trey's new cd....wish to discuss?

[jon.]

well what do you think?

[c-towns]

I'm listening right now, 4 songs in and its pretty boring so far.

[Jaimoe]

I'm looking forward to hearing Trey's new album for the first time and then trashing it in a CD review.

[jon.]

i think it will grow on me

bit lame in parts

pretty rocking in others

not sure if i like the strings

need about 5 more listens before i can call it.

[Jakis]

Interesting, preparing to trash it before even listening to it. Looking forward to reading the review.

[c-towns]

Goodbye head starts off cool, then goes into phish goes to the orchestra.

[mister slippery]

havent heard it yet, but really looking forward to it.

jon, you selling this downstairs? might drop in wed and pick it up.

dave

[c-towns]

meh. can't even see it growing on me.

[dimafleck: the living legend.]

trey is a pathetic, talentless hack that has achieved nothing.

[bouche]

Bar 17 just doesn't have anything for me. But that bonus 18 steps is more my style.

[balogna pogna]

Bar 17 just doesn't have anything for me. But that bonus 18 steps is more my style.

Yeah, there are one or two tracks on 18 Steps that surpass the actual album altogether. I wouldn't listen to either of the albums too much anyway.

[scottieking]

I stand by what I wrote on the 6th

I have this friend. He's a first class top rate harmonica player. Then, inexplicably, he decided he was going to focus on two things, songwriting/singing. While he is a decent songwriter, he lacks the natural talent and brillance that he used to bring to the harp (he doesn't even play anymore)

Trey Anatasio seems to suffer from the same ailment. And while I would never, ever, begrudge anyone their happiness, it always amazes me when they fail to see that the path they pursuing is clearly one that pales in comparison to their earlier genius.

The album has some nice guitar playing, but overall suffers from fairly weak songwriting. The lyrics fail to inspire, the vocal presentation varies from soft to downright weak and the compositions, while ultimately being more complex than Shine's drivel, still lack any real hook. Some like Dragonfly have even lost any momentum that they gain live by a slowing of the tempo and lack of "jam" development.

It's tough being an aging rocker, let alone an aging solo rocker. On a Trey solo scale, with first album scoring an 8, Shine scoring a 2, the most I can give this one is 5, and unfortunately, that's mostly due to the inclusion of Bennevento, Russo, Gordon and others.

Serves me right for listening to Deer Creek 2003 right before this came out I guess.......

And on 18 Steps

It's official.

I like 18 Steps more than I like Bar 17.

I don't get it. How is the bonus disc the better album? Is it ike an in-joke?

The playing is better, the production is more sparse and less cluttered.

Warning: Trey's singing on the first track is enough to push stop.

Push through. Track 2 and 3 are quite enjoyable. I've always liked Discern and this version is outstanding.

Warning 2: Still contains unnecesary horns and strings throughout.

The last two tracks are really, really nice acoustic tunes.

Baffling....6.5 for Step 18.

That being reinerated, I've listened to both 3 times each and then focused on the Clifford Ball SBD's I just got.