loco Posted November 24, 2006 Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 To keep old wounds open is pure drama, to try and heal them is worthy of applause. If you cannot forgive someone and keep the wound open through conversation, thought, emotion, lack of connection, you are creating drama. Why do some wish to keep old wounds open and fresh, does it give them a false sense of power? Are they lacking something deep in their own lives? What are your thoughts of this Jambands.ca? Your ideas will go towards a very useful and insightful book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Boy 2.0 Posted November 24, 2006 Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 crazytalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loco Posted November 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 Possibly looking for deeper meaning and substance connected to a more profound existence is 'crazy talk', but I have viewed this site for some time and have noticed a huge amount of empathy, concern, amongst other conscious emotions and thought this would be a place for deeper discussion. Possibly my judgment was wrong, but I do feel this board is a good place of insight. I am curious as to your insights of the emotion we call forgiveness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcO Posted November 24, 2006 Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 it depends on what is being forgiven. \simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phishtaper Posted November 24, 2006 Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 oh ok ... you voted Conservative, loco? ok, we forgive you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booche Posted November 24, 2006 Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fista Posted November 24, 2006 Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 it depends on what is being forgiven. \simple as that.That's very true. Some things are unforgivable.I will forgive most people for many things, but if I am burned too many times I just plain give up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phorbesie Posted November 24, 2006 Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 if someone hurts you...and you don't forgive them (after awhile i mean, eventually) i think it makes you feel that you retain power over them in a way. withholding forgiveness is like you have the upper hand or something, you are in control in the relationship. when really you are not in control at all, you just want to feel like you have some control. you don't realize that this is the case, but i think deep down that is probably what is going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loco Posted November 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 I love the sense of humor that accompanies this site, great feelings! Some would suggest that to hold onto emotions and not forgive another causes a deeper seeded issue of personal resentment. Whatever we hold onto, we become. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loco Posted November 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 Interesting comment KatLady. I am curious though, when we 'give up' and still hold onto resentment, aren't we giving the other power over us by not seeking the 'higher' emotion called forgiveness? I do find most individuals feel the same way you do though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcO Posted November 24, 2006 Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 It just depends on your sense of self-respect, sometimes. Sentimentality can be overvalued, sometimes it's best to just move forward and not look back. Whether that's an ego trip or power play, I'm not so sure. Partially so, but then so is being an emotional leech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loco Posted November 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 phorbesie. I would like to have a personal conversation with you, but I cannot figure out how to do this as I am new. I believe if you send me something I can reply? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanada Kev Posted November 24, 2006 Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 What is this "useful and insightful" book you are writing? I'd be curious to know what any of our thoughts and ideas may be published in.Later . . .Kanada Kev =8)np: "Everybody Knows This is Nowhere" Neil Young Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booche Posted November 24, 2006 Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 Phorbsie, dont give up your intellectual property! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Boy 2.0 Posted November 24, 2006 Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 something fishy is afoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loco Posted November 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 I am researching the higher sentient emotions of Forgiveness and how it is related to our sense of self worth. A good friend of mine, a 'deadhead', referred me to this site as well as a few others to what he called "gain insight into the fabric of humanity through those who truly care". I can discuss more of the book later on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MK Posted November 24, 2006 Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 Cheesehead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted November 24, 2006 Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 Forgiveness is overrated and I blame Oprah for this phenomenon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fista Posted November 24, 2006 Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 Interesting comment KatLady. I am curious though, when we 'give up' and still hold onto resentment, aren't we giving the other power over us by not seeking the 'higher' emotion called forgiveness? I do find most individuals feel the same way you do though.Are you talking about Jebus?? Cause I don't jive that way man. Seriously though, I find it harder to forgive people who knowingly hurt you or cause you troubles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Boy 2.0 Posted November 24, 2006 Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 Han Solo: Damn fool, I knew you were going to say that. Obi-Wan: Who's the more foolish: The fool, or the fool who follows him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradm Posted November 24, 2006 Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 something fishy is afootThat's probably me. I need to change my socks. I apologize. Do you forgive me?Aloha,Brad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Boy 2.0 Posted November 24, 2006 Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 That's probably me. I need to change my socks. I apologize. Do you forgive me?Aloha,Bradwhat's in it for me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loco Posted November 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 Not a problem. It appears as though this group is a half and half group. I don't wish to steal any philosophies from anyone, just a simple discussion and ideas to hear the voices of those dubbed to be concerned about the true value of humanity. If this appears as a threat, then I thank you all for the comments you have made thus far and will move on my way.thank you allCaroline Loco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phishtaper Posted November 24, 2006 Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 Forgiveness is overrated and I blame Oprah for this phenomenon.HEY!!! That's unforgivable!! ok, loco, if you wish to troll for things for your book, i think it's only fair that you identify yourself and tell us more about this book. what other electronic communities are you researching? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Boy 2.0 Posted November 24, 2006 Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 i think the toys have been thrown out of the pram already... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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