Guest Low Roller Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 In hockey hell Sean Avery gets you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booche Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 ..........while wearing a pair of my brother's skates....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwa. Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 HA! That pink skate is akin to Hux in "the vest." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booche Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 Getting back to this because I meant ot yesterday but was pulled aside and forgot:Apparently when NHL VP of hockey operations "gathered all the facts" before his decision, he omitted asking MaxPac for his version of events.What a joke!! Where in the fuck do you come up with this reactionary bullshit? Do you even know what you are implying?From what I understand, it's atypical for the NHL to speak with the victim in this type of situation. And even if they did, what would MaxPac say?"I dont recall the play."Oooooh. Groundbreaking stuff Roller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal Johnson Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 I've been avoiding this debate for a few days now because I've had a shitload of work to do, and I had already spent way too much time in that other thread. But, Im ready to have at her again! Sorry Hab fans, in advance...So, my two cents:Chara should have got at least a "token" game as I 've heard others call it, if only to fortify the NHL's position on head shots -- accidental or not. Just to say "look, its a fast game, but be careful out there"As for the talk of criminal charges I highly doubt it would even make it to court. Im taking a sport and law class right now and we've done nothing but breif legal cases involving violence in hockey. Let me tell you, you gotta basically stop what your doing, turn around, chase the guy down the rink and beat him with your stick to be found guilty of assualt, or assault causing bodily harm (if you don't believe me I can email you a whole bunch of cases). The fact that intent in this case is so hard to prove, and that Chara has had a clean past, and that getting rubbed out along the boards is a normal part of the NHL game (I've learned this distinction is important) makes it hard for me to see any other types of disciplinary actions taken. In most cases of civil and criminal law in hockey, the judgement goes to the defendant if the injury is a result of a normal hockey play, or what is expected (and understood as normal) in the course of the game. No where is it said that a player should not ride a guy into the boards near the time keepers bench. If there was an established stigma against this (doesn't even need to be a rule; and to the best of my knowledge there's not), the situation may be different, and the case against Chara may be stronger.Again, my two cents based on reading far too many cases of violence in hockey. Im assuming that the NHL looked at it in much the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Low Roller Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 Where in the fuck do you come up with this reactionary bullshit? Do you even know what you are implying?From what I understand, it's atypical for the NHL to speak with the victim in this type of situation. And even if they did, what would MaxPac say?"I dont recall the play."Oooooh. Groundbreaking stuff Roller. Quit fishing for a fight Booche. As reported by everyone from Bob McKenzie to Tony Marinaro yesterday, MaxPac was never asked for his version of events by the NHL before handing out their ruling. Chara said he didn't mean to do it and that Pacioretty "jumped into the boards", and the NHL acted according to that. MaxPac said in an interview with McKenzie the next day that he believes Chara actually DID intend to do it, locking him up up so that he couldn't avoid it, and the forearm to the face in that famous photo is pretty compelling evidence to that fact. Of course I'm biased, of course I'm unreasonably enraged by this decision, of course I want Chara to meet swift justice. I'm not going to hide that. He broke the kid's neck! Fuck anyone who thinks that Chara should not be suspended!I'm just beyond glad that Pacioretty is A- aliveB- able to walkC- at homeTotal fucking miracle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booche Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 As reported by everyone from Bob McKenzie to Tony Marinaro yesterday, MaxPac was never asked for his version of events by the NHL before handing out their ruling.So? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Low Roller Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 Thank God you never became a cop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c-towns Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 What difference would it have made if they interviewed the guy? Do you think he saw the intent in Chara's eyes from the face-off? If this incident didn't happen to a Montreal player we'd still be talking about how F1 drivers aren't athletes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booche Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 Thornton and Henrik weigh in.Thank God you never became a cop.If I was I would bust Tony Marinaro for being a fucking idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badams Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 Thornton and Henrik weigh in.Thank God you never became a cop.If I was I would bust Tony Marinaro for being a fucking idiot. Great article... Some big name players speaking up about the Chara hit and how the NHL has handled it, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal Johnson Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 ^^that article is interesting to me because it establishes that the players in the league are awrae of the stanchion. I also like what Sedin said about how if you dont suspend him, he'll never have a record. So simple, but so true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tissue Man Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 (edited) Thornton and Henrik weigh in.Thank God you never became a cop.I would bust a nut on Tony Marinaro for being a fucking rock star. Great article... Some big name players speaking up about the Chara hit and how the NHL has handled it' date='[/quote']wha??? i thought it was only montreal fans/media upset about this.. at least thats what the internets(present company excluded) and tsn tries to tell me. Edited March 11, 2011 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSloth Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 I thought the article was interesting but I absolutely disagree with Sedin that by not suspending him means his record is clean in a sense therefore he'll never get suspended. His record isn't clean now despite not getting suspended, this incident has, at the very least, been noted and Chara's leash is shortened. I just don't agree with his logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tissue Man Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 (edited) I thought the article was interesting but I absolutely disagree with Sedin that by not suspending him means his record is clean in a sense therefore he'll never get suspended. His record isn't clean now despite not getting suspended, this incident has, at the very least, been noted and Chara's leash is shortened. I just don't agree with his logic.i believe he already had a suspension rescinded for instigating a fight after the final whistle last year.. record clean baby. Edited March 11, 2011 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSloth Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 No, I'm agreeing that his record is clean what I'm saying is if Chara cleans someones clock his record isn't truly spotless, what he did will come into play. Sedin was implying it wouldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tissue Man Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 No, I'm agreeing that his record is clean what I'm saying is if Chara cleans someones clock his record isn't truly spotless, what he did will come into play. Sedin was implying it wouldn't.and im saying he already went through a process where a suspension was rescinded so assuming you are correct this would have come into play for this issue.. which it didnt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSloth Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 But it was for instigating a fight not taking someones head off. Jesus, is there a single Hab fan that can maintain even the slightest bit of perspective? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tissue Man Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 (edited) But it was for instigating a fight not taking someones head off. Jesus is there a single Hab fan that can maintain even the slightest bit of perspective. it doesnt matter what its for. its still a previous encounter with league officials. the same thing chara got off for(instigating a fight when it should be an automatic 1 game) has been used for establishing history as a "dirty player" who has then been up before the leauge for something completely different. my perspective is fine. Edited March 11, 2011 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSloth Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 You wouldn't know if it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tissue Man Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 You wouldn't know if it was.you wouldn't! :surprise: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSloth Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 Damn you, no you wouldn't! Times infinity!That's all I got, I'm on empty, I've got to get some work done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Low Roller Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 But it was for instigating a fight not taking someones head off. Jesus is there a single Hab fan that can maintain even the slightest bit of perspective. I got your fucking perspective right here Sloth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBigTime Posted March 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 Chara's sister has a huge saggy rack... this helps, but not enough...she must be like 6'3 or something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peipunk Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 That's some fine work right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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