorised supply is illegal." So its not illegal to have on ya??? Wow....learn something new everyday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 I've known several people who've gone in with charges for posession of K. Let's stop the insanity people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tatterdemalion Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 Quote: Ketamine is an anaesthetic that is available only to physicians and is "scheduled" in several states. Since anaesthetizing levels of Ketamine "knock you out", the dose required to have an experience is 6 to 10 times smaller than what is given by veterinarians and physicians. "Ketamine is a prescription only medicine and so is not covered by the Misuse of Drugs Act. This means that possession of ketamine is not a criminal offence. However, under the Medicines Act, unauthorised supply is illegal." So its not illegal to have on ya??? Wow....learn something new everyday. not illegal if you have a prescription for it. i'm a pharmacist, and i've never seen a prescription written for it in an outpatient setting. in the hospital, sure. it has its place in anesthesia, although not very often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 Hey tatterdemalion want to be friends? I've never had my own pharmacy before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elemeno Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 i won the pharmacist award in 95 at the university of windsor. funny thing is i wasnt even a med-student. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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